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Electrical work & SOG meltdown

il Offline israelpiper

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Electrical work & SOG meltdown
on: March 20, 2018, 09:21:02 AM
SOG PowerAssist Meltdown


Doing some wiring, and apparently I forgot to check the power.  Small explosion. Smoke. Part of the cutter melted, and there was molten copper from the wire all over. Which I sand off when hardened.  In the end, I have another insulation stripper built-in, though not where I'd want it.

On a different topic, what a difference under magnification is this SOG from my Victorinox multi tools! The finish is far superior on the Vic models.


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #1 on: March 20, 2018, 09:27:12 AM
Excellent pic. Hope you're all good mate. I would probably need some clean pants if that was me.


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #2 on: March 20, 2018, 09:54:19 AM
Glad you got away with it IP  :ahhh That's quite a bit of damage isn't it? Makes you think.......
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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #3 on: March 20, 2018, 10:49:51 AM
I've been electrocuted before. Probably why I not an electrician. The white beard looks good, anyway.

The worst of it was that I had a brand new computer on the line, and I was afraid I blew the board. As I told my wife, we have comprehensive national health coverage here, so I can always see a doctor without it costing, but computer parts take real money.

Next time I will check the line for power.


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #4 on: March 20, 2018, 10:51:16 AM
Ban dangerous electricity!  :D

Glad it wasn't worse.  :cheers:
I hope that the computer is fine. :dwts:
This is where a UPS might have helped? :think:
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #5 on: March 20, 2018, 10:58:46 AM
Every true electrician touched live lines sometime.

Last time it caused a blue spark and a loud bang.

I nearly wetted myself!
It didn't hurt, but the flash and bang were frightening.

Glad you're ok!


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #6 on: March 20, 2018, 11:29:29 AM
Same here, I've electrocuted myself a couple of times. The last time I did it, I wasn't sure what just happened... so I touched it again!  :facepalm:

Interestingly, there's a blast mark on the large screwdriver of my pst where the previous owners contacted something rather beefy.... I hope they were okay!  :ahhh


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #7 on: March 20, 2018, 11:35:34 AM
Nice little weld mark...



 :ahhh


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #8 on: March 20, 2018, 11:44:19 AM
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 12:16:08 PM
Be careful! You don't want the last sound you hear to be zznyaaark!


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 12:30:54 PM
You'r not a true electrician if you didn't survive electric shock and left half of factory without electric power  :salute: 8) :D

One must have a story to brag about  :whistle:
« Last Edit: March 20, 2018, 12:32:15 PM by Vjeko Posavac »


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 12:36:57 PM
Nice little weld mark...

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 :ahhh
Whoa....
Looks like a 230VAC mark to me

I really hope whoever it was (who stuck it in a live circuit) was okay... I'd hate to think my favourite mt is possessed with the malevolent spirit of its previous owner! .... Have I got a haunted PST? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 12:57:57 PM
Nice little weld mark...

(Image removed from quote.)

 :ahhh
Whoa....
Looks like a 230VAC mark to me

I really hope whoever it was (who stuck it in a live circuit) was okay... I'd hate to think my favourite mt is possessed with the malevolent spirit of its previous owner! .... Have I got a haunted PST? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
You most definitely do.  :cheers:
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #14 on: March 20, 2018, 12:58:39 PM
Nice little weld mark...

(Image removed from quote.)

 :ahhh
Whoa....
Looks like a 230VAC mark to me

I really hope whoever it was (who stuck it in a live circuit) was okay... I'd hate to think my favourite mt is possessed with the malevolent spirit of its previous owner! .... Have I got a haunted PST? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
You most definitely do.  :cheers:
Yup, and you're next on his hitlist Fuzzy.


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #15 on: March 20, 2018, 01:15:54 PM
Nice little weld mark...

(Image removed from quote.)

 :ahhh
Whoa....
Looks like a 230VAC mark to me

I really hope whoever it was (who stuck it in a live circuit) was okay... I'd hate to think my favourite mt is possessed with the malevolent spirit of its previous owner! .... Have I got a haunted PST? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
You most definitely do.  :cheers:
Yup, and you're next on his hitlist Fuzzy.

Okay... well that might explain the black shadowy thing that keeps making appearances. It was at the bottom of my bed this morning when I woke up... I'm not kidding!



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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #16 on: March 20, 2018, 01:17:51 PM
Nice little weld mark...

(Image removed from quote.)

 :ahhh
Whoa....
Looks like a 230VAC mark to me

I really hope whoever it was (who stuck it in a live circuit) was okay... I'd hate to think my favourite mt is possessed with the malevolent spirit of its previous owner! .... Have I got a haunted PST? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
You most definitely do.  :cheers:
Yup, and you're next on his hitlist Fuzzy.

Okay... well that might explain the black shadowy thing that keeps making appearances. It was at the bottom of my bed this morning when I woke up... I'm not kidding!

(Image removed from quote.)
You sure it wasn't the cat?


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #17 on: March 20, 2018, 01:19:35 PM
You'r not a true electrician if you didn't survive electric shock and left half of factory without electric power  :salute: 8) :D

One must have a story to brag about  :whistle:

 :facepalm: :D
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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #18 on: March 20, 2018, 01:47:19 PM
Nice little weld mark...

(Image removed from quote.)

 :ahhh
Whoa....
Looks like a 230VAC mark to me

I really hope whoever it was (who stuck it in a live circuit) was okay... I'd hate to think my favourite mt is possessed with the malevolent spirit of its previous owner! .... Have I got a haunted PST? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
You most definitely do.  :cheers:
Yup, and you're next on his hitlist Fuzzy.

Okay... well that might explain the black shadowy thing that keeps making appearances. It was at the bottom of my bed this morning when I woke up... I'm not kidding!

(Image removed from quote.)
You sure it wasn't the cat?
Could be an evil black cat.
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #19 on: March 20, 2018, 01:50:58 PM
Nice to hear that you are alright israelpiper  :tu:
Shame about your SOG damage  :ahhh
But at least you are still in good health  :cheers:
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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #20 on: March 20, 2018, 01:54:19 PM
I have one word of advice for you

Non-Contact Voltage Tester! :oops:

SOG PowerAssist Meltdown
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Doing some wiring, and apparently I forgot to check the power.  Small explosion. Smoke. Part of the cutter melted, and there was molten copper from the wire all over. Which I sand off when hardened.  In the end, I have another insulation stripper built-in, though not where I'd want it.

On a different topic, what a difference under magnification is this SOG from my Victorinox multi tools! The finish is far superior on the Vic models.


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #21 on: March 20, 2018, 02:00:02 PM
Nice little weld mark...

(Image removed from quote.)

 :ahhh
Whoa....
Looks like a 230VAC mark to me

I really hope whoever it was (who stuck it in a live circuit) was okay... I'd hate to think my favourite mt is possessed with the malevolent spirit of its previous owner! .... Have I got a haunted PST? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
You most definitely do.  :cheers:
Yup, and you're next on his hitlist Fuzzy.

Okay... well that might explain the black shadowy thing that keeps making appearances. It was at the bottom of my bed this morning when I woke up... I'm not kidding!

(Image removed from quote.)
You sure it wasn't the cat?
Could be an evil black cat.

Oh yeah... it's Piggy.  :doh:
« Last Edit: March 20, 2018, 02:01:18 PM by Fuzzbucket »


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #22 on: March 20, 2018, 02:03:39 PM
I have one word of advice for you

Non-Contact Voltage Tester! :oops:

SOG PowerAssist Meltdown
(Image removed from quote.)

Doing some wiring, and apparently I forgot to check the power.  Small explosion. Smoke. Part of the cutter melted, and there was molten copper from the wire all over. Which I sand off when hardened.  In the end, I have another insulation stripper built-in, though not where I'd want it.

On a different topic, what a difference under magnification is this SOG from my Victorinox multi tools! The finish is far superior on the Vic models.

Am... that's kind of four words really... well at least three...


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #23 on: March 20, 2018, 02:15:21 PM
Nice little weld mark...

(Image removed from quote.)

 :ahhh
Whoa....
Looks like a 230VAC mark to me

I really hope whoever it was (who stuck it in a live circuit) was okay... I'd hate to think my favourite mt is possessed with the malevolent spirit of its previous owner! .... Have I got a haunted PST? :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh
You most definitely do.  :cheers:
Yup, and you're next on his hitlist Fuzzy.

Okay... well that might explain the black shadowy thing that keeps making appearances. It was at the bottom of my bed this morning when I woke up... I'm not kidding!

(Image removed from quote.)
You sure it wasn't the cat?
Could be an evil black cat.

Oh yeah... it's Piggy.  :doh:
You're scared of that?!

I'd drag it in bed and snuggle :dd:


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #24 on: March 20, 2018, 03:00:28 PM
SOG PowerAssist Meltdown
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Doing some wiring, and apparently I forgot to check the power.  Small explosion. Smoke. Part of the cutter melted, and there was molten copper from the wire all over. Which I sand off when hardened.  In the end, I have another insulation stripper built-in, though not where I'd want it.

On a different topic, what a difference under magnification is this SOG from my Victorinox multi tools! The finish is far superior on the Vic models.
I am glad you didn't ger zapped too bad! It is always a wake up call when you burn a tool up or get zapped for sure.  Last year, I was swapping magnetic balasts to electronic ones at my work and got zapped with 277v, because the fixture was wired to the wrong rail and I forgot to check when I thought it was off. Nearly knocked me off the 12' ladder. :ahhh

Now, about that claim of Vic pliers being "far superior". There must be something wrong with that plier head. It is common knowledge that SOG makes some of the finest plier heads out there. The rust and corrosion on your PowerAssist pliers shows general lack of mantainance. I have attached a photo of a PA along side Vics's main two MT offerings (swisstool and spirit). It is apparent to me that the SOG plier head finish is actually slightly superior. Not too shabby considering the PowerAccess is $30 less than the Swisstool or Spirit and offers some very unique features.
Sorry to point that out, but I don't like to see claims that have no basis in fact that could be read and taken seriously by future MT enthusiasts.
On another note: try contacting SOG about getting a replacement plier head. Sometimes they'll do that and sometimes they won't(sinceit's not a defect). Depends on the rep you get to handle it.
SOG plier heads are a breeze to change out, unlike the Vic (can't swap plier heads on).
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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #25 on: March 20, 2018, 06:37:47 PM
Same here, I've electrocuted myself a couple of times. The last time I did it, I wasn't sure what just happened... so I touched it again!  :facepalm:

Interestingly, there's a blast mark on the large screwdriver of my pst where the previous owners contacted something rather beefy.... I hope they were okay!  :ahhh

something similar but even weirder happened to me. I got a used MP700 with the smallest flathead all banged, burned and marked from an electrical contact. Must've been scary, and half the piece was missing.
Then I opened the medium flathead and  :o  that had big burn mark and discoloration, and a big half moon chunk missing



I reground the smallest (unusable) to an awl and the medium to a kind of decent flathead, taking so much material.
The tool also lacked the rubber inserts, which guessing by the way the owner treated the tool, must've burned to ashes upon contacting an electrical wire, together with the flathead portion(s) and the owner's hand.  ???



I bet it was his widow selling the tool after that accident... :ahhh
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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #26 on: March 20, 2018, 07:42:16 PM
I hate when that happens  :ahhh
You should use insulated tools maybe.

Here's my old Knipex...







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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #27 on: March 20, 2018, 10:36:47 PM
I was going to make all kinds of nasty comments...


But decided to stay out of it... just glad you’re still alive.


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #28 on: March 21, 2018, 12:03:07 AM
^+1, what I thought as well.

A multi-tool is not best option when working around electrical current, on or off. Dedicated tools best option. 


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Re: Electrical work & SOG meltdown
Reply #29 on: March 21, 2018, 12:26:43 AM
Amen!

I do carry a Non Contact Voltage Ticker in my EDC tools too though for use with standard full sized tools in that pouch.

Better Safe than Smokey!

^+1, what I thought as well.

A multi-tool is not best option when working around electrical current, on or off. Dedicated tools best option. 


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