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SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test

fi Offline Antti Lammi

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SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
on: August 21, 2018, 12:36:56 PM
Right before test begin im gonna tell testing bit. Im gonna try do with both tools same job and see how these gonna make test. Every test include least 2 diffrent job and offcourse i try do gonna reply same test 3-5 times to get good result.

Heres test what im gonna make
 1. Blade / Serrated Blade
 2. File
 3. Saw
 4. Can opener / Wire Stripper
 5. Phillips
 6. Flatheads
 7. Awl
 8. Pliers / Cutters
 9. Overall
 10. Test results

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #1 on: August 21, 2018, 12:46:18 PM
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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #2 on: August 21, 2018, 01:37:23 PM
1. Blade / Serrated Blade

This test included carving wood, cutting plastic and cutting nylon rope.

Straight Blade
Carving wood was easy for both tools. ST300 has longer blade and longer cutting edge.
Rebar is comfort to use but shorter cutting edge annoys little bit when trying to carve.
Cutting plastic and nylon rope was easy for both.

Serrated Blade
Rebar serrated blade is round edged so and ST300 is sheepfoot edged but it doesnt affect on use only when closing. Rebars blade is comfort to close compared to ST300 blade. Again ST300 has longer cutting edge and has better perfomance but Rebar is much more comfort to use
Cutting rope with both tools is pretty easy and equal. Cutting wood is easier with ST300 but again Rebar feels better in hand.
 

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #3 on: August 21, 2018, 01:43:39 PM
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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #4 on: August 21, 2018, 02:22:18 PM
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Thanks for the continuing the review, Antti! The size difference surprises me every time again.


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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #5 on: August 21, 2018, 02:24:02 PM
2.File

First impression about Rebars File is that it looks and bit feels like cheap but it is actually really good file. I filed wood and some steel nails and it performed very good but not good as ST300 file. Using Rebars file is comforter than ST300 file cause Rebar is smaller.

ST300 file feels much sturdier than Rebar file and it performed bit better. ST300 feels good when in hand but not good as Rebar but when using more force then ST300 takes win easily.

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #6 on: August 21, 2018, 02:36:09 PM
I agree, the Rebars file is definitely not it’s strong point or anything to write home about


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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #7 on: August 21, 2018, 02:39:33 PM
3.Saw
Like Rebars file, saw looks and feels first cheap but does job pretty good.

Sawing wood and pvc there wasnt much differ in use only noticeable was size of saws and how those feels in hand.
Perfomance with both saws was good but ST300 takes win cause it feels in better in hand. ST300 feeled much better while sawing.
Also one noticeable mention is opening saws. Rebars saw is close to handle and theres tiny edge what prevents pushing saw closer to handle and its hard to take out ( i mean harder than any other tool on Rebar)

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #8 on: August 21, 2018, 02:53:05 PM
Good review, AL!  :multi:


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Reply #9 on: August 21, 2018, 03:05:49 PM
I agree (again), I too found the saw in the Rebar extremely awkward to grab and fold out.

It honestly feels like it was added to the Rebar as an afterthought, rather than designed with a saw feature in mind


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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #10 on: August 21, 2018, 03:07:57 PM
this is interesting. i wonder if hand size would factor greatly in the comfort
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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #11 on: August 21, 2018, 03:08:39 PM
Surprised with the size difference  :like:
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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #12 on: August 21, 2018, 03:42:41 PM
4. Can Opener / Wire Stripper

Can opener in Rebar and ST300 does job but i still hate to use can opener in tools cause it slow and clumsy with them.
 Wire stripping perfomance was good with both tools but Rebar feeled more comfortable hand when stripping wire.

I could say that can opener is most useless tool in Leathermans it does job, but honestly who use it volunteerly.
Wire stripper in otherhand is useful and i personally use it much more than can opener

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #13 on: August 21, 2018, 03:46:01 PM
this is interesting. i wonder if hand size would factor greatly in the comfort
I think it will factor in comfortness but it greatly depends what are you doing with tools.

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #14 on: August 21, 2018, 03:47:28 PM
I like using the can openers on multitools. Not efficient, but fun.   :facepalm:
And the more you practice the easier it becomes.  :multi:


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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #15 on: August 21, 2018, 03:52:44 PM
5. Phillips

Rebars phillips head is same size as ST300 but its shorter. But i was suprised how small screws with these could screw. I mean literally small ones and bigger ones. Only why ST300 takes win over Rebar is lenght of it. Both are superb to use and feels comfort to use.
I can pressure to both tools easily and i didnt notice much difference when screwing diffrent screws. Only on a long run Rebar takes win cause it lighter than ST300.

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #16 on: August 21, 2018, 03:54:57 PM
I like using the can openers on multitools. Not efficient, but fun.   :facepalm:
And the more you practice the easier it becomes.  :multi:
Yea it becomes easier but i still rather use dedicated can opener than multitools can opener. Can open is good to scraping and making marks but not so good opening cans

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #17 on: August 21, 2018, 03:58:19 PM
I also like the saw on the Rebar.

I can't say I've used it a lot, but it seems to work well. The ST gives one a bit more saw, which is nice, but the Rebar saw is as good as the saw on the Vic Farmer or Camper.

I didn't remember the saw being difficult to access, so I went a pulled out my Rebar. I guess you guys are right in that the saw is buried in the handle, but I can easily grab the nail nick with my right hand while holding the Rebar in my left.

My only complaint would be that the Phillips driver still 'clumps' and deploys with the saw when I pull the saw out.
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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #18 on: August 21, 2018, 03:58:53 PM
When we broke the kitchen can opener
All we used for Two weeks was the Supertool can opener
By the end of it we were getting good at using the opener  :tu:
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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #19 on: August 21, 2018, 04:00:14 PM
In all my time of carrying LMs, I think I have only ever used the can opener once while I was out camping somewhere just to give it a try, and found it to be poking holes next to each other rather than cutting the can open, maybe with practice one can get better at it, and maybe in an emergency survival situation it will be handy, but I have never really found any real need for it.....even when I have tried to use it as a bottle opener, all it did was just poke a hole in the bottle cap, and I had to use the pliers to get the cap off.....but all that is possibly also more caused by operator skills (or lack there of  :rofl: )

My Kick, Charge, and Rebar all had the same can opener with the wire stripper and the OHT has one that doesn't have a wirestripper in it, none of which has ever seen any use.
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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #20 on: August 21, 2018, 04:14:56 PM
I like using multi-tool can openers. :like:  :pok:
I do not find it a long and uncomfortable process at all. And most multi-tools have decent, if not great can openers.
It is arguable whether or not the can opener as an implement is out-dated, but that applies to all implements. Scissors, serrated blade, file, saw, you name it. Some people want it, some people don't.


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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #21 on: August 21, 2018, 04:20:55 PM
Great testing Antti :tu: 2 very great tools and as you said the toolset is the same so it is a very great comparison  :like: :popcorn:


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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #22 on: August 21, 2018, 04:32:49 PM
6. Flatheads

Rebar has only 2 flatheads vs ST300 3 flatheads.
Rebar has 1 med sized and 1 small flathead. Both was good to use but in my own opinion large flathead would be better if little bit thinner, it cannot go same flathead screw as ST300 same sized flathead. Small flathead is good when used it.

ST300 has 3 flatheads 1 large, 1 med sized and 1 small flathead and all of those are desinged well med sized goes better in flathead screws than Rebars.

Win goes to ST300
There wasnt much differ in comfort when screwing few screws but in a long run Rebar takes again win cause its lighter to use.

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #23 on: August 21, 2018, 05:21:16 PM
7. Awl

Well i used awl to make holes in wood and metal can. Both perfomanced good but somehow it felt that ST300 was better when making hole on wood. Rebar awl made smaller hole in wood. I didnt test sewing property of awl cause i dont have spare leather pieces anymore.

Looking closer on awl you can see little line on ST300 awl other side and Rebar has plain other side. There was no difference in comfort when using awl both tools felt good in hand

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #24 on: August 21, 2018, 05:35:24 PM
8. Pliers

Well both have changable cutters so theres no much difference only how much force you can add to them. Steel nails and hard wires were cutted during test an id say winner is ST300 cause i can add much more force on cutters to cut so it makes cutting easier.

Pliers on both has snubnosed plierheads tho Rebars has smaller version of ST300 pliers and has much rough teeth than ST300. Its easier to grab nuts and bolts on Rebars pliers head but if need more steadier pressure on things then ST300 has better pliers.
Rebar pliers opens bit wider than ST300.

I can say ST300 takes win on overall on pliers cause it desinged for raw power use.


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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #25 on: August 21, 2018, 05:47:48 PM
Great review, Antti! :like: :like:

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #26 on: August 21, 2018, 06:19:30 PM
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Reply #27 on: August 21, 2018, 06:28:05 PM
Excellent job indeed sir!

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #28 on: August 21, 2018, 06:30:50 PM
9. Overall

Lets look both tools seperatly

First Rebar. I really had my doubt about this but i got really positive surprise. Its small brother of ST300 and desing is pretty much same as ST300 but smaller size. Only difference beside size is that Rebar has 1 tool less than ST300 and some tools may look and feel first cheap but those tools in use make you think that those are superb tools.
Compact size makes it easy to carry.
One missing feature is pocket clip what could make Rebar allmost perfect tool. I could choose Rebar anyday over many other tools if i dont need to carry SuperTool 300.

SuperTool 300
This tool has excellent reputation and i dont anymore wonder why. Tools are just awesome and it may miss few features what example Surge offers but SuperTool 300 doesnt need them.
This tool can replace many tools in your toolbox easily cause tools are just so great. Its not easy to carry pocket cause size of it. If you really need tool that can handle tough jobs then choice is gonna be SuperTool 300

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Re: SuperTool 300 vs Rebar test
Reply #29 on: August 21, 2018, 06:44:57 PM
10. Test Result

If we look winner of this test its ST300 but not so big difference but long run use Rebar takes win.

This test has proven me that Rebar is excellent tool, it can handle same jobs easily as SuperTool but has few cons. Rebars perfomance was really good and its much lighter to use, so in long run in use Rebar takes win cause of lightness.
I dont regret saying that you wont go wrong getting yourself Rebar over ST300 its cheaper and smaller but perfomance is allmost same as SuperTool 300.

Rebar is proud small brother of ST300 and its greatly underrated tool for no particular reason.

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