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Gerber MP400 refreshed version.

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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #30 on: March 02, 2018, 02:15:35 PM
Oh my that is awesome, Sam! You're welcome for the idea, but wow did you do a nice job!
On a side note, the plier head is similar to the way I regrind my broken tipped needle noses at work. Similar to a SOG plier head. Very nice for fine work!

So, when ya going to start mass producing these 'MP400Lim' MTs? :like:
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #31 on: March 02, 2018, 03:14:32 PM
Oh my that is awesome, Sam! You're welcome for the idea, but wow did you do a nice job!
On a side note, the plier head is similar to the way I regrind my broken tipped needle noses at work. Similar to a SOG plier head. Very nice for fine work!

So, when ya going to start mass producing these 'MP400Lim' MTs? :like:

Visit my booth at SHOT show 2019. Lol..  :whistle:

Now that you reminded me of the SOG PPP, I dun feel so bad about grinding down on the plier tip.. Yes, the narrowed tip is really suited for fine work.  :cheers:




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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #32 on: March 02, 2018, 05:01:05 PM
Oh my that is awesome, Sam! You're welcome for the idea, but wow did you do a nice job!
On a side note, the plier head is similar to the way I regrind my broken tipped needle noses at work. Similar to a SOG plier head. Very nice for fine work!

So, when ya going to start mass producing these 'MP400Lim' MTs? :like:

Visit my booth at SHOT show 2019. Lol..  :whistle:


I'll be looking for it there. :like:
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #33 on: March 02, 2018, 05:15:26 PM
Oh my that is awesome, Sam! You're welcome for the idea, but wow did you do a nice job!
On a side note, the plier head is similar to the way I regrind my broken tipped needle noses at work. Similar to a SOG plier head. Very nice for fine work!

So, when ya going to start mass producing these 'MP400Lim' MTs? :like:

Visit my booth at SHOT show 2019. Lol..  :whistle:


I'll be looking for it there. :like:

I will be somewhere outside the venue, setting up shop. Have to be fast though, the guards would probably chase me away once they spot me..  :cheers:


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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #34 on: March 02, 2018, 06:23:18 PM
A little how-to on installing the clip.

Its a standard Wave/charge clip with a little modification. Somewhere in the middle of the screw post, u will need to cut out a groove for the pocket clip to slide in. See pic and you will get it. A little precision cutting. Go slow. A proper nice cut will minimize any side to side play. On the clip, ground off any excess on the sides and leave some allowance on the bottom 2 "feets". Now side to side is settled if you have done the cut nicely.


Red is the area you need to cut groove. Green is the position of the pocket clip


Next you have prevent it from moving up and down or sliding off. What I did was, I torch the "feets"one by one. When it hot/soft enough, I hammer the buggers to wrap it around the pivot.

See, you are done. Easy as pie.



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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #35 on: March 02, 2018, 06:26:12 PM
A little how-to on installing the clip.

Its a standard Wave/charge clip with a little modification. Somewhere in the middle of the screw post, u will need to cut out a groove for the pocket clip to slide in. See pic and you will get it. A little precision cutting. Go slow. A proper nice cut will minimize any side to side play. On the clip, ground off any excess on the sides and leave some allowance on the bottom 2 "feets". Now side to side is settled if you have done the cut nicely.


Red is the area you need to cut groove. Green is the position of the pocket clip
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Next you have prevent it from moving up and down or sliding off. What I did was, I torch the "feets"one by one. When it hot/soft enough, I hammer the buggers to wrap it around the pivot.

See, you are done. Easy as pie.
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Nice! Some good thinking there

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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #36 on: March 02, 2018, 06:32:50 PM
A little how-to on installing the clip.

Its a standard Wave/charge clip with a little modification. Somewhere in the middle of the screw post, u will need to cut out a groove for the pocket clip to slide in. See pic and you will get it. A little precision cutting. Go slow. A proper nice cut will minimize any side to side play. On the clip, ground off any excess on the sides and leave some allowance on the bottom 2 "feets". Now side to side is settled if you have done the cut nicely.


Red is the area you need to cut groove. Green is the position of the pocket clip
(Image removed from quote.)

Next you have prevent it from moving up and down or sliding off. What I did was, I torch the "feets"one by one. When it hot/soft enough, I hammer the buggers to wrap it around the pivot.

See, you are done. Easy as pie.
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(Image removed from quote.)
Nice! Some good thinking there

Sent fra min FRD-L09 via Tapatalk

 :)

Just happened that that particular side of the pivot is in a fixed position. That helps alot. And because that clip is already jammed between the frame and post screw, you will be able to still do some adjustment to the tightness of the implements without much affecting the clip.
 :cheers:


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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #37 on: March 02, 2018, 06:37:55 PM
Nicely done as always  :tu: :like: :like:
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #38 on: March 02, 2018, 07:10:32 PM
A little how-to on installing the clip.

Its a standard Wave/charge clip with a little modification. Somewhere in the middle of the screw post, u will need to cut out a groove for the pocket clip to slide in. See pic and you will get it. A little precision cutting. Go slow. A proper nice cut will minimize any side to side play. On the clip, ground off any excess on the sides and leave some allowance on the bottom 2 "feets". Now side to side is settled if you have done the cut nicely.


Red is the area you need to cut groove. Green is the position of the pocket clip
(Image removed from quote.)

Next you have prevent it from moving up and down or sliding off. What I did was, I torch the "feets"one by one. When it hot/soft enough, I hammer the buggers to wrap it around the pivot.

See, you are done. Easy as pie.
(Image removed from quote.)
(Image removed from quote.)
Nice! Some good thinking there

Sent fra min FRD-L09 via Tapatalk

 :)

Just happened that that particular side of the pivot is in a fixed position. That helps alot. And because that clip is already jammed between the frame and post screw, you will be able to still do some adjustment to the tightness of the implements without much affecting the clip.
 :cheers:
Great idea!

Sent fra min FRD-L09 via Tapatalk



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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #39 on: March 02, 2018, 07:25:55 PM
Thanks for the very clear and clever explanation Sam  :salute: Great work.
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Reply #40 on: March 03, 2018, 10:48:21 AM
Thanks for the very clear and clever explanation Sam  :salute: Great work.

 :salute:

There's still a little problem though. The gap at the top the clip is a little roomy. It hangs alright but goes not grip tight in the pocket. I snapped one clip before this trying to close the gap.


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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #41 on: March 03, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
Are you planning to do anything
else to your MP400 Sam Lim :tu: :like:
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Reply #42 on: March 03, 2018, 05:55:14 PM
Are you planning to do anything
else to your MP400 Sam Lim :tu: :like:

 ;) any suggestions?


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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #43 on: March 03, 2018, 06:21:00 PM
Are you planning to do anything
else to your MP400 Sam Lim :tu: :like:

 ;) any suggestions?
Not that I can think of right now  :think:
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #44 on: March 04, 2018, 09:10:58 AM
Thanks for the very clear and clever explanation Sam  :salute: Great work.

 :salute:

There's still a little problem though. The gap at the top the clip is a little roomy. It hangs alright but goes not grip tight in the pocket. I snapped one clip before this trying to close the gap.

You can anneal, bend, heat treat the pocket clip pretty easily. I've done a few of them now.


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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #45 on: March 04, 2018, 11:09:04 AM
Thanks for the very clear and clever explanation Sam  :salute: Great work.

 :salute:

There's still a little problem though. The gap at the top the clip is a little roomy. It hangs alright but goes not grip tight in the pocket. I snapped one clip before this trying to close the gap.

You can anneal, bend, heat treat the pocket clip pretty easily. I've done a few of them now.

Thanks, another quick question, do I really need to heat treat it after annealing? Thought without doing it, it will keep it softer. Lesser chance of breakage? I have almost zero knowledge in these things.
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Reply #46 on: March 04, 2018, 12:52:23 PM
Are you planning to do anything
else to your MP400 Sam Lim :tu: :like:

 ;) any suggestions?
Not that I can think of right now  :think:

Actually, yes there is.  :D


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Reply #47 on: March 04, 2018, 01:22:40 PM
Are you planning to do anything
else to your MP400 Sam Lim :tu: :like:

 ;) any suggestions?
Not that I can think of right now  :think:

Actually, yes there is.  :D
Do tell  :popcorn:
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Reply #48 on: March 04, 2018, 03:10:32 PM
Need to find nicer screws at work and tidy up of some corner..  :cheers:
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #49 on: March 04, 2018, 03:13:51 PM
That is a nice touch :like:
Can you use it one handed? :tu: :like: :like:
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #50 on: March 04, 2018, 03:41:01 PM
Thanks for the very clear and clever explanation Sam  :salute: Great work.

If you want a clip to add one to yours, I've got a few sat doing nothing  :pok:


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Reply #51 on: March 04, 2018, 03:49:04 PM
That is a nice touch :like:
Can you use it one handed? :tu: :like: :like:

Not quite possible.. The back spring on this is rather strong... But then again....  :D


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Reply #52 on: March 04, 2018, 04:07:14 PM
That is a nice touch :like:
Can you use it one handed? :tu: :like: :like:

Not quite possible.. The back spring on this is rather strong... But then again....  :D
what about a thumb stud
Than you should be able to open one handed
Like in the pic :tu:
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Reply #53 on: March 04, 2018, 04:18:42 PM
That is a nice touch :like:
Can you use it one handed? :tu: :like: :like:

Not quite possible.. The back spring on this is rather strong... But then again....  :D
what about a thumb stud
Than you should be able to open one handed
Like in the pic :tu:

I.. dun have the capability to drill...

But at the moment I am happy enough.. as long as the blade is outside, I am good. I think. . lets see if I miss OHO.. :)
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #54 on: March 04, 2018, 04:24:21 PM
That is a nice touch :like:
Can you use it one handed? :tu: :like: :like:

Not quite possible.. The back spring on this is rather strong... But then again....  :D
what about a thumb stud
Than you should be able to open one handed
Like in the pic :tu:

I.. dun have the capability to drill...
thats a shame Sam
Have you got any engineering shops near you
That you could use  :think:
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #55 on: March 04, 2018, 05:11:28 PM
Awesome job!  :like:


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Reply #56 on: March 04, 2018, 05:45:52 PM
 :D
Some minor changes to the toolset. Threw the file and can opener back in.

 :cheers:
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Reply #57 on: March 04, 2018, 06:09:39 PM
:D
Some minor changes to the toolset. Threw the file and can opener back in.

 :cheers:
very nice :cheers:
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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #58 on: March 04, 2018, 06:44:21 PM
Thanks for the very clear and clever explanation Sam  :salute: Great work.

 :salute:

There's still a little problem though. The gap at the top the clip is a little roomy. It hangs alright but goes not grip tight in the pocket. I snapped one clip before this trying to close the gap.

You can anneal, bend, heat treat the pocket clip pretty easily. I've done a few of them now.

Thanks, another quick question, do I really need to heat treat it after annealing? Thought without doing it, it will keep it softer. Lesser chance of breakage? I have almost zero knowledge in these things.

That is up to you. Would think the heat treat gives the pocket clip a better spring ability. None of mine have broken.


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Re: Gerber MP400 refreshed version.
Reply #59 on: March 04, 2018, 07:36:50 PM
Thanks for the very clear and clever explanation Sam  :salute: Great work.

If you want a clip to add one to yours, I've got a few sat doing nothing  :pok:
Cheers for the offer Kev - I'll pass though as I carry mine in a nifty LM belt sheath.  :salute:
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