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First disappointment in my Outrider...

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First disappointment in my Outrider...
on: March 25, 2018, 11:46:07 PM
Took off today in search of hardware to mount a used toolbox in my truck. I decided to replace the weak lid struts, so I wanted to remove one to take into Tractor Supply Company with me for comparison. So I had grabbed my Outrider before I left the house.  The strut has the ball socket type connector and I needed to pop the clips out to remove it

Flipped the caplifter out as I use that on my other SAKs for prying purposes. I was shocked to realize how petite the Outrider’s caplifter is!  My Centurion dwarfs it and I think even my PX ‘s is bigger!




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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #1 on: March 25, 2018, 11:50:26 PM
Both the Outrider and Rucksack have those tiny little cap lifters. My Trekker cap lifter is a regular crowbar in comparison. And, yeah, the PX has a bigger cap lifter, too. Why? Save a bit of weight perhaps?

EDIT: just did a quick check. The Outrider's cap lift is about the same size as a Cadet's caplifter. Really?

I think the Cap Lifter on the SI is my favorite. Not as bif as the Trekker CapLifter, but has the semi-sharpened wire stripping section behind the driver part, and the driver is better squared off.

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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #2 on: March 25, 2018, 11:53:32 PM
I use that ALOT on my PX. Guess the Outrider goes back into its box.




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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #3 on: March 25, 2018, 11:55:21 PM
The Outrider has the 91mm bottle opener?  :think:
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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #4 on: March 25, 2018, 11:57:17 PM
Quote from: zrxoa1 on March 25, 2018, 11:53:32 PM
I use that ALOT on my PX. Guess the Outrider goes back into its box.

I wouldn't go that far. But I do wonder why the little Cap Lifter?
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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #5 on: March 26, 2018, 12:02:43 AM
Since they switched to only liner lock now the 2018 version of the outrider should have the large caplifter now. I haven't got the latest one to confirm though.  The slide lock and smaller tools are retired.
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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #6 on: March 26, 2018, 12:04:05 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on March 26, 2018, 12:02:43 AM
Since they switched to only liner lock now the 2018 version of the outrider should have the large caplifter now. I haven't got the latest one to confirm though.  The slide lock and smaller tools are retired.


Hmmm, might look into that. I wish they made the 111mm line in ALOX!!! 


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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #7 on: March 26, 2018, 12:04:57 AM
Quote from: zrxoa1 on March 26, 2018, 12:04:05 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on March 26, 2018, 12:02:43 AM
Since they switched to only liner lock now the 2018 version of the outrider should have the large caplifter now. I haven't got the latest one to confirm though.  The slide lock and smaller tools are retired.


Hmmm, might look into that. I wish they made the 111mm line in ALOX!!! 


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That would weigh like a small car!  :ahhh
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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #8 on: March 26, 2018, 12:05:29 AM
Quote from: Nix on March 25, 2018, 11:57:17 PM
Quote from: zrxoa1 on March 25, 2018, 11:53:32 PM
I use that ALOT on my PX. Guess the Outrider goes back into its box.

I wouldn't go that far. But I do wonder why the little Cap Lifter?

I use that too much. I’d be afraid of breaking that tiny tool!  LOL




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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #9 on: March 26, 2018, 12:06:34 AM
Quote from: Pablo O'Brien on March 26, 2018, 12:04:57 AM
Quote from: zrxoa1 on March 26, 2018, 12:04:05 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on March 26, 2018, 12:02:43 AM
Since they switched to only liner lock now the 2018 version of the outrider should have the large caplifter now. I haven't got the latest one to confirm though.  The slide lock and smaller tools are retired.


Hmmm, might look into that. I wish they made the 111mm line in ALOX!!! 


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That would weigh like a small car!  :ahhh


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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #10 on: March 26, 2018, 12:32:30 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on March 26, 2018, 12:02:43 AM
Since they switched to only liner lock now the 2018 version of the outrider should have the large caplifter now. I haven't got the latest one to confirm though.  The slide lock and smaller tools are retired.

 :ahhh

That is some cool news!

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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #11 on: March 26, 2018, 02:37:04 AM
Quote from: zrxoa1 on March 26, 2018, 12:04:05 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on March 26, 2018, 12:02:43 AM
Since they switched to only liner lock now the 2018 version of the outrider should have the large caplifter now. I haven't got the latest one to confirm though.  The slide lock and smaller tools are retired.


Hmmm, might look into that. I wish they made the 111mm line in ALOX!!! 


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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #12 on: March 26, 2018, 02:57:36 AM
The slider lock caplifter is about the same size as 91mm ones... surely looks petite in the 111mm frame... 93mm ones are bigger but not as big as the 111mm liner lock models... and the caplifter locks too...

Like what Syph said, since 2017 the slider-locks have been discontinued and the Outrider now comes in liner-lock... I would assume that the caplifter would be the same as those on any 111mm liner locks...

Haven’t seen one myself to do any comparison... Probably still a lot of old stocks left in the shops... 


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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #13 on: March 27, 2018, 04:52:18 PM
Quote from: zrxoa1 on March 26, 2018, 12:04:05 AM
Quote from: Syph007 on March 26, 2018, 12:02:43 AM
Since they switched to only liner lock now the 2018 version of the outrider should have the large caplifter now. I haven't got the latest one to confirm though.  The slide lock and smaller tools are retired.


Hmmm, might look into that. I wish they made the 111mm line in ALOX!!! 


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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #14 on: March 28, 2018, 01:54:57 AM
Wow that's a great looking Sentinel!
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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #15 on: March 28, 2018, 05:10:44 AM
Yeast I think it's rwl34 steel , not sure how well it stand up

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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #16 on: March 28, 2018, 05:17:06 AM
Yeah, I never understood the small cap lifter on the 111mm's...    I remember getting my first adventurer in the early 90's and thinking... "Hey this is just like my Tinker with a larger blade but no small blade"   I was just a kid at the time and stoked nonetheless.

The 93mm cap lifter is great... especially back in the day when it was beefier and less polished
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Re: First disappointment in my Outrider...
Reply #17 on: March 29, 2018, 04:25:16 AM
Just did a thread on the outrider comparison... :cheers:

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php?topic=76627.0


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