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Is brass rod (under 3mm/ 1/8” ) considered “hard”?
Not sure what SOG would class as hard wire  :think:
Would be nice to find out what they class as hard wire
I will give Chris@SOG a email  :tu:
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I have left Chris@SOG a email
So hopefully I will get a reply  :tu:
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I believe things like that disappear the first time you use the saw?
I see them to a lesser extent with unused SAK saws.
Yup - they did :tu: (had to help a little at the very tip by way of judicious application of an X-Acto blade).

Saw works OK but it's short. I think it could have been made a bit longer, there is about 9 or 10 mm spare space in the handle. Makes one wonder...
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Since I have several SOG MTs, and am not worried about destroying this one, I used the PAD to cut a "10d" or "10 penny" cement-coated general carpentry/framing nail.  I had to apply a lot of pressure, so much that it hurt my hand and I had to glove up, but it cut the nail with no problem. The compound leverage pivot surely helped in this regard, and I consider it the best feature on any SOG MT.  I used the "hard wire" portion of the cutter, closest to the pivot, though SOG does not call it that.  No damage to the "soft wire cutter", and no deformation or loosening of the cutter/head/pivot.  [Edit:  see below; the PAD does have a hard wire cutter.]

A 10d nail is 9 gauge and 0.148" or 3.76 mm at the shank.

Why cement coated?  "Friction heat from driving the nail softens the cement coating and causes the nail to adhere to wood more firmly."  https://www.westlakehardware.com/frequently-asked-questions/what-is-the-advantage-of-cement-coated-nails/

So I say it passed this test.  My dynamic rating of the PowerAccess Deluxe went from 4/10 to 5/10.






« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 06:20:18 PM by powernoodle »
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Nice one powernoodle :cheers:
I thought you had damage to the pliers  :ahhh
But checked my PAD and it has the same cut out near the pivot
Never noticed that before, I take it that’s the hard wire cutter  :think:

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On the website, it shows that the PowerAccess Deluxe has a soft and a hard wire cutter.  Scroll down to the specs table.  So it looks like the box just doesn't set out all of the specifications.

https://www.sogknives.com/poweraccess-deluxe.html


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Excellent find powernoodle  :cheers:

This is from the SOG website

TOOL COUNT: 21

 1 1/4" Driver
 2 Awl
 3 Blade (Fully Serrated)
 4 Blade (Straight Edge)
 5 Bottle Opener
 6 Can Opener
 7 Chisel
 8 File (3-Sided)
 9 Flat Screwdriver (Medium)
10 Flat Screwdriver (Small)
11 Gripper
12 Hex Bit Driver (1/4")
13 Hex Bit Kit
14 Jewelry Driver
15 Needle Nose Pliers
16 Phillips Screwdriver
17 Protractor
18 Ruler
19 Wire Cutter (Hard)
20 Wire Cutter (Soft)
21 Wood Saw
« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 06:30:04 PM by Wspeed »
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The box also shows a wire crimper (see #18 in post 86), that is not shown on the website.  Intrigue! 


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The box also shows a wire crimper (see #18 in post 86), that is not shown on the website.  Intrigue! 
Excellent  :rofl: :rofl:
Check out the pic to see what we are talking about
I don’t know what to say  ???
I just can’t work out why they did that  :think:
« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 06:55:06 PM by Wspeed »
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PE blade on a4 was mediocre. Not as sharp as their dedicated knives. I suspected it wouldn't be very good from just feeling the edge.
SE blade did exactly what I expected. Tore the paper most of the time.

Disassembled a typewrite for repair work and used the jeweler's driver to remove key set screws. No issue there.

Nice to see the cutters work correctly. I am hesitant to cut nails with MT cutters. Galvanized bailing wire is usually the the hardest thing I cut with MT cutters.
Thank you for doing that, PN. :)
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The PE Blade is really sharp on my PAD
I can even shave hairs off my forearm  :tu:
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Day 1
I was able to cut post-it note paper with the PE blade on my Poweraccess, but it required light-medium sawing motion and sometimes ripped the paper. I should probably sharpen it.
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I stropped mine on leather and it helped a bit. Maybe it is similar to the saw issue DT had, where excess metal exists from the machining process. I should have checked under magnification first, but maybe you can Pablo? Just to see if there is a burr on the apex.
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At least that issue I have not found on my PE blade even under mag. There may be differences in QC...

Meanwhile we're on

Day 2

... where the PAD sees itself detailed to light gardening duties :salute:

But first, a beauty shot. The roses are doing really well this sprummer.

Next are various stray branches succumbing to the forceful action of the wire cutter and saw, respectively. The former's compund leverage made short work of the admittedly thin branch, and it can easily accommodate slightly thicker branches (up to wire cutter blade width, I guess). For thicker branches the latter does a good job, but sawable thickness is a tad limited due to its shortness. I suspect SOG have decided to forgo lengthening the PA saw just for the PAD, but unless Chris chimes in, I guess this will remain speculation.



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Day 2
As everyone was talking about the saw yesterday
I used the saw in the woods to cut a ivy vine as
These are killing our trees
I found one that was nearly 65mm / 2.5 inches
I would say that that is it’s limit
I don’t know why the saw is so short ?
Apart from that it is nice and sharp and cuts good :tu:
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you are all doing very good so far!  :salute:  I agree that the tool has some issues but can't say I'm surprised given SOG's new strategies and direction, hopefully the tool will get to the end of all your challenges!  :tu:

As for the wire cutters, the SOG has a hard wire cutter but I managed to dent my Powerlock cutting braided wire (relatively thin, 5 strands).



 I cut it with lots of effort, and while I originally placed the wire in the hard cutting notch it must've slipped out of it because it was too large for the notch, this I dented the normal softer cutting area  :facepalm:



Now I admit I should've been more careful but I really wasn't expecting that
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That’s a shame TP :ahhh :ahhh
Have you got a pic of the braided wire you cut  :tu:
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+1!

Side note on the protractor: on my PAD it is almost useless. From eyeball estimates I conclude the indices on the "30/60/180°" sides are off by tens of degrees and the indices do not align with the index on the handle, probably due to misprinting of the indices and/or misdrilling of the hole by which each hinge plate is fixed to the pivots. The "45/90/180°" sides are a bit better. When one index is at the 45° mark the other one is at 30°...  :facepalm:
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These - or similar - are the only hard wire cutters I trust not to deform.  I'm almost surprised when MT cutters don't deform.  They just are not made to the same hardness and precision as the real thing.

https://smile.amazon.com/Knipex-7401180-Leverage-Diagonal-Cutters/dp/B000X4OFTA/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1527963171&sr=8-2&keywords=knipex+hard+wire+cutter
« Last Edit: June 02, 2018, 08:36:55 PM by powernoodle »
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Day 2. Tried the saw out on some 1" dowels.  The shape of the saw was good for this type of cutting. Not too difficult to push and pull, with the most cutting done on the pull stroke. It does remove material on the push as well, just not nearly as much.
The large teeth didn't try to clog at any point cutting six of the dowel lengths. On the flip side, the large teeth can(and did) cause hand fatigue rather quickly. :ahhh
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Nice start, guys. Eager to join you in a couple of days!


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Thanks Nix  :cheers:
Have a safe trip and can’t wait to have you joining us :cheers:
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Day 3

Today I had to adjust the fan in the downstairs toilet
It stays on for 30 minutes after you leave the toilet
Which is to long  :ahhh
So today I used the jewellers driver
to turn the adjuster down to 10 minutes
The length of the driver helped as the adjuster is set far back in the fan :tu:
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the fan in the downstairs toilet
It stays on for 30 minutes after you leave the toilet
Which is too long  :ahhh

If you've ever had some of ThePeacent's cabbage and jalapeno casserole, you'll know that sometimes 30 minutes isn't enough. 


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the fan in the downstairs toilet
It stays on for 30 minutes after you leave the toilet
Which is too long  :ahhh

If you've ever had some of ThePeacent's cabbage and jalapeno casserole, you'll know that sometimes 30 minutes isn't enough. 
Good one  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :like:
I don’t think any fan would
be strong enough for TPs toilet  :rofl: :D
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Nothing person, TP.  Its that incredible Spanish cuisine.   :drool:


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Day 3

From the bathroom to a bedroom. Door handle retainer plate was reported loose. PAD to the rescue. The medium screwdriver on the cap lifter's end is not bad at all, sits well in the screw head slot.

Later tonight I shall use the cap lifter for its intended purpose :cheers:

Come to think of it, or rather of the can opener: I don't think I have any old-fashioned cans anymore, only those with quick-pull tabs... :facepalm:



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