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Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
on: September 25, 2018, 04:09:48 PM
I was looking at a traveler lite recently, but was thinking about all of the electronic features. Every one of them can be had or duplicated on your phone. Everyone has a smartphone now, and many batteries last all day if not multiple days. Also, the scales are not waterproof, and banging them around could theoretically ruin them.
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #1 on: September 25, 2018, 04:15:02 PM
Yes, probably. They were always a bit of a compromise weren't they? not that rugged.
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #2 on: September 25, 2018, 04:17:46 PM
Smart phones have rendered a lot redundant or pointless.  I forget which model I have of the SAKs with electronics.  Its neat but thats about it. 
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #3 on: September 25, 2018, 04:26:05 PM
No! Go outside a coverage area it’s useless. Towers go down, its useless. Solar flares hit, its useless. I never give up old school, for new. The electronic scales are independent and not tied into a support system like a cell phone.
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #4 on: September 25, 2018, 04:35:37 PM
Ray, your phone's internal presure, temp, gps sensors work without reception.

A solar flare would also destroy your electronic SAK scales...
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #5 on: September 25, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on September 25, 2018, 04:35:37 PM
Ray, your phone's internal presure, temp, gps sensors work without reception.

A solar flare would also destroy your electronic SAK scales...
True on solar flare...the above work without reception...gps??? Are you sure???
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #6 on: September 25, 2018, 04:42:14 PM
Yup!

Your phone has an X Y Z sensor and a magnetic field sensor that can detect the earth poles too.

Well maybe not YOUR phone, but the average smartphone has.

You just need an app/apps to acces the data from these sensors.
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #7 on: September 25, 2018, 04:43:29 PM
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #8 on: September 25, 2018, 04:47:08 PM
Quote from: Rapidray on September 25, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on September 25, 2018, 04:35:37 PM
Ray, your phone's internal presure, temp, gps sensors work without reception.

A solar flare would also destroy your electronic SAK scales...
True on solar flare...the above work without reception...gps??? Are you sure???

Think standalone GPS. Newer ones I dun know. The older models never need to connect to any network.
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #9 on: September 25, 2018, 04:47:44 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on September 25, 2018, 04:42:14 PM
Yup!

Your phone has an X Y Z sensor and a magnetic field sensor that can detect the earth poles too.

Well maybe not YOUR phone, but the average smartphone has.

You just need an app/apps to acces the data from these sensors.
So...we don’t need the satellites anymore for gps???
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #10 on: September 25, 2018, 04:48:17 PM
My phone has an internal GPS antenna and is about 2.5 years old.
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #11 on: September 25, 2018, 04:48:38 PM
They still use the satelites...
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #12 on: September 25, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
No satellites either after a solar flare big enough to fry your phone or stand alone gps

Map and compass ftw  :D
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #13 on: September 25, 2018, 04:50:20 PM
X Y Z sensor means it can sense acceleration in any direction "in space" but no location.

The magnetic sensor senses like a compass. The GPS antenna senses the GPS satelites and determines your position on earth.
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #14 on: September 25, 2018, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: Sam Lim on September 25, 2018, 04:47:08 PM
Quote from: Rapidray on September 25, 2018, 04:40:09 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on September 25, 2018, 04:35:37 PM
Ray, your phone's internal presure, temp, gps sensors work without reception.

A solar flare would also destroy your electronic SAK scales...
True on solar flare...the above work without reception...gps??? Are you sure???

Think standalone GPS. Newer ones I dun know. The older models never need to connect to any network.
That’s what I was thinking...the phone gps went thru the tower to satellite. The standalone gps hit the satellites directly.
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #15 on: September 25, 2018, 04:51:49 PM
Quote from: Kev D on September 25, 2018, 04:49:44 PM
No satellites either after a solar flare big enough to fry your phone or stand alone gps

Map and compass ftw  :D
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #16 on: September 25, 2018, 04:51:59 PM
Many watches also have ABC features.   :pok:  Dont' need to rely on a smart phone. 
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #17 on: September 25, 2018, 04:54:00 PM
Quote from: Aloha007 on September 25, 2018, 04:51:59 PM
Many watches also have ABC features.   :pok:  Dont' need to rely on a smart phone.

Oooo, what are ABC features?
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #18 on: September 25, 2018, 04:55:29 PM
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #19 on: September 25, 2018, 04:56:08 PM
Quote from: Mechanickal on September 25, 2018, 04:50:20 PM
X Y Z sensor means it can sense acceleration in any direction "in space" but no location.

The magnetic sensor senses like a compass. The GPS antenna senses the GPS satelites and determines your position on earth.
Oh, so the gps antenna is in the phones? Am I understanding this right? Hang in there with me...thanks
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #20 on: September 25, 2018, 04:57:26 PM
'Use the force Harry' - Gandalf
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #21 on: September 25, 2018, 04:57:37 PM
Yes, it is ;)
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #22 on: September 25, 2018, 04:58:28 PM
Screenshot from my (flemish) phone:

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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #23 on: September 25, 2018, 05:00:55 PM
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #24 on: September 25, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
:think:
To recap: a phone is able to download maps for offline use, so it doesn’t need a cellular connection if you download the maps.
And a phone connects straight to the gps satellites with its own antenna, so it doesn’t need cellular connection for that either.
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #25 on: September 25, 2018, 05:02:27 PM
Do phones have barometers?
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #26 on: September 25, 2018, 05:05:53 PM
Yes

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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #27 on: September 25, 2018, 05:08:45 PM
 :like:
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #28 on: September 25, 2018, 05:12:17 PM
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Re: Have smartphones rendered electronic-scaled-SAKs pointless?
Reply #29 on: September 25, 2018, 05:31:12 PM
Quote from: Don Pablo on September 25, 2018, 05:01:41 PM
:think:
To recap: a phone is able to download maps for offline use, so it doesn’t need a cellular connection if you download the maps.
And a phone connects straight to the gps satellites with its own antenna, so it doesn’t need cellular connection for that either.

You may not need maps (on or offline) to know where you are, but a lat/long coordinate on its own may not be much use to you.
AGPS (Assisted Global Positioning System) uses the phone network and the GPS network together to get a faster position fix.
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