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111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1

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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #541 on: February 15, 2018, 09:21:28 AM
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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #545 on: February 15, 2018, 01:49:45 PM
The Hunter XS is a real gem - slim, lightweight, and practical - offering a plain edge and a rescue blade in two layers, without any bells and whistles other than a corkscrew on the back.
You'd think, and I'd think (and some clown at Victorinox obviously had the same thought) that adding an opening layer would turn this gem into a masterpiece. Sadly, the resulting Dual Pro, as it was sold in Europe, is a design disaster.
The opening layer obviously adds width and weight - fair enough - but it also makes opening and closing the main blade slightly more awkward. Worse than that, one discovers that the main blade has lost its plain edge and is now serrated, so you have two serrated blades on one knife. This is one of the strangest decisions to come out of Ibach, and one with no convincing explanation.
Since most people aren't going to need a rescue /gutting blade very often, they'd be far better off with a two layer Nomad. And if they're fine with three layers, they'd be better served by a Trailmaster or a Forester, both of which replace the rescue blade with a very handy saw. All these SAKs are more comfortable in the hand - and you're less likely to find yourself cranking open the wrong blade, as I so often do with the Hunter XS.
In any case, as far as I can tell the Dual Pro is the perfect SAK for nobody, apart from people who love serrations and the complications involved in sharpening them. For me, the Dual Pro is a total stinker, the Phantom Menace of the lineup, and my least used 111mm SAK. It's been discontinued for a couple of years now, but there is no shortage of supply - Victorinox made more of them than humanity will ever need!
Obviously, the Dual Pro X is another story... and one which I am unable to tell, cos I don't have one.
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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #546 on: February 15, 2018, 02:04:13 PM
The Hunter XS is a real gem - slim, lightweight, and practical - offering a plain edge and a rescue blade in two layers, without any bells and whistles other than a corkscrew on the back.
You'd think, and I'd think (and some clown at Victorinox obviously had the same thought) that adding an opening layer would turn this gem into a masterpiece. Sadly, the resulting Dual Pro, as it was sold in Europe, is a design disaster.
The opening layer obviously adds width and weight - fair enough - but it also makes opening and closing the main blade slightly more awkward. Worse than that, one discovers that the main blade has lost its plain edge and is now serrated, so you have two serrated blades on one knife. This is one of the strangest decisions to come out of Ibach, and one with no convincing explanation.
Since most people aren't going to need a rescue /gutting blade very often, they'd be far better off with a two layer Nomad. And if they're fine with three layers, they'd be better served by a Trailmaster or a Forester, both of which replace the rescue blade with a very handy saw. All these SAKs are more comfortable in the hand - and you're less likely to find yourself cranking open the wrong blade, as I so often do with the Hunter XS.
In any case, as far as I can tell the Dual Pro is the perfect SAK for nobody, apart from people who love serrations and the complications involved in sharpening them. For me, the Dual Pro is a total stinker, the Phantom Menace of the lineup, and my least used 111mm SAK. It's been discontinued for a couple of years now, but there is no shortage of supply - Victorinox made more of them than humanity will ever need!
Obviously, the Dual Pro X is another story... and one which I am unable to tell, cos I don't have one.
As one that has been curious about them two and the one with wood saw, thanks a ton for the write up! What is your thought on the hunter XL/XT?

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« Last Edit: February 15, 2018, 02:08:51 PM by stoneshank »


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #547 on: February 15, 2018, 02:24:35 PM
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In any case, as far as I can tell the Dual Pro is the perfect SAK for nobody, apart from people who love serrations and the complications involved in sharpening them. For me, the Dual Pro is a total stinker, the Phantom Menace of the lineup, and my least used 111mm SAK. It's been discontinued for a couple of years now, but there is no shortage of supply - Victorinox made more of them than humanity will ever need!
Obviously, the Dual Pro X is another story... and one which I am unable to tell, cos I don't have one.

Now that's what I like about Victorinox. Not only do they have a perfect SAK for everybody, but there's also the perfect SAK for nobody!  :salute:

Those guys and gals just think of everything (and nothing)!
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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #548 on: February 15, 2018, 02:27:19 PM
Day 15 -- Hunter

IMO the best of the 111mm hunting knives. This is the lightweight slidelock version.
Usually I carry the Hunter together with the Helmsman (yesterday´s entry).

Yesterday´s Helmsman picture is here https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75677.msg1637546.html#msg1637546
More Hunter and Helmsman pics (day 9) https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,75677.msg1633789.html#msg1633789

And yes, I´m still here! I decided not to start the PX challenge today after all.
I have a level 3 collector badge for the 111mm series so it´s about time I complete a 30 day challenge as well.  :)
Besides, I don´t want to miss out on a chance of winning that Mauser.  :ahhh

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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #549 on: February 15, 2018, 02:53:34 PM
Powernoodle Day 15



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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #550 on: February 15, 2018, 02:57:59 PM

The Hunter XS is a real gem - slim, lightweight, and practical...

As one that has been curious about them two and the one with wood saw, thanks a ton for the write up! What is your thought on the hunter XL/XT?



Day 8 -- Fireman and Hunter XT

Plain blade, serrated blade and woodsaw. Both knives have them but there´s a big difference. Take a look at the Hunter XT. It doesn´t matter which tool you´re using, there will always be hotspots. The XT may be easier when wearing gloves, but the fact is, with the XT you need gloves, and that´s why I prefer the Fireman. Still, the Hunter XT is a great SAK.


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #551 on: February 15, 2018, 02:59:18 PM
Now that's what I like about Victorinox. Not only do they have a perfect SAK for everybody, but there's also the perfect SAK for nobody!  :salute:
:D  :rofl:
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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #552 on: February 15, 2018, 03:39:36 PM
Hi Stoneshank, I think Ron is right - the old green Hunter is the one to get if you want the saw. Having the gutting blade and a good-enough opener on one layer is fantastic - I wish more of the 111mm SAKs did this!
Obviously if you find a bargain Hunter XT and you like the orange scales (who doesn't!) then it may be the one for you. But having a SAK and no means of opening a beer is like having a car with no headlights.


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #553 on: February 15, 2018, 03:43:56 PM
Diggin' the stag logo, Ron!

Diggin' the Olympics, Powernoodle! Can't say I've watched much of the ice scrubbin' so far....


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #554 on: February 15, 2018, 04:19:28 PM
Diggin' the stag logo, Ron!


There is a chamois logo as well. I´ve never seen one for real. From one of ColoSwiss´ pics:

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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #555 on: February 15, 2018, 04:30:46 PM
Just vertigo. I'm fine now.  :cheers:

 :2tu:  Hydrate!


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #556 on: February 15, 2018, 04:38:05 PM
Hi Stoneshank, I think Ron is right - the old green hunter...

But having a SAK and no means of opening a beer is like having a car with no headlights.

I bow to the wisdom of my betters! Only thing with the hunter is the no-OH, other than that the hunter is great.

My ideal 111mm for when I go out with my dog/ look for whittling suitable wood to bring home:
* oh blade
* wood saw
*  easy way to cut off a seatbelt with as little risk to the passenger as possible. Back in 2001 I had to do that as getting first to a frontal car crash with the rest of my squad. All I had was a G1 Garm (Fällkniven) dagger. It worked but I , in my focus to remove the seat belt without hurting the passenger, cut myself and had a very maturing experience about the knife as a tool instead of a gimmicky (read: Tacticool) weapon for a soldier.

 One of the noble things with Victorinox and Wenger afaik is that the brands have never been associated with hostile violence, even if they even have the word "army" in their description (Swiss army knife). This is something I appreciate, much more now as I grow older, with Victorinox.

I might give the non oh hunter a shot one day.

Ty for the response!

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« Last Edit: February 15, 2018, 04:40:56 PM by stoneshank »


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #557 on: February 15, 2018, 04:41:06 PM
Nice shots today!

Fun logo there, Ron.


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #558 on: February 15, 2018, 04:42:28 PM


 One of the noble things with Victorinox and Wenger afaik is that the brands have never been associated with hostile violence, even if they even have the word "army" in their description (Swiss army knife). This is something I appreciate, much more now as I grow older, with Victorinox.



Right there with you, stoneshank.


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #559 on: February 15, 2018, 04:44:08 PM
Day 15 Trekker staying teller and being there for the eventuality that I find some wood material to bring home

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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #560 on: February 15, 2018, 05:15:58 PM
Diggin' the stag logo, Ron!


There is a chamois logo as well. I´ve never seen one for real. From one of ColoSwiss´ pics:

Who else  :rofl:
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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #561 on: February 15, 2018, 05:16:34 PM
Day 15

The Outrider just hanging out at work waiting for something to do
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Reply #562 on: February 15, 2018, 05:16:48 PM
Diggin' the stag logo, Ron!

Diggin' the Olympics, Powernoodle! Can't say I've watched much of the ice scrubbin' so far....

Diggin' the diggin', T-Pants!
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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #563 on: February 15, 2018, 05:36:43 PM
Day 4, Italian police business

I was wondering what an Italian police officer can do with his rescue blade when he's not busy rescuing people. For some reason I ended up with peeling grapes  :think:



It is really remarkable how different these grapes taste without their skin. I really learned something here today.
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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #564 on: February 15, 2018, 06:13:50 PM

...For some reason I ended up with peeling grapes  :think:


Never crossed my mind. I like the splash when biting through the skin.  :drool:


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Reply #565 on: February 15, 2018, 06:28:21 PM
Hi Stoneshank, I think Ron is right - the old green hunter...

But having a SAK and no means of opening a beer is like having a car with no headlights.

I bow to the wisdom of my betters! Only thing with the hunter is the no-OH, other than that the hunter is great.

My ideal 111mm for when I go out with my dog/ look for whittling suitable wood to bring home:
* oh blade
* wood saw
*  easy way to cut off a seatbelt with as little risk to the passenger as possible. Back in 2001 I had to do that as getting first to a frontal car crash with the rest of my squad. All I had was a G1 Garm (Fällkniven) dagger. It worked but I , in my focus to remove the seat belt without hurting the passenger, cut myself and had a very maturing experience about the knife as a tool instead of a gimmicky (read: Tacticool) weapon for a soldier.

 One of the noble things with Victorinox and Wenger afaik is that the brands have never been associated with hostile violence, even if they even have the word "army" in their description (Swiss army knife). This is something I appreciate, much more now as I grow older, with Victorinox.

I might give the non oh hunter a shot one day.

Ty for the response!

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Day15.

It sounds to me like your describing a OH Trekker or Soldier depending on if you want a plane edge or serrated. The Victorinox 111mm OH blade is designed with a blunt tip so it can be used as a rescue blade.
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Jeep the SAK of the auto world or is it SAK the Jeep of the Knife world?


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #566 on: February 15, 2018, 06:28:40 PM
I like the splash when biting through the skin.  :drool:

So does Dracula!

Interesting to hear about Stoneshank's accident - and glad you got out with only minor flesh wounds!  I've always tried to ignore that part of the gutting blade functionality, hoping that I'd never have to use it as a rescue blade (or indeed as a gutting blade!)  I'm pretty sure that when disaster strikes I'll find I only have a Golf Tool or something useless on my person! (Or a cheese knife!)


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #568 on: February 15, 2018, 07:54:50 PM
Day 13 if I can still count :

The only green left on this tree is getting challenged by Hercules


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Re: 111mm SAK 30 Day Challenge - open to all Feb 1
Reply #569 on: February 15, 2018, 07:59:46 PM
Day 15
In the bougainvillea.
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