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[The_Raven]

 



What have we here?!

The guys are awl excited

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LM Rebar! (Let's face it, you're not surprised. . . )


The gang's awl here.

[The_Raven]

 



What is this?!

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AWWW YEAH!! 



Strike a pose!



Photo Op.

[Douglas]

 
Good picks and picks (pictures) there. 
Now I just wonder what will be next in your 

[gerleatherberman]

Nice stuff, The_Raven! Got to love the MiniChamp. Goes well with any plier-based MT! 

[The_Raven]

Thanks guys, I'm pretty pleased with them 

Marks my first SAK and Leatherman   

[gerleatherberman]

Nice picks for both LM and Vic! Oddly enough, the MiniChamp and Rebar are extremely complementary to each other. 

[Dutch_Tooler]

Nice picks for both LM and Vic! Oddly enough, the MiniChamp and Rebar are extremely complementary to each other. 

+1 - glad you found a well matching pair of tools

[Exeter]

Great choices, great combo!  I'm pretty sure you won't regret going with the Rebar and hopefully the Minichamp will serve you well too (but aren't the scissors a bit small?)!

First impressions?

[Don Pablo]

Nice Minichamp and Rebar! 

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[Don Pablo]

Great choices, great combo!  I'm pretty sure you won't regret going with the Rebar and hopefully the Minichamp will serve you well too (but aren't the scissors a bit small?)!

First impressions?

58mm Vic scissors can do almost anything the 91mm ones can, IMHO. 

[Exeter]

Great choices, great combo!  I'm pretty sure you won't regret going with the Rebar and hopefully the Minichamp will serve you well too (but aren't the scissors a bit small?)!

First impressions?

58mm Vic scissors can do almost anything the 91mm ones can, IMHO. 

The one on my Classic always felt a bit flimsy, but I love the 91 mm ones. (For me a SAK is not a SAK if it doesn't have scissors, or at least it rarely gets pocket time.)

[gerleatherberman]

If we consider ALL scissor tasks, then no, the 58mm cclass scissors can't compete with the 91mm class scissors.
But, for mundane everyday snip-snip of small stuff, the 58mm class scissors are pretty boss.

[Old man Chris]

On the subject of drivers , just a few reccomendations , as on tool drivers , are pretty much casual use only.

a) Klein makes a folding 10 in one driver , that takes the same bits as the well known 11 in one tool

b)Stubby 1/4 hex magnetic drivers , work well with the Leatherman Bit extender , making a powerfull portable driving system . Whia , and Wera male some god drivers , made in Germany , and the Chech. Republic , not offshore Chinesium junk . Whia also makes a superb little 1/4” hex ratchet , it interoperates well with the Leatherman bit extender , and will handle , both Leatherman , and standard 1/4” bits ( shown below ) .The Venerable Klein Electrician’s scissors work pretty well for straded low voltage wire , for both stripping and cutting .

Best Regards,

Chris

[Syncop8r]

I also desire outside access to tools if at all possible, I'm not a fan of having to open the tool for access.

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[Exeter]

I also desire outside access to tools if at all possible, I'm not a fan of having to open the tool for access.

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But he also stated that "I want an MT that is versatile. It has to be a pocket carry, as a belt holster no longer fits into my repertoire. I want a good set of pliers."  - sounds like the Rebar to me. 

[Old man Chris]

Well the best outside access prize , among plier based Multi’s would go to the Spirit ! plus best implement quality , and implement density .

Best Regards ,

Chris

[Douglas]

If we consider ALL scissor tasks, then no, the 58mm cclass scissors can't compete with the 91mm class scissors.
But, for mundane everyday snip-snip of small stuff, the 58mm class scissors are pretty boss.

With the exception of cutting zip ties, I would rather have Vic's 58mm scissors than the Spirit scissors.  The Spirit scissors are great for cutting Zip ties and do work on everthing else I just like the traditional Vic design better, even the diminutive 58mms

[gerleatherberman]

If we consider ALL scissor tasks, then no, the 58mm cclass scissors can't compete with the 91mm class scissors.
But, for mundane everyday snip-snip of small stuff, the 58mm class scissors are pretty boss.

With the exception of cutting zip ties, I would rather have Vic's 58mm scissors than the Spirit scissors.  The Spirit scissors are great for cutting Zip ties and do work on everthing else I just like the traditional Vic design better, even the diminutive 58mms

Don't get me started on the Spirit scissors. Mediocre scissors on a LM, SOG, Gerber, etc. are acceptable(with exception of the Surge scissors - those are top-notch for the form factor). But, with Vic having led the way in little scissors for decades and decades, there is no excuse for the Spirit X scissors being so lame.
Now, please don't get me wrong, I'd rather have the Spirit scissors than no scissors at all. 
All Vic needs to do is design next year's Spirit with scissors more like the 91mm class(and maybe do something about the cutters and use barrel screws instead of rivets). /rant

[Old man Chris]

 

If we consider ALL scissor tasks, then no, the 58mm cclass scissors can't compete with the 91mm class scissors.
But, for mundane everyday snip-snip of small stuff, the 58mm class scissors are pretty boss.

With the exception of cutting zip ties, I would rather have Vic's 58mm scissors than the Spirit scissors.  The Spirit scissors are great for cutting Zip ties and do work on everthing else I just like the traditional Vic design better, even the diminutive 58mms
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Some Crazy fella over on Blade Forums , bought a bunch of TSA seizeure SAK’s , ant torture tested Classic Scissors , apparently the will cut up to 12 AWG solid copper wire , without obvious damage . Ive never tried to duplicate the feat , as I rather like my 58mm’s .

Best Regards ,

Chris

[Douglas]

If we consider ALL scissor tasks, then no, the 58mm cclass scissors can't compete with the 91mm class scissors.
But, for mundane everyday snip-snip of small stuff, the 58mm class scissors are pretty boss.

With the exception of cutting zip ties, I would rather have Vic's 58mm scissors than the Spirit scissors.  The Spirit scissors are great for cutting Zip ties and do work on everthing else I just like the traditional Vic design better, even the diminutive 58mms

Don't get me started on the Spirit scissors. Mediocre scissors on a LM, SOG, Gerber, etc. are acceptable(with exception of the Surge scissors - those are top-notch for the form factor). But, with Vic having led the way in little scissors for decades and decades, there is no excuse for the Spirit X scissors being so lame.
Now, please don't get me wrong, I'd rather have the Spirit scissors than no scissors at all. 
All Vic needs to do is design next year's Spirit with scissors more like the 91mm class(and maybe do something about the cutters and use barrel screws instead of rivets). /rant

EXACTLY MY PIONT!! 
But you realy should try them on zip ties.  That is where they really shine.

[gerleatherberman]

I know what you mean, Douglas. They work well on stuff that can fit in the tiny opening. They work quite well for fingernails too(not as good as 91mm scissors though).

[Douglas]

I can't stand using them on my fingernails.  Now the ol'school Vic scissors of any size are the way to go on the nails.

[The_Raven]

Exeter - right now I am loving both of them. It is taking me a little to get used to the way the leatherman opens (all of my previous MT's had a much more fluid open) but the size is pretty near perfect, and everything feels quality. I did get it used, but all of the blades still have a really sharp edge (it actually looks great for being used) I haven't had a chance to take it through the paces yet, but when my schedule slows down, I plan on really testing it out.

The SAK is great! I love the snap of the tools, and it too is extremely sharp. I don't feel that the scissors are flimsy at all. Diminutive, yes, but they feel stiff (in a good way) and effective. And I have definitely tested them on the ole nails already. I'm really glad I got the minichamp II with the pen. That is such a useful feature!

Chris - I have actually been looking at weras for quite some time now.I'll probably get one for my secondary EDC. These two new tools are my current primary (on body) but I'm actively setting up a small tool kit that I'll carry in my bag as a secondary EDC. Also, the spirit does sound great, but also more than twice as much (especially since I couldn't find any used ones at a comparable deal to what I got with ) I do still want to get one eventually, though. But the rebar hit enough of my checklist at a far lower price point, so it got first attention.

So far guys, I'm loving it all!  Now I'm working on a pocket organizer for carrying them.

[The_Raven]

One thing I need to do now is find a good price on that bit set that has the adapter that fits the Phillips screwdriver

[Old man Chris]

One thing I need to do now is find a good price on that bit set that has the adapter that fits the Phillips screwdriver

They aren’t hard to find , IIRC , they aren’t very expensive , no clue who could give you the best price , where are you located.

I used to have several , sady , I gave them away to mostly undeserving people . If I had one it would be yours .

Chris

[Exeter]

One thing I need to do now is find a good price on that bit set that has the adapter that fits the Phillips screwdriver

I guess you should just buy a $10 Chinese multitool off Amazon that comes with that type of bit set and adapter. Use the bits, throw the tool in a drawer, garage, car trunk, whatever, or give it to someone. I wanted to say buy a Ganzo MT, but after looking around in the past few minutes I see that they've gone up in price lately.

[The_Raven]

Yeah, so far I'm seeing mainly $20 or so for such a multi tool. At that price I almost might as well buy the Leatherman bit adapter. And I'm located in the Midwest, USA.

[Exeter]

Yeah, so far I'm seeing mainly $20 or so for such a multi tool. At that price I almost might as well buy the Leatherman bit adapter. And I'm located in the Midwest, USA.

You know what? I'm away from home right now, but I think I have three of those adapters - and I think thats the key part, standard bits are easy to find and you can arrange your own set -, so if you can wait till next week, I can send you one.