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us Offline gregpost

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #90 on: April 20, 2018, 01:37:09 AM
Seiko 5 series is a classic so many different and great designs over the years.


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #91 on: April 20, 2018, 02:23:18 AM
I don't have a personal pick for worst designed tools, but I will say that the design and release process of bringing something to market is almost impossible to get right the first time.

Any product you know and love is most likely the umpteenth (sounds high, but it is in the teens?) design phase of a product.

Whether the gremlins were sorted out during initial R&D, beta testing, or through multiple series of commercial releases (or all three) varies, but a team of top engineers with all the market research and unlimited money will still struggle to get the right product for the right market with all the right features first time.

I've always applauded CRKT for being willing to test the market with innovative (if not always successful) ideas.

I have less respect for brands that release products that it should seem obvious are poorly, or rushed designs to take advantage of a competitors release or simply cash-grabs. (SOG MACV seems like it might be one of the latter)


It is hard (seems to be random chance as much as anything else) to balance innovation and simplicity in a new design.

There's always someone (not necessarily just the marketing department, some designers are whacky too) that want to add more inane complexity, and there is someone who wants to just release the same product in a different colour.


"Ask the users!" you all cry?

as often as the users don't even know what they want until after they have it and have "tried" it for 6 months, the producers of the item don't even know who the users might be.

(anyone who says "release it in pink to increase sales to women" probably needs to go back to business school)



I just happen to be looking at my wrissmurfch at the moment (Seiko 5, for anyone wandering. Gear Nerds) - Do you know how hard it is to get a decent small size mens analog watch these days? Quite hard, I've found, because designers and marketers have no idea what I want.

Seiko released the "5" in the 60s, and it has not changed a great deal since. (SAKs are in a similar boat, and we all love those)

I've been distracted by some work stuff and forgotten my point.

Anyway, have some sympathy for designers and product engineers, and support those that are doing their best to engage with and support their customers, and also support tried and true designs that are doing what they are intended to do as well today as they were fifty years ago - otherwise some tit in sales and marketing will remove it from the product line.)

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #92 on: April 20, 2018, 02:03:29 PM
Anyone ever heard of the "Swissbeat MP3 player"?
No? Exactly my point.

I have one, brand new in the box:D



It's what you get when you compromise your core product and follow the lead of a sportswear manager.

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #93 on: April 20, 2018, 02:26:42 PM
It has fantastic scissors too, I don't see the problem. Yodeleh hee hooooo....

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #94 on: April 20, 2018, 02:33:18 PM
It has fantastic scissors too, I don't see the problem. Yodeleh hee hooooo....

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Do you aerobecise to it Twiglet? While yodelling?  :like:
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #95 on: April 20, 2018, 02:39:54 PM
It has fantastic scissors too, I don't see the problem. Yodeleh hee hooooo....

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Do you aerobecise to it Twiglet? While yodelling?  :like:

And 2 hours of ocean waves for meditation afterwards! Wonderful device...  :dd:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #96 on: April 20, 2018, 02:40:47 PM
Have you been watching me again?  :ahhh


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #97 on: April 20, 2018, 03:02:10 PM
Have you been watching me again?  :ahhh
Not directly. It would be like looking into the sun.
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #98 on: April 20, 2018, 03:13:33 PM
Yes, please keep your welding goggles in good repair. I have a Wave eyeglass screwdriver you can use.  :D


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #99 on: April 20, 2018, 03:15:22 PM
Yes, please keep your welding goggles in good repair. I have a Wave eyeglass screwdriver you can use.  :D
Please pop the entire Wave in the post then Twiglet. I need to tighten my goggles so I don't go blind during your next workout.  :ahhh
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #100 on: April 20, 2018, 03:39:57 PM
A radiation suit is on the way, the Wave is in the pocket along with some 450spf sunblock. The suit is heavy, might wear your anti-grav boots too. Lookin out for you bro...  :cheers:

There's a playlist too so you don't have to soundhound everything.  :salute:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #101 on: April 20, 2018, 03:45:59 PM
A radiation suit is on the way, the Wave is in the pocket along with some 450spf sunblock. The suit is heavy, might wear your anti-grav boots too. Lookin out for you bro...  :cheers:

There's a playlist too so you don't have to soundhound everything.  :salute:
Thanks Bro' I 'preciate it. Does the soundtrack have any Rockin' Debbie Gibson on it?
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #102 on: April 20, 2018, 03:47:42 PM
If I could fall into the sky
Do you think time would pass us by?
'Cause you know I'd walk a thousand miles
If I could just see you

 >:D
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #103 on: April 20, 2018, 03:49:34 PM
If I could fall into the sky
Do you think time would pass us by?
'Cause you know I'd walk a thousand miles
If I could just see you

 >:D
Vanessa Carlton is a pale imitation of the amazing Debbie Gibson who even has the rockingest of guitars named after her. Shame on you Pabs.
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #104 on: April 20, 2018, 03:52:43 PM
Only in your dreams Bro, and there is some wonderful Bieber stuff on there, lack of real talent is so motivating!  :tu:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #105 on: April 20, 2018, 03:53:33 PM
If I could fall into the sky
Do you think time would pass us by?
'Cause you know I'd walk a thousand miles
If I could just see you

 >:D
Vanessa Carlton is a pale imitation of the amazing Debbie Gibson who even has the rockingest of guitars named after her. Shame on you Pabs.
I don’t even know who she is.  :ahhh ::)
I was only trying to search for the song lyrics that I remembered seeing here: https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/ :D
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #106 on: April 20, 2018, 03:54:53 PM
Only in your dreams Bro, and there is some wonderful Bieber stuff on there, lack of real talent is so motivating!  :tu:
I liked the beginning of Zoolander 2 because of Bieber (or his fate, rather.  :whistle: )
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #107 on: April 20, 2018, 03:57:54 PM
If I could fall into the sky
Do you think time would pass us by?
'Cause you know I'd walk a thousand miles
If I could just see you

 >:D
Vanessa Carlton is a pale imitation of the amazing Debbie Gibson who even has the rockingest of guitars named after her. Shame on you Pabs.
I don’t even know who she is.  :ahhh ::)
I was only trying to search for the song lyrics that I remembered seeing here: https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/ :D
OMG - Pabs, you have mistaken a Vanessa Carltion song for 'I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)  by the Proclaimers  :twak:

Twiglet - You are constantly dazzling me with your mix-tape skillz - what could be better than keeping fit by trying to run away from the noise Bieber makes? Classic Twiglet!  :cheers: Thanks for keeping me on track Bro.
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #108 on: April 20, 2018, 03:58:29 PM
Isn't he wonderful Pabs? Really gets the adrenaline going!  :D


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #109 on: April 20, 2018, 03:59:49 PM
He was going to buy a house in Atlanta a few years ago, we didn't let him.  8)


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #110 on: April 20, 2018, 04:00:29 PM
If I could fall into the sky
Do you think time would pass us by?
'Cause you know I'd walk a thousand miles
If I could just see you

 >:D
Vanessa Carlton is a pale imitation of the amazing Debbie Gibson who even has the rockingest of guitars named after her. Shame on you Pabs.
I don’t even know who she is.  :ahhh ::)
I was only trying to search for the song lyrics that I remembered seeing here: https://what-if.xkcd.com/58/ :D
OMG - Pabs, you have mistaken a Vanessa Carltion song for 'I'm Gonna Be (500 Miles)  by the Proclaimers  :twak:

Twiglet - You are constantly dazzling me with your mix-tape skillz - what could be better than keeping fit by trying to run away from the noise Bieber makes? Classic Twiglet!  :cheers: Thanks for keeping me on track Bro.
Who are the Proclaimers? :facepalm:
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #111 on: April 20, 2018, 04:02:01 PM
It's Fuzzbucket and his twin brother Jizzbucket:
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #112 on: April 20, 2018, 04:05:38 PM
Before your time Pabs, back when one hit wonders ruled the airwaves. Be happy you weren't there. :tu:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #113 on: April 20, 2018, 04:07:37 PM
(Lynn looks around)

I see this thread has gone nicely off topic. Unprecedented in all of MT.O History, I say!  :rofl:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #114 on: April 20, 2018, 04:20:03 PM
:kirky:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #115 on: April 20, 2018, 04:23:41 PM
Love me do, there's an earworm for ya, ruined my childhood.  :whistle:


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #116 on: April 20, 2018, 04:26:15 PM
NO BEATLES EARWORMS!

You've overstepped the mark there Twiglet - The Beatles are the Worst! Ooooo, back on topic!
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Reply #117 on: April 20, 2018, 04:29:01 PM
Too far off the rails, my apologies, but damned motivating innit?  :D


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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #118 on: April 20, 2018, 04:30:22 PM
Innit just. I've got to stop running at some point though!
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Re: What's the worst?
Reply #119 on: April 20, 2018, 04:46:40 PM
Try booze, speeds things up a little at first, but with enough, some serious relaxation, and if your lucky, some Cream of Leftovers, or like we used to say on the bus, the Hot Lunch Special. (May cause side effects, consult a doctor for details, subject to availability, senior discount applies.)


 

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