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What's the worst?

gb Offline Fuzzbucket

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #30 on: April 17, 2018, 02:22:21 PM
Second worst LM?  Micra.  Floppy scissors, silly little inside-only tools, crappy tweezers.  Weighs a ton and does nothing better than a Rambler. :twak:

Wave... Farmer... and the Micra!?!?!



« Last Edit: April 17, 2018, 02:24:10 PM by Fuzzbucket »


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #31 on: April 17, 2018, 02:24:08 PM
Second worst LM?  Micra.  Floppy scissors, silly little inside-only tools, crappy tweezers.  Weighs a ton and does nothing better than a Rambler. :twak:

Wave... Farmer... and the Micra!?!?!

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #32 on: April 17, 2018, 02:29:26 PM
Worst LM?  Wave.  No awl, too many blades, uncomfortable to hold, rubbish scissors, stupid little eyeglass driver.
You just wait until you start wearing glasses, then let us know how stupid it is. :pok: :D
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #33 on: April 17, 2018, 02:30:58 PM
This thread is like chickens jumping into a wood chipper. Ruffle them feathers. :rofl:
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #34 on: April 17, 2018, 02:32:50 PM
Worst LM?  Wave.  No awl, too many blades, uncomfortable to hold, rubbish scissors, stupid little eyeglass driver.
You just wait until you start wearing glasses, then let us know how stupid it is. :pok: :D

Yeah...!


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #35 on: April 17, 2018, 02:33:29 PM
Worst LM?  Wave.  No awl, too many blades, uncomfortable to hold, rubbish scissors, stupid little eyeglass driver.
You just wait until you start wearing glasses, then let us know how stupid it is. :pok: :D
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #36 on: April 17, 2018, 02:56:18 PM
 :rofl:
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #37 on: April 17, 2018, 04:44:13 PM
Leatherman:
The Skeletool is uncomfortable to hold in the hand, doesn't offer enough utility and is just kinda ugly. I also dislike the Rev for purposely gimping a good design platform to build on (Wingman/Sidekick) instead of improving it.

Gerber:
For me, everything made by Gerber is the worst. Everything I tried has felt like junk or a gimmick.

Victorinox:
No complaints here.

SOG:
I like SOG pliers frame and the gear multiplier on the older tools, the blades are pretty good. But every SOG model I've used has absolutely low quality tools. Using Victorinox and Leatherman tools give you a certain expectations of the tools and their actual usefulness. Sog tools fall way short. They hold back what could be some great multitools.


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #38 on: April 17, 2018, 07:00:13 PM
Dime

Powerduo

Own and use/used both of them

Any sterling silver SAKs are also too pretty to use
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #39 on: April 17, 2018, 07:29:32 PM
Swiss Bricks is one of the funniest things I've ever seen. Thanks for posting Chako, had a good laugh.


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #40 on: April 17, 2018, 07:35:09 PM
Anything from Protocol. The MSRP on those that I bought for $10 at a Tuesday Morning was like $30.  The fold-out pliers were too weak and the jaws started twisting with light jobs a PST would handle with no trouble. The blades were butter steel I couldn't get a good edge on, and the drivers didn't really function. Honorable mention goes to the Imperial Apex and Tradesman butterfly MTs--nothing on them worked, compared to the Irish Imperial knives I have--which are all great.


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #41 on: April 17, 2018, 08:06:29 PM
Any sterling silver SAKs are also too pretty to use

Lol... my sterling silver Minichamp mod is ond if my most used tools. Arguably I never take it out of the house, definitely not shying away from using it (in my shelf full of Classics I alwsys pick the sterling silver champ up...).
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #42 on: April 18, 2018, 01:52:29 PM
many have been said but...

LM "half-juice" series and most of their overpriced one piece tools, the Rev, the Freestyle and probably the Tread, the Signal seems like an unnecessary gimmick to me but I guess many folks see it useful and worth it  :think:
I doubt I'll ver have, get or gift one of the above

Gerber Bear Grylls and "Survival" stuff, maybe not junk but definitely overpriced and overhyped. Their Chinese MTs can be a true hit or miss (Dime, had 3 now 0 and couldn't be happier. Clutch, Splice are similar scheme), Steady and Suspension, and some of the oddities they've put throughout the years (Nautilus anyone?  ???)

Vic and Wenger overpricing of Limited Editions, and some odd things like the Wenger Business Tool and the aforementioned Swiss-Bricks, all overpriced and unnecessary and short-lived for a reason  :P

SOG's implement quality and QC failures/bad designs. They have the best plier heads and smoothes action but put garbage inside their handles,
and their tools have serious (and sometimes dangerous) gimmicks (assists, locks...) and failures
No need to mention the Powerduo here and some of their One Piece Tools (and the 50 SOG writings and wordings in all their stuff)

Some tools from CRKT that had potential but were forced to failure

Most gun branded multitools (Smith&Wesson, Browning, etc.) and their prices
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #43 on: April 18, 2018, 02:02:27 PM
The Taylor Brands Schrade Tough Tool is also something I will not get. I love my USA Schrade Tough Tool, and if I had two, I'd use one.
But the new ones, they're pretty bad.


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #44 on: April 18, 2018, 06:56:31 PM
Worst LM?  Wave.  No awl, too many blades, uncomfortable to hold, rubbish scissors, stupid little eyeglass driver.

I have owned 3 Leatherman Waves, and a Fuse with the same scissors as the new Wave, and in each case, they have been some of the best scissors I've ever had. And I'm left handed.

They cut soft material well, they cut thick and fiberous material well, and they even cut heavy plastic well. So...  :think:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #45 on: April 18, 2018, 07:13:52 PM
Worst LM?  Wave.  No awl, too many blades, uncomfortable to hold, rubbish scissors, stupid little eyeglass driver.

I have owned 3 Leatherman Waves, and a Fuse with the same scissors as the new Wave, and in each case, they have been some of the best scissors I've ever had. And I'm left handed.

They cut soft material well, they cut thick and fiberous material well, and they even cut heavy plastic well. So...  :think:

+1 love them LM scissors  :dd:
Substituted the rubbish scissors on my SOG with them, much much better  :salute: (top left in pic)



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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #46 on: April 18, 2018, 07:29:54 PM

Worst Leatherman
Original Super Tool : take a tool that bites into your hand when you grip it tight and make it bigger. So it bites you more.
Oh and then add a lock that you cant undo if you open all the tools on one side.

Worst Victorinox
Electrician : Remove the can opened and Philips driver from the awesome opener duo and replace it with a little blade.
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #47 on: April 18, 2018, 07:30:07 PM
Leatherman makes perfectly serviceable scissors. I think Victorinox and Wenger scissors are better in some models. The Surge scissors is excellent though but it's a very large tool. The worst scissor that Vic makes is on the Spirit, the design of that one is poor even if the scissor cuts well. The cutting area is way too small an area and opening for a tool of that size.

Still dreaming of Wave/Charge size with an outside slot for some cool redesigned Surge style scissors. That would be optimal.
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #48 on: April 19, 2018, 02:52:43 AM
Leatherman makes perfectly serviceable scissors. I think Victorinox and Wenger scissors are better in some models. The Surge scissors is excellent though but it's a very large tool. The worst scissor that Vic makes is on the Spirit, the design of that one is poor even if the scissor cuts well. The cutting area is way too small an area and opening for a tool of that size.
Still dreaming of Wave/Charge size with an outside slot for some cool redesigned Surge style scissors. That would be optimal.


Yes, please  :gimme:

The Surge scissors are awesome.


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #49 on: April 19, 2018, 03:14:04 AM
I don't understand the Flair being in this thread, because the only thing worse than the Vic combo tool is every single LM can opener and cap lifter except the Flair, and it has a functional corkscrew and nifty fork to boot! Who needs a hobo knife! :P

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #50 on: April 19, 2018, 03:16:40 AM
Glad I'm totally disinterested in the Micra now, I was curious for a while, thanks H.  :D


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #51 on: April 19, 2018, 03:18:46 AM
Not sure I agree about the limited edition Vics either, but then again I use mine!  :P


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #52 on: April 19, 2018, 03:36:01 AM
I don't understand the Flair being in this thread, because the only thing worse than the Vic combo tool is every single LM can opener and cap lifter except the Flair, and it has a functional corkscrew and nifty fork to boot! Who needs a hobo knife! :P

 :rofl:
Must be why it is LM's best seller and everyone's favorite MT. Oh wait... :pok:
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #53 on: April 19, 2018, 07:02:00 AM
I'll vote for the Freestyle. The Skeletool is basic but at least provides function for it's minimalism. The Freestyle takes it too far though.

I'd also mention the SAK's with USB stick. In principle it's a good idea but the weight hanging off a usb port isn't going to be good for it and the thing guarantees to be obsolete within a couple of years.

An interesting fail I recently found was the Victorinox nail clippers. They look great, pack nice and small for travel but require far too much leverage to actually cut anything, you have to push the lever almost all the way down which isn't comfortable to do. Really wasn't impressed.
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #54 on: April 19, 2018, 07:29:39 AM
Vise-Grip multi-pliers,  all three versions.  I own all of them, but the backward opening knife and the non-locking screwdriver make them dangerous to use and a huge fail for a major tool company.  :facepalm:
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #55 on: April 19, 2018, 07:58:44 AM
I'll vote for the Freestyle. The Skeletool is basic but at least provides function for it's minimalism. The Freestyle takes it too far though.

I'd also mention the SAK's with USB stick. In principle it's a good idea but the weight hanging off a usb port isn't going to be good for it and the thing guarantees to be obsolete within a couple of years.

An interesting fail I recently found was the Victorinox nail clippers. They look great, pack nice and small for travel but require far too much leverage to actually cut anything, you have to push the lever almost all the way down which isn't comfortable to do. Really wasn't impressed.

I actually find the freestyle very comfortable to use. Yes it just have a knife and a pliers. But people have to be aware of this when they go for it. The ergo of it as a knife is pretty nice in the hand. Pliers are ok-ish as a backup.


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #56 on: April 19, 2018, 12:03:21 PM
I don't understand the Flair being in this thread, because the only thing worse than the Vic combo tool is every single LM can opener and cap lifter except the Flair, and it has a functional corkscrew and nifty fork to boot! Who needs a hobo knife! :P

 :rofl:
Must be why it is LM's best seller and everyone's favorite MT. Oh wait... :pok:

No, that's the Wave, surely that's not mentioned in this thread?  :D


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #57 on: April 19, 2018, 01:46:51 PM
Glad I'm totally disinterested in the Micra now, I was curious for a while, thanks H.  :D

Many people, myself included, have the exact opposite opinion. I say the Micra is one of the best Leatherman tools in production, and probably the best keychain sized model.


Now get out your wallet  :pok: :pok:  :D


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #58 on: April 19, 2018, 01:52:04 PM
Worst LM?  Wave.  No awl, too many blades, uncomfortable to hold, rubbish scissors, stupid little eyeglass driver.
You just wait until you start wearing glasses, then let us know how stupid it is. :pok: :D

I've worn glasses for over 30 years and I think I can count on the fingers of one foot the number of times I've needed to adjust the screws.  Instead of wasting money on pointless multitools you lot should buy decent glasses. :pok:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #59 on: April 19, 2018, 01:52:35 PM
Glad I'm totally disinterested in the Micra now, I was curious for a while, thanks H.  :D

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