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Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond? 1314

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Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #30 on: May 14, 2018, 01:20:03 AM »
Does this seem like accurate information to anyone reading this?
If so, I will ask for it to be added to the SakWiki.

54071 Vagabond, has screwdriver, not Phillips
54081 Manager, has Phillips
0.6373 Manager European market, has Phillips
56071 Vagabond US Model   <-----This is already in the SakWiki
Hero Member Posts: 875
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #31 on: May 14, 2018, 05:59:27 AM »
I have a Rover, Rogue and this custom Ti Minichamp... All have the the wire stripper on the flat sd combo.

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I lost out on a bid to the only 58mm model I saw without the wire stripper a while back :facepalm:


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The Rogue I have on my keys has the flat SD combo tool without wire stripper notch. I think I have some Rovers from a batch of 10 58mm auction knives that I wanted to make into Rogues that may have the notch. Can't remember. Rogue is my favourite 58mm Vic in preference over the Rambler
Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 6,844
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #32 on: May 14, 2018, 04:33:08 PM »
Flat SD vs Phillips (Combo Tool)

Rover - Rally
Rogue - Rambler
Mate - Vagabond
Global Moderator No Life Club Posts: 2,006
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #33 on: May 16, 2018, 04:33:47 AM »
I saw this thread when it first come out and thought to myself .... "- Yeah - Vagabond",  and promptly ignored it - until JM pointed me back here yesterday

This is an amazing discovery and research guys and gals - Well done and thank you so much to one and all
- Although it has done my head in somewhat  - Especially given the already rather confusing status of the Mate/Vagabond :think:

I have attempted to represent what you have found in the Wiki: Manager, Mate and Vagabond pages ....
I did use the tool list photo of the Vagabond Manager - Hope that is OK - Credited in the Wiki image upload
Please have a look and return comments/suggestions/issues here...

I am especially pleased for FB getting her original box - This must now be one of the best in the collection - as it has the right wrong name on it  !! :o    :D

« Last Edit: May 16, 2018, 05:47:22 AM by Huntsman »
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Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2018, 10:32:44 AM »
I have to add some entropy to this investigation..

Vagabond         (combo-tool with Phillips SD and wire-stripper, nail-file with SD)
https://leaf-vics.com/2014/11/032-vagabond.html

Vagabond II         (combo-tool with Flat SD and wire-stripper, nail-file with cleaner tip)
https://leaf-vics.com/2014/11/182-vagabond.html

Manager            (combo-tool with Phillips SD and wire-stripper, nail-file with SD)
https://leaf-vics.com/2014/11/097.html

Manager   II         (combo-tool with Flat SD and without wire-stripper, nail-file with cleaner tip)
https://leaf-vics.com/2017/11/615-manager-ii.html

Midnite Manager    (combo-tool with Phillips SD and wire-stripper, nail-file with SD)
https://leaf-vics.com/201.../110-midnite-manager.html

Midnite Manager II   (combo-tool with flat SD and wire-stripper, nail-file with SD)
https://leaf-vics.com/201.../096-midnite-manager.html
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Global Moderator Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 6,774 Ditchfinder General
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #36 on: May 16, 2018, 11:55:44 AM »
Gotta love Victorinox's naming conventions. :like:
Global Moderator No Life Club Posts: 2,006
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #37 on: May 16, 2018, 12:16:13 PM »
Conventions?   ???   :think:    :pok:

Although they are certainly into recycling  - Very green   ;)
No Life Club Posts: 3,154
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2018, 03:50:59 AM »
I saw this thread when it first come out and thought to myself .... "- Yeah - Vagabond",  and promptly ignored it - until JM pointed me back here yesterday

This is an amazing discovery and research guys and gals - Well done and thank you so much to one and all
- Although it has done my head in somewhat  - Especially given the already rather confusing status of the Mate/Vagabond :think:

I have attempted to represent what you have found in the Wiki: Manager, Mate and Vagabond pages ....
I did use the tool list photo of the Vagabond Manager - Hope that is OK - Credited in the Wiki image upload
Please have a look and return comments/suggestions/issues here...

I am especially pleased for FB getting her original box - This must now be one of the best in the collection - as it has the right wrong name on it  !! :o    :D
Thank you Huntsman for adding the information to the Wiki!  Yes indeed, I am pleased with getting the original box.  :tu:  :cheers: 
No Life Club Posts: 3,154
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #39 on: May 22, 2018, 06:20:57 PM »
Update:
I'm now the proud owner of the Vagabond in box that has it as a "Manager", plus the 54071 (formerly a Mate), in a box touting it as a Vagabond!
Special and sincerest of thanks go to member Boonies for gifting me his Vagabond in box.  :cheers:  :tu: Thank you Boonies!
Here they are:

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 17,473 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2018, 06:29:08 PM »
Update:
I'm now the proud owner of the Vagabond in box that has it as a "Manager", plus the 54071 (formerly a Mate), in a box touting it as a Vagabond!
Special and sincerest of thanks go to member Boonies for gifting me his Vagabond in box.  :cheers:  :tu: Thank you Boonies!
Here they are:
(Image removed from quote.)
(Image removed from quote.)

Very nice, FolderBeholder! Great new members for your collection!

 :cheers: :tu:

Also, well done, Boonies!

 :salute: :hatsoff:

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 17,473 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #41 on: May 22, 2018, 06:31:00 PM »
Another little quirk to this story.....evidently the cap lifter with flat tipped screwdriver was also available with the wire stripper notch at one time.  This from the warranty sheet tucked into the box....... :cheers:

Did anyone ever saw a straight pin like that straight pin?!

 :o :o

________________________________
It is just a matter of time before they add the word “Syndrome” after my last name.

I don't have OCD, I have OCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.

Eff the ineffable, scrut the inscrutable.

IYCRTYSWTMTFOT

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 5,751
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #42 on: May 22, 2018, 10:27:00 PM »
Update:
I'm now the proud owner of the Vagabond in box that has it as a "Manager", plus the 54071 (formerly a Mate), in a box touting it as a Vagabond!
Special and sincerest of thanks go to member Boonies for gifting me his Vagabond in box.  :cheers:  :tu: Thank you Boonies!
Here they are:


Nice SAKS FB! :like: :tu: :tu:
Full Member Posts: 212
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2018, 01:21:12 AM »
Great thread!

What I think most likely occurred is that the Mate/Vagabond model, rather than being two separate models, was always the same one.
The switch from flat screwdriver tip to a Phillips one was simply a design update.
As for the name, the model was at first labelled as Mate, then they changed the name (and identifier number accordingly) to Vagabond, while the first variation with flat screwdriver tip was still manufactured.
Additionally, at one point while the third variation (with Phillips) was produced, the model name changed again to Manager.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2018, 01:51:35 AM by shadowrider »
Global Moderator No Life Club Posts: 2,006
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2018, 02:42:29 AM »
Another little quirk to this story.....evidently the cap lifter with flat tipped screwdriver was also available with the wire stripper notch at one time.  This from the warranty sheet tucked into the box....... :cheers:
Did anyone ever see a straight pin like that straight pin?!
 :o :o

Just spotted another funny on that tool leaflet......

The  "REAMER W/SEWING EYE"    ......  does not have a sewing eye !!

« Last Edit: May 23, 2018, 02:46:12 AM by Huntsman »
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 17,473 Oxygen and magnesium toghether?! OMg!
Re: Is this 58mm a Manager or Vagabond?
« Reply #45 on: May 23, 2018, 02:34:31 PM »
Another little quirk to this story.....evidently the cap lifter with flat tipped screwdriver was also available with the wire stripper notch at one time.  This from the warranty sheet tucked into the box....... :cheers:
Did anyone ever see a straight pin like that straight pin?!
 :o :o

Just spotted another funny on that tool leaflet......

The  "REAMER W/SEWING EYE"    ......  does not have a sewing eye !!

Also, it looks like Deadpool!

 :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

________________________________
It is just a matter of time before they add the word “Syndrome” after my last name.

I don't have OCD, I have OCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ.

Eff the ineffable, scrut the inscrutable.

IYCRTYSWTMTFOT


 

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