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84mm 'Pioneer'? 161

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,059 Any tool is better than nothing. Some not by much
84mm 'Pioneer'?
« on: January 13, 2018, 07:41:08 AM »
I'm looking at a picture of a SAK.

It's next to a 91mm model, so I know it's 84mm. It's got red Alox scales with the old style cross on it, and old style grind on the can opener (which is a Vic style opener, hence knowing it's an 84).

It's 2 layers. Large blade, caplifter/flathead and can opener/small flathead... and an awl. The kind in the same layer as the main blade. Like on the 93mm frame.

No keyring.

What IS it? I'm stumped. It's like a mini Pioneer. Is it just an unusual Cadet variant? I also see in the SAKwiki that some Cadet II models came with no keyring but don't see any mention of awl replacing nail file/second blade.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2018, 07:43:29 AM by Lynn LeFey »


Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,037 Ditchfinder General
Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2018, 07:48:16 AM »
Why aren't we looking at a picture too? :pok: :worthless:

Sounds like a mod to me - AFAIK there has never been a Cadet with an awl.
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,059 Any tool is better than nothing. Some not by much
Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2018, 07:55:31 AM »
Mmm...

Looking at more pics, and it might have been a weird distortion of the 91mm having multiple layers LOOKING longer than a 93mm. But it's weird.

It's an ebay listing.
Hero Member Posts: 980
Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2018, 08:09:28 AM »

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,059 Any tool is better than nothing. Some not by much
Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
« Reply #4 on: January 13, 2018, 08:15:00 AM »

It's an ebay listing.
Link it ? :-)

No. NOOOoooo! You shall not steal my precious treasure! NNNnnnnnoooooo!

Ok...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/...ksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649

I think it's just an optical illusion in the first picture.
« Last Edit: January 13, 2018, 08:16:10 AM by Lynn LeFey »
Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,037 Ditchfinder General
Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2018, 08:15:45 AM »
That's 93mm. :tu:

You can tell by the texture on the scales (coarser than the 84mm) and the placement of the middle rivet (central, rather than closer to the blade pivot).
« Last Edit: January 13, 2018, 08:16:49 AM by hiraethus »
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 7,059 Any tool is better than nothing. Some not by much
Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2018, 08:16:55 AM »
Yeah, optical illusion in the first pic.
Jr. Member Posts: 52
Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2018, 08:30:02 AM »
I reckon a lot of people would like an 84mm Pioneer, though. Be a great alternative or companion to the Cadet. :)
Hero Member Posts: 980
Re: 84mm 'Pioneer'?
« Reply #8 on: January 13, 2018, 09:57:52 AM »
Yeah, optical illusion in the first pic.

Yep, first pic ils really weird with sak order:
The 91mm is thicker so its front scale is closer to us, AND the moneyclip is a lot smaller so the eye is waiting for a progressive decrease in size from the left to right
Hence that pretty neat illusion ;-)


 

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