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Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
on: March 08, 2018, 10:39:21 PM
Apologies if this is elsewhere, but it looked like a freshly posted article, and I couldn't find any other way to comment?


It seems that the knock-off factories are getting pretty good - which is not necessarily a bad thing?
It's a bit like online stores reminding big department stores that they need to update, improve, and stay relevant to compete.

Obviously I don't support it - R&D is expensive, and releasing a new product is risky, and it's not fair (or right) to let someone else do all of that, wait until they have a successful product, and then copy it. Which is probably why we have rules for patents, and why counterfeiters (and anyone importing them) are heavily penalised.


Onto the item - I'd like to see you run the tools (such as they are) through use

if the fake (or even the genuine) Tread tool components turn to putty the moment you try to use them, that is a very real indicator of the quality, beyond their ability to create something cosmetically identical....



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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #1 on: March 08, 2018, 11:10:29 PM
There's another thread further down that includes the article. I posted both today but I'm just as happy to have this here too.  :D

The point is, while I don't condone buying fakes I would rather people know what they are buying. The guy who buys fakes for $50 then passes them off for real ones and charges $150 for them is much worse than the people who sell the copies for $50 In the first place.

I fully intend to try and use them some more.  The worst part is that I've been wearing the fake for a few months now and haven't really found a job that it could do or was good at, and that has more to do with the overall uselessness of the concept than it does any shortcomings of the knockoff.

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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #2 on: March 08, 2018, 11:12:11 PM
If you are interested, here is a link to the other thread, started when I got the fake initially.

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,74474.0.html

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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #3 on: March 09, 2018, 12:37:03 AM
Should it then be renamed the 'Stumble'  :rofl:
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #4 on: March 09, 2018, 01:12:01 AM
Which one?  :P

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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #5 on: March 09, 2018, 01:19:13 AM
Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on March 09, 2018, 01:12:01 AM
Which one?  :P

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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #6 on: March 11, 2018, 12:15:20 PM
I spotted this today. Probably fake, as Leatherman is not mentioned anywhere. https://store.ringtoperfection.com/products/29-in-1-stainless-steel-multi-functional-campers-bracelet
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #7 on: March 11, 2018, 12:27:38 PM
Probably yes.

But look at all those uses!
And Grant couldn't come up with 1 ::)
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #8 on: March 11, 2018, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on March 11, 2018, 12:27:38 PM
Probably yes.

But look at all those uses!
And Grant couldn't come up with 1 ::)
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Maybe he doesn't have a bicycle?
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #9 on: March 11, 2018, 01:43:38 PM
Quote from: microbe on March 11, 2018, 12:44:16 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on March 11, 2018, 12:27:38 PM
Probably yes.

But look at all those uses!
And Grant couldn't come up with 1 ::)
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Maybe he doesn't have a bicycle?
At least SOME of the screwdrivers ought to fit his titanium screws. :angel:
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #10 on: March 11, 2018, 04:50:07 PM
Actually I don't think so. I am pretty sure the screws in my left ankle are Robertson ones, although I'm not sure what's on the right.   :facepalm:

And my bicycle is away for the season.

I saw an ad for a fake Tread on Instagram the other day so I left the message "You know @Leatherman patented these, right?"

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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #11 on: March 11, 2018, 04:57:02 PM


Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on March 11, 2018, 04:50:07 PM
Actually I don't think so. I am pretty sure the screws in my left ankle are Robertson ones, although I'm not sure what's on the right.   :facepalm:

And my bicycle is away for the season.

I saw an ad for a fake Tread on Instagram the other day so I left the message "You know @Leatherman patented these, right?"

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Ti Robertson screws?!
A true Canadian! :rofl:

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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #12 on: March 11, 2018, 05:35:55 PM
I haven't heard anything yet.

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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #13 on: March 11, 2018, 10:41:32 PM
I think my favourite review from the knock-off site listed above (knock off I suppose in this instance because they're not calling it Leatherman, and it doesn't have the logo imprinted on it. Whether stealing IP is a greater or lessor crime that counterfeiting I'm not sure)

Anyway --

Quote from: Some made up reviewer
The person who came up with this idea is a genius!! Thank you RTP!


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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #14 on: March 11, 2018, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on March 11, 2018, 04:57:02 PM


Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on March 11, 2018, 04:50:07 PM
Actually I don't think so. I am pretty sure the screws in my left ankle are Robertson ones, although I'm not sure what's on the right.   :facepalm:

And my bicycle is away for the season.

I saw an ad for a fake Tread on Instagram the other day so I left the message "You know @Leatherman patented these, right?"

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Ti Robertson screws?!
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Did LM give any feedback?
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #15 on: March 12, 2018, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on March 11, 2018, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on March 11, 2018, 04:57:02 PM


Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on March 11, 2018, 04:50:07 PM
Actually I don't think so. I am pretty sure the screws in my left ankle are Robertson ones, although I'm not sure what's on the right.   :facepalm:

And my bicycle is away for the season.

I saw an ad for a fake Tread on Instagram the other day so I left the message "You know @Leatherman patented these, right?"

Def

Ti Robertson screws?!
A true Canadian! :rofl:

Did LM give any feedback?
TI Robertson screws. :dd:
That’s like the pinnacle of screw technology!

Those devious Canadians, trying to take over the world with their fancy screws!  :rant:


WE'RE SCREWED!




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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #16 on: March 12, 2018, 11:54:11 AM
Quote from: AlephZero on March 12, 2018, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on March 11, 2018, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on March 11, 2018, 04:57:02 PM


Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on March 11, 2018, 04:50:07 PM
Actually I don't think so. I am pretty sure the screws in my left ankle are Robertson ones, although I'm not sure what's on the right.   :facepalm:

And my bicycle is away for the season.

I saw an ad for a fake Tread on Instagram the other day so I left the message "You know @Leatherman patented these, right?"

Def

Ti Robertson screws?!
A true Canadian! :rofl:

Did LM give any feedback?
TI Robertson screws. :dd:
That’s like the pinnacle of screw technology!

Those devious Canadians, trying to take over the world with their fancy screws!  :rant:


WE'RE SCREWED!




 ::)

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I’ll take that any day over pozi drive and Philips.  :pok:
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #17 on: March 12, 2018, 01:37:39 PM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on March 12, 2018, 11:54:11 AM
Quote from: AlephZero on March 12, 2018, 11:47:04 AM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on March 11, 2018, 11:53:18 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on March 11, 2018, 04:57:02 PM


Quote from: Grant Lamontagne on March 11, 2018, 04:50:07 PM
Actually I don't think so. I am pretty sure the screws in my left ankle are Robertson ones, although I'm not sure what's on the right.   :facepalm:

And my bicycle is away for the season.

I saw an ad for a fake Tread on Instagram the other day so I left the message "You know @Leatherman patented these, right?"

Def

Ti Robertson screws?!
A true Canadian! :rofl:

Did LM give any feedback?
TI Robertson screws. :dd:
That’s like the pinnacle of screw technology!

Those devious Canadians, trying to take over the world with their fancy screws!  :rant:


WE'RE SCREWED!




 ::)

 :D
I’ll take that any day over pozi drive and Philips.  :pok:
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #18 on: March 13, 2018, 07:41:04 AM
Oddly enough, my LM Universal Tool Adapter came with not just one, but TWO Robertson bits  :think:

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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #19 on: March 13, 2018, 09:11:23 AM
Same here...
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #20 on: March 13, 2018, 12:59:09 PM
Quote from: AlephZero on March 13, 2018, 07:41:04 AM
Oddly enough, my LM Universal Tool Adapter came with not just one, but TWO Robertson bits  :think:

 :pok:

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So you get the joy of buying a lot more stuff (extra bits, adaptor) just to do basic things that you could do with regular bits available at pretty well any corner or hardware store with any other brand?  :D

Def
Leave the dents as they are- let your belongings show their scars as proudly as you do yours.
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #21 on: May 09, 2018, 06:37:56 PM
A little derailment. I got some pretty fancy commercials for this obviously fake LM tread on instagram today.
(You can even see it says leatherman on it in some of the pics :facepalm:)
They claim it is their own tool though...
https://awesurf.com/products/alphatool-multi-tool-stainless-steel-bracelet
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Re: Fake or Real Tread? (GLs Front Page Review)
Reply #22 on: May 10, 2018, 12:28:12 PM
Quote from: Grathr on May 09, 2018, 06:37:56 PM
A little derailment. I got some pretty fancy commercials for this obviously fake LM tread on instagram today.
(You can even see it says leatherman on it in some of the pics :facepalm:)
They claim it is their own tool though...
https://awesurf.com/products/alphatool-multi-tool-stainless-steel-bracelet

The website and pics in there looks really nicely done though. Makes me wanna get a thread.. for a few sec....
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