Quote from: styx on January 22, 2018, 04:23:57 PMwell since it hit the fan perhaps it would be appropriate to hear Lynn's thoughts of e-tools, trowels, spades and other digging utensils in these bobsDid someone mention trowels in bobs? Here's mine though it's not a bob cause I don't know anyone called Bob (Image removed from quote.)
well since it hit the fan perhaps it would be appropriate to hear Lynn's thoughts of e-tools, trowels, spades and other digging utensils in these bobs
I honestly don't care for the cold steel special forces shovel because it doesn't fold. I have a combo E-tool that folds so you can use the shovel like a pick which makes for easier digging and it has a spike on the other side for when you hit rocks or really compacted soil. I have used it to dig fire pits for over 20 years. It is a bit heavy on a hike, but then it gets left in camp while we explore with light weight day packs. If I had to rely on a pocket size trowel to dig any holes I'd be there all day.
I think I would reach for a big stick before a knife.
Quote from: Syncop8r on October 28, 2018, 10:47:14 AMI think I would reach for a big stick before a knife.Me too, but then again, I don’t know how to use a knife.
Quote from: Don Pablo on October 28, 2018, 11:03:41 AMQuote from: Syncop8r on October 28, 2018, 10:47:14 AMI think I would reach for a big stick before a knife.Me too, but then again, I don’t know how to use a knife.A stick being waved around might help scare an animal away or be used to keep it at bay as well as for whacking it. I doubt animals are scared of knives.
Most of the kits are build around the boys dream of beeing lost in the wood. How many disasters are like that?
Going rough camping and calling it survival training, is like calling yourself a surgeon because you can clip your own toenails.
Most of the kits are build around the boys dream of beeing lost in the wood. How many disasters are like that? I would estimate that more emergencies happen with some ressources or equipment around you rather than beeing in the woods/desert/...
Quote from: Shuya on October 28, 2018, 09:20:31 AMMost of the kits are build around the boys dream of beeing lost in the wood. How many disasters are like that? I would estimate that more emergencies happen with some ressources or equipment around you rather than beeing in the woods/desert/...I agree a BOB/Survival Kit is like the EDC, very individual and strongly depending on where you are, what you plan on doing and what your abilities are.I would like to add that building a shelter/camp is way overrated and could kill you, especially if water is scarce. If you read this story on knife news: Man Survives Four Days Lost in the Mountains with Buck 110, you will realize that his "survival skills" almost killed the man. Had he not lost his lighter he would probably have ended up so dehydrated that he could not save himself anymore.Preparing does not just mean "bring as much gear as possible", but think about exit strategy / inform someone where you are going, and when you will be back etc.
Quote from: Etherealicer on October 29, 2018, 11:28:07 AMQuote from: Shuya on October 28, 2018, 09:20:31 AMMost of the kits are build around the boys dream of beeing lost in the wood. How many disasters are like that? I would estimate that more emergencies happen with some ressources or equipment around you rather than beeing in the woods/desert/...I agree a BOB/Survival Kit is like the EDC, very individual and strongly depending on where you are, what you plan on doing and what your abilities are.I would like to add that building a shelter/camp is way overrated and could kill you, especially if water is scarce. If you read this story on knife news: Man Survives Four Days Lost in the Mountains with Buck 110, you will realize that his "survival skills" almost killed the man. Had he not lost his lighter he would probably have ended up so dehydrated that he could not save himself anymore.Preparing does not just mean "bring as much gear as possible", but think about exit strategy / inform someone where you are going, and when you will be back etc.So this man (Hutter) was out hiking without water, flashlight or map/compass (or knowledge) of local area and did not know where he was going when he "stepped off the path for a moment, and then couldn’t find it again.". Then he proceeded to walk in an unknown direction for 2 hours? It wasn't that a Buck 110 saved his life or losing a lighter saved his life...IT WAS BLIND LUCK THAT HIS STUPIDITY DID NOT KILL HIM!
When you're walking in the forrest and end up standing in between a wild boar and it's child, you won't have time to search for a big stick.
Don't overturn this whole topic from extreme BOBs to "even a folding knife is never needed".
Everyone who survives something like that needs luck.He did know what to eat, how to build camp. I'm not going to say he's an expert. But luck is always needed.If you're a true survival expert out there on your own, but you break a leg... it might kill you.
Could my post be taken out of context even further?
Your application with the Aus board of tourism has been denied, thank you.
Just stating facts.We have a beautiful country, but some really nasty and angry animals.We have this beautiful spider called a whistling tarantula.My wife had one as a pet for a while, until the damn heater in the terrarium carked it and the spider died in winter.The spider was what is known a s a new world spider.Old world spiders can be handled and are generally reasonably docile.New world spiders are generally not handled because they are seriously aggressive, very fast and even the the ones considered non poisonous ones have enough poison to make you quite ill.Anyhoo, the whistling tarantula is a new world spider and feeding it was quite the Adrenalin rush .Just opening the cage brought it to attention.Drop the cockroach (woodbug) into the cage and it shot out of its hole, straight at the roach, the speed and aggression gave you a start every single time.It wont kill you if it bites, you just throw up and feel intense pain for 24 to 48 hours.Its about 10 cm across, (about 4 inches) but has been known to grow up to 15 cm (6 inches)The Sydney funnel web is much nastier.It goes hunting for a female, and nothing gets in its wayAnything that does gets walked over or bitten.Dogs and cats are imune, humans are not and its very very toxic.But my little favorite is the Blue Ringed Octopus.Tiny thing, about 25 to 40 cm in size, lives around rocky shoreline where people fish and kids play.Its quite reclusive, and requires a bit to get it out of its hole.And when you do it gets all these pretty iridescent blue circles all over its bodyTHIS MEANS ITS REALLY REALY ANGRY.They people say, Oh How pretty and put it on their arms.It bites themThe toxin stops the heart, the lungs and you die, usually in about 2-3 minutes, unless CPR is administered until you get to hospital.Yet very few Aussies die from all the toxic, aggressive and nasty animals we have.Because in general, we leave the nasty things alone.We don't play with themWe don't annoy them and we don't hunt them.
I don’t want one of those spiders in my bug-out-bag.