The longsword is probably too heavy for me to lift swing around. Those side sword handles are real pretty.
I used to train with a katana. That´s over 30 years ago though. A katana is a two handed sword, but not too heavy so it´s possible to wield two of them.
Quote from: Ronald Schröder on November 19, 2017, 11:36:18 AMI used to train with a katana. That´s over 30 years ago though. A katana is a two handed sword, but not too heavy so it´s possible to wield two of them.Katana should roughly weigh about the same as a Longsword, however the katana is a bit shorter and has the center of balance a bit more foreward.The longsword can be wielded one handed too (often with a buckler / dagger or shield), but you loose a lot speed/accuracy. Also the power to penetrate armor.Here from a fencing manual (Talhoffer’s 1459 treatise), longsword with a judicary shield. Notice how the left guy has the pointer over the cross-guard? That increases control when using a one-handed sword. You can see the sidesword has a double cross-guard to protect the finger and later the rapier got a ring for that.(Image removed from quote.)And here you can see it in action:Its rather clumsy
Quote from: Etherealicer on November 19, 2017, 11:49:45 AMQuote from: Ronald Schröder on November 19, 2017, 11:36:18 AMI used to train with a katana. That´s over 30 years ago though. A katana is a two handed sword, but not too heavy so it´s possible to wield two of them.Katana should roughly weigh about the same as a Longsword, however the katana is a bit shorter and has the center of balance a bit more foreward.The longsword can be wielded one handed too (often with a buckler / dagger or shield), but you loose a lot speed/accuracy. Also the power to penetrate armor.Here from a fencing manual (Talhoffer’s 1459 treatise), longsword with a judicary shield. Notice how the left guy has the pointer over the cross-guard? That increases control when using a one-handed sword. You can see the sidesword has a double cross-guard to protect the finger and later the rapier got a ring for that.(Image removed from quote.)And here you can see it in action:Its rather clumsy It kind of looks like they are using Cellos as shields.
Those look cool. I once wanted to learn how to use them and join a club...but there weren't any anywhere near where I lived. That didn't stop me from collecting swords however. Because of this, I never did get the training blades for my Hanwei Tinker swords.Here is an old link of some of my swords. I have a few more added since then that aren't listed.https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,33487.msg544528.html#msg544528
Thanks for the excellent info. I went with the Tinker Pierce designs because I like how the blades swapped out. I ordered the sharp ones with the idea of maybe upgrading to a training blade...but alas...no clubs anywhere near my abode.
Quote from: Etherealicer on November 19, 2017, 11:49:45 AMQuote from: Ronald Schröder on November 19, 2017, 11:36:18 AMI used to train with a katana. That´s over 30 years ago though. A katana is a two handed sword, but not too heavy so it´s possible to wield two of them.Katana should roughly weigh about the same as a Longsword, however the katana is a bit shorter and has the center of balance a bit more foreward.The longsword can be wielded one handed too (often with a buckler / dagger or shield), but you loose a lot speed/accuracy. Also the power to penetrate armor.Here from a fencing manual (Talhoffer’s 1459 treatise), longsword with a judicary shield. Notice how the left guy has the pointer over the cross-guard? That increases control when using a one-handed sword. You can see the sidesword has a double cross-guard to protect the finger and later the rapier got a ring for that.(Image removed from quote.)And here you can see it in action:Its rather clumsy Those are two of my old sparing buddies; Paul Macdonald and Bob Brooks. Paul and I did a lot of work on these when he first made some nearly twenty years ago. There is a decent chance we were the first two to use them in around 500 years...because they are indeed silly. Fun though.
Quote from: Gareth on December 05, 2017, 01:52:36 PMQuote from: Etherealicer on November 19, 2017, 11:49:45 AMQuote from: Ronald Schröder on November 19, 2017, 11:36:18 AMI used to train with a katana. That´s over 30 years ago though. A katana is a two handed sword, but not too heavy so it´s possible to wield two of them.Katana should roughly weigh about the same as a Longsword, however the katana is a bit shorter and has the center of balance a bit more foreward.The longsword can be wielded one handed too (often with a buckler / dagger or shield), but you loose a lot speed/accuracy. Also the power to penetrate armor.Here from a fencing manual (Talhoffer’s 1459 treatise), longsword with a judicary shield. Notice how the left guy has the pointer over the cross-guard? That increases control when using a one-handed sword. You can see the sidesword has a double cross-guard to protect the finger and later the rapier got a ring for that.(Image removed from quote.)And here you can see it in action:Its rather clumsy Those are two of my old sparing buddies; Paul Macdonald and Bob Brooks. Paul and I did a lot of work on these when he first made some nearly twenty years ago. There is a decent chance we were the first two to use them in around 500 years...because they are indeed silly. Fun though. That is all I can say... you still train/spar?
No, not any more. I'd gotten very involved in teaching and running my old club and kind of burnt myself out a bit. About 7 years ago I took a step back and went on a break and never quite felt the need to do that to myself again. One house move later and even if I wanted to there's no clubs anywhere nearby. I've still got my kit though and I'm still friends with a load of people who are very much involved.
Quote from: Gareth on December 05, 2017, 05:33:41 PMNo, not any more. I'd gotten very involved in teaching and running my old club and kind of burnt myself out a bit. About 7 years ago I took a step back and went on a break and never quite felt the need to do that to myself again. One house move later and even if I wanted to there's no clubs anywhere nearby. I've still got my kit though and I'm still friends with a load of people who are very much involved. Now I feel like a newb We started about 4 years ago (stiff blade and medieval gear/helmet), then had a small incident. One got a tine cut on the upper lip , so we decided we either stop or get better gear. So, we founded a club and got better gear. Fortunately for us, it shortly after also got recognized as sport by the Swiss government.
Nice swords. How hard is HEMA to pick up for a complete novice in general?
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on November 19, 2017, 11:54:42 AMQuote from: Etherealicer on November 19, 2017, 11:49:45 AMQuote from: Ronald Schröder on November 19, 2017, 11:36:18 AMI used to train with a katana. That´s over 30 years ago though. A katana is a two handed sword, but not too heavy so it´s possible to wield two of them.Katana should roughly weigh about the same as a Longsword, however the katana is a bit shorter and has the center of balance a bit more foreward.The longsword can be wielded one handed too (often with a buckler / dagger or shield), but you loose a lot speed/accuracy. Also the power to penetrate armor.Here from a fencing manual (Talhoffer’s 1459 treatise), longsword with a judicary shield. Notice how the left guy has the pointer over the cross-guard? That increases control when using a one-handed sword. You can see the sidesword has a double cross-guard to protect the finger and later the rapier got a ring for that.(Image removed from quote.)And here you can see it in action:Its rather clumsy It kind of looks like they are using Cellos as shields. makes me wanna play cello These shields are often used two handed, like a cello. Well, slightly different grip...
The other thing I would like to try is paramotoring. But that is even more expensive.
Quote from: lister on December 06, 2017, 01:46:12 PMThe other thing I would like to try is paramotoring. But that is even more expensive.AKA Powered para-glider..... That was my absolute obsession for a few years from about 1997. If I could afford the machine, I would need to win a lotto and quit my job to be able to do the training and licensing.......or take 6 years to get that done.The dream died, but if I win that lotto it would flare up quickly.I can think of few more magical ways to see unreachable parts of my country
Quote from: Gerhard Gerber on December 06, 2017, 02:00:26 PMQuote from: lister on December 06, 2017, 01:46:12 PMThe other thing I would like to try is paramotoring. But that is even more expensive.AKA Powered para-glider..... That was my absolute obsession for a few years from about 1997. If I could afford the machine, I would need to win a lotto and quit my job to be able to do the training and licensing.......or take 6 years to get that done.The dream died, but if I win that lotto it would flare up quickly.I can think of few more magical ways to see unreachable parts of my country Well it is expensive, but it is the cheapest form of powered flying. I think that you get top of the line equipment for 15k €. If you look around and buy used you can get by with much less. But then you must know what you are buying or have someone that does. If I was serious enough I probably could do it in several years. Or at least I could go through training and licensing as I often find that I enjoy that part more than the actual activity...
From what I read, I believe these shields were used alone. they had spikes to act has stabbing weapons and the curves were used to "grab" the opponent. I've seen some books and videos were the shields are not only used for defense but also to attack (and very effectivelly).
Quote from: styx on December 06, 2017, 10:37:20 AMNice swords. How hard is HEMA to pick up for a complete novice in general?No harder than any other Martial Art, assuming you have a good instructor running a club. The alternative is getting a group of friends together and start reading some source material. It's definitely good fun.
I always liked HEMA. But the trouble is the only club I know of is on the other side of the country. Granted, the country in question is no more than 300 km across as the crow flies (if that), but I am not the most mobile of creatures. Also, in addition to me going to gym 3 times a week I doubt I could do any decent amount of practice. Especially as it seems to me that these pointy sharp objects require quite a lot of skill to handle. The other thing I would like to try is paramotoring. But that is even more expensive.
Quote from: lister on December 06, 2017, 01:46:12 PMI always liked HEMA. But the trouble is the only club I know of is on the other side of the country. Granted, the country in question is no more than 300 km across as the crow flies (if that), but I am not the most mobile of creatures. Also, in addition to me going to gym 3 times a week I doubt I could do any decent amount of practice. Especially as it seems to me that these pointy sharp objects require quite a lot of skill to handle. The other thing I would like to try is paramotoring. But that is even more expensive.We meet on the border in full plate armour, have our national coat of arms on the shields and just watch as the mayhem ensues. Oh and we start challenging each other to all sorts of contests (jousting, different sword duels, archery, pin the tail on the donkey....) over something idiotic. We wouldn't learn anything but it would be funny