A question to SAK owners...is this a genuine SAK?

tanker · **on:** November 08, 2008, 12:29:41 AM

I got this SAK as a gift some time ago after I lost mine but is just until recently that I pay atention to the logo. It is not exactly the Victorinox logo isn´t it? probably an older version? This tool looks/feels like it´s very well done, the knives, can and bottle opener etc, look exactly like those in my older SAK. Other difference that I find is the matte finish instead of the typical glossy red...is this a knock off? (a very good one in any case).

By the way, very nice forum you have running here

Benner · **Reply #1 on:** November 08, 2008, 12:36:00 AM

That looks like one of Victorinox's eco SAK's.

So yes, I'd say it was genuine.

donvito · **Reply #2 on:** November 08, 2008, 12:43:55 AM

Welcome to the forum.

Looks real. I have eco climber with the same scales. What other implements does it have?

duckman1975 · **Reply #3 on:** November 08, 2008, 12:44:27 AM

Welcome to the Forum! Looks like the real deal, most fake SAKs are not well made and you can spot them a mile away>

jzmtl · **Reply #4 on:** November 08, 2008, 12:44:41 AM

Yeah it's the nylon scale, I actually like it better because it's more scratch resistant.

Sea Monster · **Reply #5 on:** November 08, 2008, 01:20:51 AM

That's an Eco-SAK!

The Best Value for Money knives available!

I'd never heard of them until I joined this forum, but since getting one (Imported stuff costs tres $$$ in Oz) I can only recommend them to anyone.

Get one for yourself, get one for your girlfriend, and her poodle, and her old man, and then get another one for yourself, 'cause they're cheap and excellent!

With Eco-SAKs on the market, no one has any excuse whatsoever to buy a knock off.

stressmaster5000 · **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2008, 01:27:00 AM

Quote from: jzmtl on November 08, 2008, 12:44:41 AM

Yeah it's the nylon scale, I actually like it better because it's more scratch resistant.

I am with you on that. I like the nylon scales, and WHY is everyone calling them an "Eco" scale?

Most all of the 111mm knives are covered with nylon scales and I never hear about someone calling their 111mm Rescue tool or OHT with "Eco" scales! The only thing I have ever seen with "economy" on it is a few of the cheaper cost knives made and tang stamped with "Economy" on the back side tang stamp. OK {log off rant}

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2008, 01:36:49 AM

Welcome to the forum. That is indeed an eco model, and a genuine Victorinox. Over the years Victorinox has experimented with a number of ways to put out a more inexpensive model without skimping on quality, hence the name "Eco" which is short for economy. The nylon scales are a little cheaper to manufacture than the standard cellidor, and the tools aren't quite as polished as the regular line models.

It looks like a Spartan model to me, if that helps.

Def

tanker · **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2008, 03:48:46 AM

Thank you very much for your answers and the welcomes

I had no idea there were cheaper versions from victorinox. Actually I was more curious than worried, the implements always seemed very well made to me and now is good to know this material is more scratch resistant

I searched for Climber in Amazon and yes, I found the very same logo! http://www.amazon.com/Victorinox-Swiss-Climber-Pocket-Knife/dp/B0009KF4H0/ref=pd_rhf_f_i_cs_3 only that mine is more like the Spartan + saw.

Leatherman123 · **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2008, 04:18:54 AM

That's the Camper.

BIG-TARGET · **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2008, 04:51:55 AM

Quote from: Benner on November 08, 2008, 12:36:00 AM

That looks like one of Victorinox's eco SAK's.

So yes, I'd say it was genuine.

Definately Eco

Poncho65 · **Reply #11 on:** November 08, 2008, 05:15:08 AM

Welcome to the forum tanker

Styerman · **Reply #12 on:** November 08, 2008, 05:53:02 AM

Welcome ! I EDC an Eco Huntsman. I prefer the Nylon Scales , they're tuffer. In no way are they seconds.

Chris

Mike, Lord of the Spammers! · **Reply #13 on:** November 08, 2008, 07:27:25 AM

Welcome to the forum mate

And yep that looks like an Eco Camper to me too

Benner · **Reply #14 on:** November 08, 2008, 01:25:26 PM

Quote from: stressmaster5000 on November 08, 2008, 01:27:00 AM

Quote from: jzmtl on November 08, 2008, 12:44:41 AM
Yeah it's the nylon scale, I actually like it better because it's more scratch resistant.
I am with you on that. I like the nylon scales, and WHY is everyone calling them an "Eco" scale? Most all of the 111mm knives are covered with nylon scales and I never hear about someone calling their 111mm Rescue tool or OHT with "Eco" scales! The only thing I have ever seen with "economy" on it is a few of the cheaper cost knives made and tang stamped with "Economy" on the back side tang stamp. OK {log off rant}

Because that's what they are called.

tanker · **Reply #15 on:** November 08, 2008, 04:07:20 PM

More thankyous for the welcome

It seems like I´m going to visit more often this forum, there is one Vic Spirit and a Wave 25th anniversary on the way!!

so...Eco Camper it is

Tanker (proud owner of a Wave´98 and a Eco Camper)

donvito · **Reply #16 on:** November 08, 2008, 11:31:28 PM

The blade on my eco climber is not stamped "eco", and the polish looks same as on my regular vic's.

Zack · **Reply #17 on:** November 08, 2008, 11:32:26 PM

No eco markings on my lumberjack either. I rate it above most of cellidor models.

Benner · **Reply #18 on:** November 08, 2008, 11:34:55 PM

Quote from: donvito on November 08, 2008, 11:31:28 PM

The blade on my eco climber is not stamped "eco", and the polish looks same as on my regular vic's.

I don't think they are ever stamped Eco.

Neil · **Reply #19 on:** November 09, 2008, 01:52:36 AM

They used to be tang stamped economy many years ago but you won't come across that on any recent knives.

Neil

donvito · **Reply #20 on:** November 09, 2008, 01:56:42 AM

Thx for the tidbit NKB.

SteveRacer · **Reply #21 on:** November 09, 2008, 06:39:28 PM

Risking a wicked excoriation from the Confederacy of Helveticans, I have to admit I had not a single clue what "Cellidor" was until some precision googooling.

"Cellulose Acetate Propionate / Cellulose Acetate Butyrate" will now replace my "Oooo! Shiny! Red!" comments in polite company.

And to thinks of all thems teacher that talked how learning me good was unpossible!

-steve

NutSAK · **Reply #22 on:** November 09, 2008, 06:50:48 PM

I read somewhere (on SOSAK maybe?) that the liners of the economy models are not clear anodized, and they regular models are. I have no idea if this is true or not.

Grant Lamontagne · **Reply #23 on:** November 09, 2008, 09:26:28 PM

Actually, they have had many names over the years, only one of them being "Eco." Elinox and Econoline come to mind, so I guess nylon is more accurate, since some of the various economy versions had plastic scales (as opposed to the cellidor) and yet others were missing the toothpick and tweezers.

Def

stressmaster5000 · **Reply #24 on:** November 10, 2008, 09:08:01 PM

OK, here is an "Economy" tang stamped Vic. This is found on the backside of one of those "Special Sales" models with the "Hiker" name and inlay on the front produced back in the late 80's I think. There is a brochure page with all of the models on it somewhere I think. It is definitely Cellidor and the tools look the same as regular Vic's to me. Although this blade was poorly sharpened by someone. There are no inserts but there is a keyring. I think there were 3 different models like this one.