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On Fire in Emergencies 1526

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Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #60 on: January 07, 2019, 06:29:40 PM »
I've been thinking this through recently. Firstly it's usually hot here. Very hot. No need for fires. That said I had a wake up call recently due to trying to light a fire in heavy wind and driving rain, a month or so ago. My mini Bic didn't stand a chance. My Zippo worked for 20 seconds until it was too wet for my finger to get any purchase on the wheel to strike. After some wet minutes of frustration I kicked myself, took out my UCO Stormproof matches and you know what? They were storm proof. Period. Worked perfectly. They burn down fast in the wind but they just worked. As a result the fire kit in my bag is out. No more waxed jute, firesteels and slivers of fatwood. Instead my Zippo for when the weather is ok (filled up before leaving on a trip) and a whole bunch of Stormproof matches for when it's too tough even for the Zippo. I've usually got a mini bic around, one in every coat, bag, etc but it's no longer considered an emergency solution.

"It is better to lose health like a spendthrift than to waste it like a miser." - Robert Louis Stevenson
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 16,786
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #61 on: January 07, 2019, 07:09:39 PM »
Storm proof matches are nice.  I've got some as well.  Still gonna keep my lighters with me however my Zippo would never be a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd choice. 

Esse Quam Videri
Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 60,609 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #62 on: January 07, 2019, 10:29:32 PM »
I have one of those arcing lighters on order.  I won't be leaving my matches at home just yet, but I was curious about them.

Def

Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 16,786
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #63 on: January 07, 2019, 11:33:12 PM »
I have a USB lighter.  No flame but it sure does hold a charge for a while. 

Esse Quam Videri
Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 60,609 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2019, 01:56:45 AM »
I have a USB lighter.  No flame but it sure does hold a charge for a while.

I have one too. It uses a tiny coil like the one on an electric stove.  It's handy but I hate that it needs to contact things to light them.  Trying to light a tinder with it can be problematic.

The arcing lighter arrived today and I will post pics of it in the next little while.  It looks pretty neat and has a small blue LED on it when lit in case you can't see the two bolts of purple lightning or hear the sizzle of a semi controlled short circuit.

So far it seems pretty freaking cool....  let's see how long it works before I break it.... :facepalm:

Def

Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 60,609 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2019, 11:04:45 PM »
I just posted my initial thoughts on the arc lighter here in case anyone is interested:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,80272.0.html

Def

OCD Squad Leader Admin Team Zombie Apprentice Posts: 11,466
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2019, 01:11:39 PM »
I just posted my initial thoughts on the arc lighter here in case anyone is interested:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,80272.0.html

Def
:tu:

Emergency Kit: Ovo Sport, chocolate, cheese, crispbread and a coin
Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 60,609 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2019, 03:20:30 PM »
For the record, today is one of those days where it is plus one degree Celcius, with heavy wind and pissing down rain, hail and snow. I would love to see Dave Canterbury survive on a day like today.

Def

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Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2019, 04:04:54 PM »
 :rofl:
Global Moderator Zombie Apprentice Posts: 16,786
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2019, 05:33:48 PM »
The true survivalist, those working in such conditions day after day, year after year.   :salute:

Esse Quam Videri
Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 60,609 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2019, 09:01:42 PM »
I was outside for about an hour when the rain started to seep through my rain gear.  I was completely soaked inside and out by the time we were done.

Even my awesome waterproof winter boots, rated to -40C were no match for the water and cold today.  Unfortunately my boot dryer is in Ottawa, so they will be wet for days now.   :facepalm:

Def

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Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #71 on: January 09, 2019, 09:26:12 PM »
Cold is cold but to know you will out again and again cold and wet  :salute:.  Its not like you can build a fire or shelter and bunker down. 

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Global Moderator Point Of No Return Posts: 34,417
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #72 on: January 10, 2019, 01:07:37 AM »
I was outside for about an hour when the rain started to seep through my rain gear.  I was completely soaked inside and out by the time we were done.

Even my awesome waterproof winter boots, rated to -40C were no match for the water and cold today.  Unfortunately my boot dryer is in Ottawa, so they will be wet for days now.   :facepalm:

Def

Should have had yer wellies  :D


« Last Edit: January 10, 2019, 01:09:08 AM by SteveC »
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Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #73 on: January 10, 2019, 07:59:39 AM »
Lessons learned on  a dayhike trial (1°C, spray rain, heavy rain and snow the last 4 days, everything dripping wet, wind) :

A firesteel is a neat piece of equipment, playing with it is fun (have one in my camping kit for my camping stove, those piezos have failed me before).
But if you really need a fire, in bad situations and non optimal conditions, they suck. Really.
Imagine beeing numb and stiff from the cold, everything is wet and you need to get proper, dry and flimsy tinder and scrape that small piece of metal?  :twak:

My sollution for if I ever need a firekit: get the biggest, longest burning stormproof matches you can find and add one or two solid fuel tablets.
Most likely these: https://www.ucogear.com/uco-stormproof-matches-25-pack-mt--sm1--uco
You should get a first fire almost in every situation ASAP. And that first fire is the most important. You can add a firesteel for longterm fantasies.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2019, 08:04:25 AM by Shuya »
Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 60,609 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #74 on: January 10, 2019, 11:53:21 AM »
After the driving rain and snow the temperature went from +3 last night to -8 this morning.

I'd hate to be a giant barefoot hippie caught in the woods yesterday.   :ahhh

Def

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Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #75 on: January 13, 2019, 06:47:52 PM »
I've been out on a motorcycle before, quite a ways from home when a warm day turned into a chilly, drenching downpour and I had no rain gear. After awhile I became hypothermic from riding while completely soaked. Riding 100 miles back home with hypothermia is not an option. It's far better to stop at a likely spot and warm up and dry out with a fire.

I can see the same thing happening while out on the river in a small boat.
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Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #76 on: January 24, 2019, 12:02:47 AM »
Fortunately, I haven't been in a make-fire-or-die situation.  I can think of a number of potential uses for it, though, including keeping warm, drying wet clothes, cooking, boiling water for drinking, sterilizing instruments for medical purposes, signaling, etc.
Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 60,609 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: On Fire in Emergencies
« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2019, 06:39:17 PM »


 

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