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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2400 on: October 24, 2015, 10:53:19 PM
 :nothingtoadd:   :D

Great blades and pix guys!!!  :cheers:
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2401 on: October 25, 2015, 01:01:21 AM
Quote from: SAKnight on October 24, 2015, 10:08:17 PM
Raistlin, you have the seal pup elite I want, satin plain edge :drool: I just, I had a CE tini already, and it was good, but because I've had one, re-getting one loses priority.

I was hesitant to buy it at first because of SOG's reputation--they catch a lot of flak for the mall ninja like new stuff they seem to be coming out with.  But it's a heck of a knife, especially at it's <$50 price (Amazon). Going hiking and want to keep the weight down as much as possible? This is a lot of knife for the weight, and I think it has a very good balance to it. No wonder it's kind of a classic now.

I should probably be quiet. Probably preaching to the choir  :cheers:
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2402 on: October 25, 2015, 02:34:43 AM
R even the choir needs a little preachin least they get off key!    :D
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2403 on: October 26, 2015, 08:54:19 AM
I badly want a SOG Agency........but the price!  :ahhh

Nice blades everybody!  :salute:

I only had a bit of time yesterday for the GI Tanto I'm restoring&pimping for a friend, he already turned it into a two-tone blade with a sander, so I took the rest of the coating off as well.

I bought new paint stripper, I badly want to, but I'm finding it very difficult to strip the BK2 and BK9  :facepalm:

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 :cry: Also convinced myself there's an ESEE-sized hole in my collection......abandon hope all ye who enter here!  :rofl:

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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2404 on: October 26, 2015, 10:27:15 PM
So you're gettin ready to go down the ESEE rabbit hole G? Do we need to send in the HSLD (high speed low drag) boys to rescue you?   :D    I hear there good knives but for some reason they don't appeal to me.   :)
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2405 on: October 27, 2015, 08:35:02 AM
I feel (with relief) I'm starting to reach saturation point, and it looks like good parts of my disposable income will be heading in other directions soon.....
I wanted to get the ESEE 3,4,5 and 6, but my secret storage is full, and at time I realize the ridiculousness of it all....

Since I have a BK9 the ESEE 5 is probably out of the running, so a 6 in in Orange & Green  :ahhh sounds about right.

Fortunately I suspect sourcing an ESEE from here will be difficult.

Another problem is I can walk into local shops and choose from a huge selection of Cudemans for much less........   

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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2406 on: October 27, 2015, 09:38:05 AM
It's here  :D
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2407 on: October 28, 2015, 06:41:47 AM
What a handful!!!!!  :cheers:
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2408 on: October 28, 2015, 06:50:28 AM
I've had eye's on that Hudson Bay off and on for a while so will will look forward to how you think it performs over time.     :)
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2409 on: October 28, 2015, 07:31:16 AM
Quote from: David on October 28, 2015, 06:50:28 AM
I've had eye's on that Hudson Bay off and on for a while so will will look forward to how you think it performs over time.     :)

My advice would be to do it without a second thought. Worth it for the sheath (my original intention was buy it for the sheath for the bk9. But it won't fit with the ramp. So I decided to check out the condor. It's got a great finish, the aged hammered look, and it came sharp enough that a couple swipes on the sharpmaker had it where I wanted it. One handle scale feels thinner than the other, but are otherwise nicely finished and fit well.

Some had complaints about the 'ffg' not being ground. I was scared about getting a bar of steel with an edge, like a morbidly obese Mora. But mine both thins out slightly after the handle, and the grind is done well. Can't wait to get it into some wood, but it feels like a winner! And my first 1075 blade.

Funny how I got the scgrade schf36 on a whim, now I want the 37 and 38. Now I got this for the sheath, and I love it and want more condor! Ha!
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2410 on: October 28, 2015, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: Gerhard Gerber on October 27, 2015, 08:35:02 AM
I feel (with relief) I'm starting to reach saturation point. . . .

Famous last words, so to speak.

We've all been there and have managed to overcome that obstacle  :D
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2411 on: October 28, 2015, 06:38:59 PM
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Quote from: Gerhard Gerber on October 27, 2015, 08:35:02 AM
I feel (with relief) I'm starting to reach saturation point. . . .

Famous last words, so to speak.

We've all been there and have managed to overcome that obstacle  :D

I think I'm getting closer, but then I discover I *do* have a taste for a pattern or steel that used to turn me off :rofl:
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2412 on: October 29, 2015, 08:48:38 AM
Quote from: raistlin65 on October 28, 2015, 04:22:32 PM
Quote from: Gerhard Gerber on October 27, 2015, 08:35:02 AM
I feel (with relief) I'm starting to reach saturation point. . . .

Famous last words, so to speak.

We've all been there and have managed to overcome that obstacle  :D
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It's here  :D

There you go again, made me look!  :facepalm:

Found a South African site selling them for dirt cheap, and I'm busy restoring a GI Tanto, so the love affair with 1075  price vs performance is strong again....
Another big problem.....that same site sells Kizlyar, also reasonably priced.....  :cry:

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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2413 on: October 29, 2015, 04:54:43 PM
jet.com has 25% off for new members, up to $50,  using code YAHOO25. Free shipping over $35. They carry some ESEE, Ka-Bar, Buck, Cold Steel, among others. Might be some good deals in there.
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2414 on: November 02, 2015, 10:11:50 PM
Quote from: David on October 28, 2015, 06:50:28 AM
I've had eye's on that Hudson Bay off and on for a while so will will look forward to how you think it performs over time.     :)

Oh my goodness.

It's so good.

BK9 good, damn near. It really is. So ergonomic if you choke down to a three finger grip on the bottom, it's rock solid, every strike transmits zero vibration and the grip is solid. It chopped better than my tomahawk once I got toward the center of the trees I was chopping, (white cedar and hophorn beam), and overall aaalmost as good as the bk9, which is astounding. But the condor already has the wood scales and leather sheath I want for the Becker! I'm using the bk4 sheath for the 9, without it I doubt I'd be in love as much as I am.

Which isn't to say the condor is perfect. The edge is a bit fragile, and I straightened a roll a couple times with the short steel I have. Which was easy and it fixed well and stayed sharp, but know that it wont be hair popping sharp after chopping like the bk9.

As far as cutting food, didn't do much as I usually prefer stainless for food. That being said, I sliced an apple to bits and it was lovely :D

So yeah, condor the not so surprising winner here.

Trail master wasn't mentioned for a comparison (even though it went along on the trip as well), because though it chops decently, I'd never pick it over either of the other two if I planned on trying to chop with it.

:tu:

(sorry if it's a bit rambling :D )
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2415 on: November 09, 2015, 08:49:46 PM
Newest 165's including a S-W (top) and two awesome Craftsman hidden tangs (one a Deerslayer)!!!!!


My collection.



Top to bottom...

Schrade 165OT
Schrade Walden 165UH
Schrade Walden 165OT
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 Deerslayer ACA Edge (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165

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Reply #2416 on: November 10, 2015, 06:25:24 AM
those aren't bad pics. the knives just seem more rustic and that is good
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2417 on: November 10, 2015, 06:30:30 AM
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those aren't bad pics. the knives just seem more rustic and that is good

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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2418 on: November 10, 2015, 06:47:43 AM
Wow SG, that is an impressive collection of 165's. The best I've ever seen.  8) 8) 8)    :tu:    :salute:      :)
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2419 on: November 10, 2015, 07:06:29 AM
Quote from: David on November 10, 2015, 06:47:43 AM
Wow SG, that is an impressive collection of 165's. The best I've ever seen.  8) 8) 8)    :tu:    :salute:      :)

Thank you David!!! Had only intended on getting one but it got outta hand. The pattern is tied to happy memories for me.  There are more variations but they start getting really really scarce/expensive from here on out. I might pick another one up if I catch one reasonable but I'm about done with this pattern. The two hidden tang Craftsman need sheaths so I have to get those ordered. These are such great hunting knives...once you hold one, you want another one to put back. The weight, heft and ergonomics are just perfect. The old Schrade 1095 is awesome too!

Here's a great thread on them....lots of pics!
www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/725324-Post-your-165-s!

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mc Offline Gerhard Gerber

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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2420 on: November 10, 2015, 07:17:20 AM
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Schrade 165OT
Schrade Walden 165UH
Schrade Walden 165OT
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 Deerslayer ACA Edge (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165

Very very VERY nice! :salute: :tu:

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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2421 on: November 10, 2015, 07:38:02 AM
Quote from: Gerhard Gerber on November 10, 2015, 07:17:20 AM
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Schrade 165OT
Schrade Walden 165UH
Schrade Walden 165OT
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 Deerslayer ACA Edge (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165

Very very VERY nice! :salute: :tu:

Thank you Gerhard!!!  :cheers:
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2422 on: November 10, 2015, 09:00:24 AM
Quote from: SAK Guy on November 09, 2015, 08:49:46 PM
Newest 165's including a S-W (top) and two awesome Craftsman hidden tangs (one a Deerslayer)!!!!!
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My collection.
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Top to bottom...

Schrade 165OT
Schrade Walden 165UH
Schrade Walden 165OT
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 Deerslayer ACA Edge (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165

Poor pics, sorry.

Wow, those are really cool.   :gimme:

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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2423 on: November 10, 2015, 09:47:30 PM
Quote from: zoidberg on November 10, 2015, 09:00:24 AM
Quote from: SAK Guy on November 09, 2015, 08:49:46 PM
Newest 165's including a S-W (top) and two awesome Craftsman hidden tangs (one a Deerslayer)!!!!!
(Image removed from quote.)

My collection.
(Image removed from quote.)


Top to bottom...

Schrade 165OT
Schrade Walden 165UH
Schrade Walden 165OT
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 Deerslayer ACA Edge (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165 (hidden tang)
(Schrade) Craftsman 165

Poor pics, sorry.

Wow, those are really cool.   :gimme:

Thanks Z-man!!!!   :cheers:
- Robert




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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2424 on: November 11, 2015, 06:39:22 AM
Just saw a Ontario fixed blade at Walmart. Not sure what model, but I was surprised to see them carrying the Ontario brand.
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2425 on: November 12, 2015, 08:57:24 PM
Too many classy knives in here, so....

Tried to finish off the Elwell Bushman, added a wood insert to the handle and got it jammed in there, can't move it!  ::)  so it’s going to stay like that for a while
Got the sheath started (that might stay like it is for a while aswell  :D)




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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2426 on: November 13, 2015, 02:31:39 AM
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2427 on: November 15, 2015, 01:08:51 AM
Western Camper, BK11 and BK7     
What? Enablers! Are you serrrrious? Where? I dont see any.
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2428 on: November 15, 2015, 11:38:02 AM
Those dirty Beckers are beautiful
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Re: Show us your fixed blades
Reply #2429 on: November 15, 2015, 06:40:28 PM
Thinking I need one of these, a real one:

Does that count as a "fixed blade" or a "folder?"  ???

More seriously, have a SOG Seal Pup E37TN-CP on the way to go with my satin straight edge version. Jet.com has them for $49.35 + a 15% off coupon SHOPWITH15 so couldn't resist :D
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