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Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?

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Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
on: October 08, 2018, 01:57:49 AM
As the title implies, I have been looking for a BY Alox Pioneer made in 1959. I have been looking for years almost every single day and I have never seen one. Any members here have an example to put my mind at ease?

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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #1 on: October 08, 2018, 02:19:50 AM
I believe that the 93's were introduced in '57, but a BY would imply a dated blade, and that would be a Soldier/SI and those started in 1961. 
Your BY would be a wood fiber scaled Soldier/SI.
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #2 on: October 08, 2018, 02:23:16 AM
In very short : Maybe but that's highly unlikely, and it wont be an offical soldier knife.

Bit longer:
-maybe on a "prototype" or an army-testing unit from when the model 61 was in the process of being approved for army usage. If one existed with a 59-stamped blade it could very well have been maimed or destroyed in the rough testing.
-maybe surplus blades from '51 models were put into very early Pioneer knives (not sure about compatibility) but that would be extremely difficult to find.
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #3 on: October 08, 2018, 02:39:54 AM
Thank you folks, that explains my difficulties in finding one. I had assumed that since Alox was launched in 1957 the tangs had been stamped from 57 onward.

Wood fibre it is!  :climber:
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #4 on: October 08, 2018, 03:22:33 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 02:39:54 AM
Wood fibre it is!
From 1959 there are also model 1951 Wengers with Grilon scales. Better material IMO.

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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #5 on: October 08, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Oh, nice one. This is getting interesting!

Are the tangs stamped with the year date on those Wengers?
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #6 on: October 08, 2018, 04:08:13 PM
Your birth year SAK marked with your year will be the fiber one.
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #7 on: October 08, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Are the tangs stamped with the year date on those Wengers?
Yes.
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #8 on: October 08, 2018, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: smiller43147 on October 08, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Are the tangs stamped with the year date on those Wengers?
Yes.
Indeed. Here are some pics of such a 1959 Grilon Wenger.
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #9 on: October 08, 2018, 06:20:01 PM
Quote from: MiniChamp on October 08, 2018, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: smiller43147 on October 08, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Are the tangs stamped with the year date on those Wengers?
Yes.
Indeed. Here are some pics of such a 1959 Grilon Wenger.
I was showing my brother a 1957, his birth year, Grilon scales on eBay a couple of days ago...sold for right at $190.00. Was nice for sure!
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #10 on: October 08, 2018, 06:25:47 PM
Thank so much for the pics and guiding! I am now on the look out!  :climber:
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #11 on: October 08, 2018, 06:28:14 PM
Quote from: MiniChamp on October 08, 2018, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: smiller43147 on October 08, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Are the tangs stamped with the year date on those Wengers?
Yes.
Indeed. Here are some pics of such a 1959 Grilon Wenger.

MiniChamp,

Thank you for the awesome pictures. Are those from an item for sale?  :D
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #12 on: October 08, 2018, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 06:28:14 PM
Quote from: MiniChamp on October 08, 2018, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: smiller43147 on October 08, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Are the tangs stamped with the year date on those Wengers?
Yes.
Indeed. Here are some pics of such a 1959 Grilon Wenger.

MiniChamp,

Thank you for the awesome pictures. Are those from an item for sale?  :D
They are from an item that was for sale about a year ago. It's not currently for sale. Sorry. I have seen others, though, so they do come up occasionally. I think that prices for ones in good condition are usually in the $100-$200 range.

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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #13 on: October 08, 2018, 07:29:17 PM
Quote from: MiniChamp on October 08, 2018, 06:54:25 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 06:28:14 PM
Quote from: MiniChamp on October 08, 2018, 06:15:37 PM
Quote from: smiller43147 on October 08, 2018, 05:43:19 PM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 03:59:54 PM
Are the tangs stamped with the year date on those Wengers?
Yes.
Indeed. Here are some pics of such a 1959 Grilon Wenger.

MiniChamp,

Thank you for the awesome pictures. Are those from an item for sale?  :D
They are from an item that was for sale about a year ago. It's not currently for sale. Sorry. I have seen others, though, so they do come up occasionally. I think that prices for ones in good condition are usually in the $100-$200 range.
:iagree: on the price range
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #14 on: October 08, 2018, 09:32:09 PM
I might have one for sale  :D
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #15 on: October 08, 2018, 11:26:48 PM
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hmmmmm......'59.....I'm pretty sure one of your contemporaries, Moses, carried a '59 SAK during his desert hike. You might check the used markets in Jordan, Israel, or Egypt.   :pok:  :rofl:  :cheers:
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #16 on: October 08, 2018, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: Etherealicer on October 08, 2018, 09:32:09 PM
I might have one for sale  :D

E, you never cease to amaze me....  :tu:
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #17 on: October 09, 2018, 12:29:45 AM
Quote from: Marc_in_NS on October 08, 2018, 06:25:47 PM
Thank so much for the pics and guiding! I am now on the look out!  :climber:

If you are keeping it as a collectable either is good but EDC get the Grilon its really tough and the knife can get damp without the scales warping .... which is nice :)

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Reply #18 on: October 09, 2018, 01:41:49 AM
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #19 on: October 09, 2018, 02:32:39 AM
Quote from: Nix on October 08, 2018, 11:26:48 PM
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hmmmmm......'59.....I'm pretty sure one of your contemporaries, Moses, carried a '59 SAK during his desert hike. You might check the used markets in Jordan, Israel, or Egypt.   :pok:  :rofl:  :cheers:

You are lucky that I took part in the “writing” of the Ten Commandments...  :rant:

Additionally: I never said it was for ME!!!! It’s for my dad... :)
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Re: Were there any 93mm Alox made in 1959?
Reply #20 on: October 09, 2018, 02:47:32 AM
 :rofl:  Good one.   :rofl:
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of an Executive or Director for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the pen for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participants shall carry and use one Soldier knife, the model of their choosing, for the duration of the 90 days and post a picture each day. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Delemont SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Cybertool (any variant), Swisschamp, Champion or Toolchest for sixty (60) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a GEC knife and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo daily of any SAK 74mm or smaller ( you can switch it up daily ) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Build your own version of an MRE using off-the-shelf components, post a photo of the completed MRE and store at room temperature for 6 days or more. Consume the MRE after the storage period and post pictures and descriptions of the contents. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Farmer X SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Using EDC items randomly selected with a poker hand, post a photo of your EDC or a component of the EDC that got used during the course of the day for 4 weeks (or 30 consecutive days) Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of your EDC or a component of the EDC that got used during the course of the day for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a Leatherman Skeletool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate and contribute in Challenge thread and post a photo of either an Axe, MT/Folding knife or Fixed blade (picked at the beginning of challenge) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a Spyderco knife for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate and contribute in Challenge thread and post a photo of a different blade each day for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a SAK Soldier for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Fieldmaster SAK for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Buck 112 Ranger for thirty (30) consecutive days. Post a picture and recipe for a batch of Chili that you have made Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a LM Pocket Survival Tool for thirty (30) consecutive days.

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