MLCT Crony Passaround

Neil · **Reply #60 on:** December 16, 2008, 02:49:59 AM

Quote from: DaveK on December 16, 2008, 12:29:01 AM

No. I'm next

Not only does he arrive fashionably late to the party but now he's trying to queue hop!

You can have it next if you want

Neil

DoughDTD · **Reply #61 on:** December 16, 2008, 08:17:43 AM

There is a list enclosed with each part, just cross out your name and send it to the next guy on the list. If there is no next guy on the list, then PM me and I'll let you know who to send it to (meaning whether extra people added onto the end of the list, or if you're the last and you need to send it back to me).

-Dough

Poncho65 · **Reply #62 on:** December 16, 2008, 11:50:27 AM

I think that most of the guys on the Not US list

live in different countries and the ones that live closest would probably save on shipping if all the ones in each country got a look see before it left there respective country

Not prying just saying

Benner · **Reply #63 on:** December 16, 2008, 02:24:12 PM

Quote from: DoughDTD on December 16, 2008, 08:17:43 AM

There is a list enclosed with each part, just cross out your name and send it to the next guy on the list. If there is no next guy on the list, then PM me and I'll let you know who to send it to (meaning whether extra people added onto the end of the list, or if you're the last and you need to send it back to me).

-Dough

Ok, cool.

Benner · **Reply #64 on:** December 16, 2008, 02:25:10 PM

Quote from: Poncho65 on December 16, 2008, 11:50:27 AM

I think that most of the guys on the Not US list live in different countries and the ones that live closest would probably save on shipping if all the ones in each country got a look see before it left there respective country

Not prying just saying

It's only Mikko who doesn't live in the UK.

Neil · **Reply #65 on:** December 16, 2008, 02:27:27 PM

Actually Gareth is in Scotland, not that it makes any difference to posting anything. Just being a smart arse

Neil

DoughDTD · **Reply #66 on:** December 16, 2008, 05:30:57 PM

Quote from: Poncho65 on December 16, 2008, 11:50:27 AM

Not prying just saying

Well, if you WERE prying, you could use the Crony to do it! haha lame joke, but i couldnt resit.

You do make a good point, and I had thought about grouping geographically so everyone can save a little on shipping. So, if you guys want to change up the order a bit to save some money, just contact the guys you will be bumping down the queue and make sure theyre ok with it.

-Dough

Benner · **Reply #67 on:** December 16, 2008, 05:42:37 PM

Quote from: NKB on December 16, 2008, 02:27:27 PM

Actually Gareth is in Scotland, not that it makes any difference to posting anything. Just being a smart arse

Neil

Well smart arse, he is still in the UK isn't he.

Neil · **Reply #68 on:** December 18, 2008, 12:53:44 PM

Um, eh, well, ...yes. (smurf)

Neil

Benner · **Reply #69 on:** December 18, 2008, 01:04:56 PM

Quote from: NKB on December 18, 2008, 12:53:44 PM

Um, eh, well, ...yes. (Colorful Enunciation)

Neil

I finally outsmarted someone!

DaveK · **Reply #70 on:** December 18, 2008, 03:37:11 PM

Quote from: Benner on December 16, 2008, 05:42:37 PM

Quote from: NKB on December 16, 2008, 02:27:27 PM
Actually Gareth is in Scotland, not that it makes any difference to posting anything. Just being a smart arse

Neil

Well smart arse, he is still in the UK isn't he.

Just about!

Gareth · **Reply #71 on:** December 18, 2008, 03:40:19 PM

Just to confuse the issue my ancestry is English and Welsh. Hence the not very Scottish name. But last time I checked Scotland is still part of the UK.

DaveK · **Reply #72 on:** December 18, 2008, 03:43:06 PM

So, Hadrian's Wall. Good thing or bad thing?

Gareth · **Reply #73 on:** December 18, 2008, 03:49:47 PM

I suppose bad thing, if it were still up then I wouldn't be living in the lovely city I call home.

Neil · **Reply #74 on:** December 19, 2008, 12:43:12 AM

Quote from: DaveK on December 18, 2008, 03:43:06 PM

So, Hadrian's Wall. Good thing or bad thing?

Bad thing.

I fell down a Roman bog at Vindolanda and did my ankle in. Over two decades later its still weakened. Bloody Romans, bloody wall

Neil

BIG-TARGET · **Reply #75 on:** December 19, 2008, 01:38:05 AM

DoughDTD;
check your PM

Benner · **Reply #76 on:** December 23, 2008, 02:29:34 PM

Received the Crony today.

How long am I meant to be keeping it for?

Neil · **Reply #77 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:41:02 PM

Until you are:

a) bored of playing with it.
b) get bored of me asking where it is

I wouldn't want to post anything until the Christmas postal surge has died down.

Neil

Benner · **Reply #78 on:** December 23, 2008, 03:42:50 PM

Quote from: NKB on December 23, 2008, 03:41:02 PM

Until you are:

a) bored of playing with it.
b) get bored of me asking where it is

I wouldn't want to post anything until the Christmas postal surge has died down.

Neil

I was thinking that as well.

I'll give it a few days then.

DoughDTD · **Reply #79 on:** December 23, 2008, 07:32:42 PM

Yea, I think it's fair for a couple days or so, maybe a little longer for you due to the Christmas crazyness going on through all the shipments. Hope you enjoy it Benner, let me and us all know what you think!!!

-Dough

Benner · **Reply #80 on:** December 30, 2008, 09:45:22 PM

The Crony has been sent off today to it's next recipient - Neil.

Dough, I have tinkered with the order (hope you don't mind) so that it goes throughout England and then onto Scotland and then Finland. I forgot to put Dave on there though, so maybe Neil or Nick could send it on to him?

Thoughts on the Crony will be posted soon.

DoughDTD · **Reply #81 on:** December 31, 2008, 04:47:51 AM

Quote from: Benner on December 30, 2008, 09:45:22 PM

The Crony has been sent off today to it's next recipient - Neil.

Dough, I have tinkered with the order (hope you don't mind) so that it goes throughout England and then onto Scotland and then Finland. I forgot to put Dave on there though, so maybe Neil or Nick could send it on to him?

Thoughts on the Crony will be posted soon.

No problem man, the order changing doesnt bother me as long as everyone gets a chance. Lookin forward to your thoughts on it!!

-Dough

joebw · **Reply #82 on:** December 31, 2008, 06:08:12 PM

Hi Dough,

After several days to fiddle with and think about the Crony, I offer these thoughts,

1. I think the magnifying glass idea should be dropped. The reasons for this are I'd worry that a glass magnifer would break and that a plastic one would scratch from pocket carry. Additionally, if someone were to hammer the side of the Crony to loosen a reluctant nut or bolt, the magnifier could pop out.

2. I'd recommend moving the hex driver to where the magnifer hole is located and placing a hole of roughly 3/10's of an inch diameter where the hex driver currently is. This would serve for attaching a lanyard.

3. The wire gages seem like a feature with limited value. I am not sure how you plan to form these notches but having spent 41 years in the valve manufacturing business, these seem like a continuous source of quality problems. I also see this surface being hammered on to loosen nuts or bolts. That will ruin the gaging feature.

4. I put the bottle opener up against several different styles of bottle caps. I think the hook needs to be further away fromm where it is now or some caps may be too tall for it to get a good purchase.

All in all, I very much like the MLCT Crony and, depending up price, anticipate having a few of these living in different bags. Good luck with finishing this project.

Best regards - Joe

Benner · **Reply #83 on:** December 31, 2008, 08:38:12 PM

It's funny, because my opinion pretty much differs from Joe's in every way.

I really like the idea of the magnifying glass and really hope it is kept in the final design. I see it as being a huge part that no other tool of this type has and can see it being the part it is recognised by. "You know that Crony tool?" "What, that tool with the magnifyer in?"

I feel that the tool is thick enough (please keep it this way

) that the lens could be quite well protected by the rest of the tool. I would like to see the lens being larger though (which I am sure is the plan) and maybe the hex driver could be moved across slightly so this could be achieved.

I feel the wire guage is a fantastic idea

. Although this is a feature I would probably never use, I like the way how you have managed to gain a feature with it also acting as jimping for when using the wrench. I think it it certainly worth keeping hold of as I regard it as being something for nothing.

The bottle opener worked perfectly well for me (maybe the bottles I tried differed from Joe's) and I see no real need to change the design.

With regards to the rest of the tool, the prybar worked as it should and the wrench was functional as well. One thing I may change (and I have mentioned this to Dough already) is the length of the flat phillips driver. This I feel could be shortened without any loss of function (accept a shorter ruler) and would make it more pocketable. Dough may chime in here with a bit more reasoning of why to keep it this length though.

Overall I was pretty impressed. The prototype was not of the quality of the final product, but even despite this, I thought it was a great tool. I liked the weight of it and the thickness (please don't change that

) and I thought every part of the tool worked well and functioned as it should. Like I said though, I would probably prefer that phillips to be just a tad shorter. Oh, and PLEASE add the magnifyer!!

Thanks for the chance to handle the Crony Dough.

I would certainly be interested (cost and magnifying lens permitting

) in buying an example of the final product.

DaveK · **Reply #84 on:** January 01, 2009, 01:47:41 AM

I can't wait to see it

The discussion on the mag and other features has me hooked already.

eodtech · **Reply #85 on:** January 06, 2009, 06:55:58 PM

Excellent piece of work

Can't wait for the production to start

Tool sent to NY today via 1st class mail with DC

Benner · **Reply #86 on:** January 06, 2009, 07:00:52 PM

Where has the UK one got up to?

Neil · **Reply #87 on:** January 06, 2009, 10:10:51 PM

Packed ready for delivery to Dave tomorrow. I know I'm a hog but I wanted to put it in with some stuff I was sending him.

Apologies for the delay to those down the line.

Neil

DoughDTD · **Reply #88 on:** January 06, 2009, 11:52:32 PM

You're pennace for the delay will be to write up a detailed review on it for everyone to read

Hope you all are enjoying it!

-Dough

glorn · **Reply #89 on:** January 07, 2009, 02:45:22 PM

Perhaps the magnifier could be easily removed/replaced? This would not only solve the issue of potential damage under hard use (ie: hammering on the tool), it would also increase functionality to be able to remove it and use independtly of the tool.

If done right, the mag could be sized so as to match a common small compass brand, thus offering the user the option of compass, mag, or nothing at all.

Perhaps a retention ring of some kind with a single small screw to hold things together?

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