Wow, nice job putting those together! Im going to spend a little time delving into those, as some of them I hadn't seen before!
J-screw's unfinished super juice http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,19553.0.html
Im just as frustrated as you are that he hasnt finished his mod yet yud, but this is a little passive agressive.... Quote from: yud on April 03, 2016, 06:30:00 PMJ-screw's unfinished super juice http://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,19553.0.html
Nice job!That's us mobile
Great job! Whats the plan with your leftovers? Another juice mod?
Great job! I don't understand why LM doesn't produce more variations on the Juice line.
That looks really nice. Well done, and thank you for the detailed pics. Cheers,Pete
I suspect it is because the Juice line is leathermans least popular line if tools, because they are trying to compete with the same niche that SAKs already dominate. Plus, I know of only one store in the area (5th largest metropolitan area in the USA) that has any Juices (and they only have two in stock), so availability is probably an issue as well.
Leatherman have no one to blame but themselves for the Juice line not being more popular - they haven't made any meaningful changes to the line. They should add tweezers/toothpick/pin/pen to the scales and offer a pocket clip. Also, offer different tool combos, such as the one Yud created. I really like the Juice, it's well built and a very handy size.
Quote from: rdub934 on April 06, 2016, 09:35:20 PMLeatherman have no one to blame but themselves for the Juice line not being more popular - they haven't made any meaningful changes to the line. They should add tweezers/toothpick/pin/pen to the scales and offer a pocket clip. Also, offer different tool combos, such as the one Yud created. I really like the Juice, it's well built and a very handy size.The scales on the juice just cover the skeleton of the tool, there isn't any room for any removable parts without making the tool wider. The Juice Pro however, has a plastic spacer that is used to hold a tweezers. I think there is room for more of these without widening the tool that could hold a stick pin or a tooth pick, a pen however would be a more ambitious mod, but there is some genius modders around here. I have a few other ideas for some cool juice mods, but I would need someone else to do them or have an endless supply of juices to destroy as I learn how
Quote from: Paul DeBuhr on April 07, 2016, 08:49:07 PMQuote from: rdub934 on April 06, 2016, 09:35:20 PMLeatherman have no one to blame but themselves for the Juice line not being more popular - they haven't made any meaningful changes to the line. They should add tweezers/toothpick/pin/pen to the scales and offer a pocket clip. Also, offer different tool combos, such as the one Yud created. I really like the Juice, it's well built and a very handy size.The scales on the juice just cover the skeleton of the tool, there isn't any room for any removable parts without making the tool wider. The Juice Pro however, has a plastic spacer that is used to hold a tweezers. I think there is room for more of these without widening the tool that could hold a stick pin or a tooth pick, a pen however would be a more ambitious mod, but there is some genius modders around here. I have a few other ideas for some cool juice mods, but I would need someone else to do them or have an endless supply of juices to destroy as I learn howTrust me in comparison to taking the thing apart a scale mod is easy. You just have to have the skills to cut the grooves in the scales, the bigger problem is working out what goes where. But more to the point there is no reason that LM had to make the scales the way they did. They could of made them bigger to include scale tools or they could of added them other places. Also I don't think adding extra width to a juice is all that horrible.
Quote from: yud on April 07, 2016, 11:08:15 PMQuote from: Paul DeBuhr on April 07, 2016, 08:49:07 PMQuote from: rdub934 on April 06, 2016, 09:35:20 PMLeatherman have no one to blame but themselves for the Juice line not being more popular - they haven't made any meaningful changes to the line. They should add tweezers/toothpick/pin/pen to the scales and offer a pocket clip. Also, offer different tool combos, such as the one Yud created. I really like the Juice, it's well built and a very handy size.The scales on the juice just cover the skeleton of the tool, there isn't any room for any removable parts without making the tool wider. The Juice Pro however, has a plastic spacer that is used to hold a tweezers. I think there is room for more of these without widening the tool that could hold a stick pin or a tooth pick, a pen however would be a more ambitious mod, but there is some genius modders around here. I have a few other ideas for some cool juice mods, but I would need someone else to do them or have an endless supply of juices to destroy as I learn howTrust me in comparison to taking the thing apart a scale mod is easy. You just have to have the skills to cut the grooves in the scales, the bigger problem is working out what goes where. But more to the point there is no reason that LM had to make the scales the way they did. They could of made them bigger to include scale tools or they could of added them other places. Also I don't think adding extra width to a juice is all that horrible.The advantage of the Juice is that it packs a lot of good sized tools in a small package. Once you get beyond the KF4 size, the advantage of the Juice becomes moot. Might as well get a Rebar once you are going that big.
Quote from: sLaughterMed on April 06, 2016, 05:43:57 PMI suspect it is because the Juice line is leathermans least popular line if tools, because they are trying to compete with the same niche that SAKs already dominate. Plus, I know of only one store in the area (5th largest metropolitan area in the USA) that has any Juices (and they only have two in stock), so availability is probably an issue as well.Leatherman have no one to blame but themselves for the Juice line not being more popular - they haven't made any meaningful changes to the line. They should add tweezers/toothpick/pin/pen to the scales and offer a pocket clip. Also, offer different tool combos, such as the one Yud created. I really like the Juice, it's well built and a very handy size.
IMNSHO four layers is the sweet spot, not as bulky as the XE6/Pro, but with room for more functionality than the two-layer models. Yet the two models in that configuration were both poor choices for EDC. The CS4 is schizophrenic; it includes scissors and a corkscrew, typical of "suburban" EDC tools, but also a saw and awl, which are more for outdoor use. Likewise, the KF4 was poorly thought out, with not one but *two* knife blades, and again, a saw. Yet for some reason Leatherman declined to make a four-layer model with the sort of implements that are expected for a suburban / office EDC tool: *one* knife blade, that awesome diamond-coated file, scissors, bottle/can opener. (And of course the screwdrivers, duh.) It wouldn't have been difficult: take the CS4 and replace the saw with scissors; or take the KF4 and replace the saw or serrated blade with scissors and the opener. Worse, they killed off the KF4, rather than modifying it to be more useful. We'll never know now, of course, but personally I think a model like that would've sold well. After years of waiting for Leatherman to build it, I got tired of waiting, and made my own.Maybe somebody at Leatherman will see the light, and make an actual EDC Juice. Maybe…
This is a sadly a very common problem that shows up in far to many models (half the market for OPTs seems to do this, cram in tools that don't compliment each other).
Not falling for this trap might be one of the best parts of models like the MUT and Signal (or the Flair for that matter).
One more entry in the saga of my Juice, bocote scales.It only took me 9 months to finish them