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Benner 4122

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Benner
« on: November 30, 2008, 07:18:44 PM »
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Def

Leave the dents as they are- let your belongings show their scars as proudly as you do yours.
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Re: Benner
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2008, 07:21:17 PM »
Subtle....very subtle :D

Life is like a sandwich...the older it gets the crustier it becomes!
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Re: Benner
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2008, 07:21:59 PM »
Should have posted your pic of the 2 handed version.  :D

It looks a superb tool and yes I do want one, but given the choice I'd rather have the 2 handed one as I'd feel happier carrying it.  :)

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Re: Benner
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2008, 07:25:23 PM »
Holy crap, Def. :D

Got those frog legs.
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Re: Benner
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2008, 07:28:35 PM »
Holy crap, Def. :D

Def doesn't mess about.  If he's got something to say, he says it!  :D

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Re: Benner
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2008, 07:29:47 PM »
Should have posted your pic of the 2 handed version.  :D

It looks a superb tool and yes I do want one, but given the choice I'd rather have the 2 handed one as I'd feel happier carrying it.  :)

Would you prefer black or yellow ?

Dunc
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Re: Benner
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2008, 07:31:37 PM »
Should have posted your pic of the 2 handed version.  :D

It looks a superb tool and yes I do want one, but given the choice I'd rather have the 2 handed one as I'd feel happier carrying it.  :)

Would you prefer black or yellow ?

Dunc

Has to be yellow.  :)  Both because of visability and the fact that it looks so pretty.  :D

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Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 61,325 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: Benner
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2008, 07:32:03 PM »
You mean like this two hander?





Good luck finding one...

Def

Leave the dents as they are- let your belongings show their scars as proudly as you do yours.
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Re: Benner
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2008, 07:33:16 PM »
they make two-handed versions? kinda useless, though.

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Re: Benner
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2008, 07:34:14 PM »
Here we go http://www.swiss-knife.com/asp/detail.asp?lan=EN&code=0.8623.N&shop=SK

Besides, you could always send me yours.  :pok:

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Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 61,325 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: Benner
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2008, 07:34:37 PM »
They are very useful in jurisdictions where one handed openers are frowned upon.

Def

Leave the dents as they are- let your belongings show their scars as proudly as you do yours.
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Re: Benner
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2008, 07:36:05 PM »
well, it takes longer to get it out to rescue someone. Sometimes those few seconds mean life or death.

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Re: Benner
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2008, 07:36:21 PM »
they make two-handed versions? kinda useless, though.

Not you as well.  ::)

Why would making the main blade make it useless?  It still has a one handed(ish) serrated blade and all the other rescue tools on there.  A OH blade on that tool is not a necessity IMO, it is just an added convenience.

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Re: Benner
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2008, 07:37:41 PM »
as i said, sometimes life and death is determined by only a few seconds.

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Re: Benner
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2008, 07:38:00 PM »
well, it takes longer to get it out to rescue someone. Sometimes those few seconds mean life or death.

But you still have the same serrated blade and that would be the one I'd want to use to free someone say, who is trapped in a car for example.

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Re: Benner
« Reply #15 on: November 30, 2008, 07:40:36 PM »
But you still have the same serrated blade and that would be the one I'd want to use to free someone say, who is trapped in a car for example.

Yeah despite my humorous quip in the other thread the rescue blade is still two handed so it don't matter which version you have. :)

Life is like a sandwich...the older it gets the crustier it becomes!
Global Tuffy Absolute Zombie Club Posts: 28,083 Just Awesome! And a Slayer of Polar Bear!
Re: Benner
« Reply #16 on: November 30, 2008, 07:41:56 PM »
But you still have the same serrated blade and that would be the one I'd want to use to free someone say, who is trapped in a car for example.

Yeah despite my humorous quip in the other thread the rescue blade is still two handed so it don't matter which version you have. :)

You can tell who has the brains in this place.  ;) :D

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Re: Benner
« Reply #17 on: November 30, 2008, 07:43:14 PM »
You can tell who has the brains in this place.  ;) :D

Yeah.... Flash, he's got a degree you know :pok: :D

Life is like a sandwich...the older it gets the crustier it becomes!
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Re: Benner
« Reply #18 on: November 30, 2008, 07:47:07 PM »
Here we go http://www.swiss-knife.com/asp/detail.asp?lan=EN&code=0.8623.N&shop=SK

Besides, you could always send me yours.  :pok:

Thats cheaper then I thought , plus they do the spare parts .

Dunc
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Re: Benner
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2008, 07:51:09 PM »
But you still have the same serrated blade and that would be the one I'd want to use to free someone say, who is trapped in a car for example.

Yeah despite my humorous quip in the other thread the rescue blade is still two handed so it don't matter which version you have. :)


This is how you do it  :D


Dunc
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Re: Benner
« Reply #20 on: November 30, 2008, 08:05:15 PM »
I totally agree with Benner... The implements of the Rescue Tool, being a... ummm... rescue tool, that need to be OH are the glass breaker and the seat belt cutter, which are still OH even when the main blade is not. The main advantage of an OH main blade is that you can use it with gloves on, while a nail nick requires that you are bare handed...
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Re: Benner
« Reply #21 on: November 30, 2008, 08:08:32 PM »
I'm not sure my reflexes are good enough that the extra 1.4 seconds gained by having a one-handed blade would actually be put to any particular use.

Do they do a two-handed serrated blade?
Head Turd Polisher Administrator Just Bananas Posts: 61,325 Optimum instrumentum est inter aures
Re: Benner
« Reply #22 on: November 30, 2008, 08:10:55 PM »
Yup:



Def

Leave the dents as they are- let your belongings show their scars as proudly as you do yours.
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Re: Benner
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2008, 08:35:46 PM »
I'm not a huge fan of one handers but there is a time and place for everything and on a rescue knife this is it .

Being a rescue knife doesn't mean all you do is cut peoples seat belts . I'm looking at this knife as a vehicle rescue knife . At a car crash there could be other items to be cut like roof headlinings , the rubber around the windscreen as seen in the Vic video below . What about a baby in a car seat ? the belt that holds the seat in position would need to be cut so the seat can be removed with child still in it , plastic trim ,the list goes on . A one hander is a must in these situations so you can keep your gloves on .

http://www.victorinox.ch/index.cfm?site=victorinox.ch&page=118&lang=E&id=200701091536506968

Ben I'm not saying I think you should get the one hander , I'm just saying thats why I prefer it .I understand your reason mate   :)

Dunc
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Re: Benner
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2008, 08:46:00 PM »
Dunc knows I am weak.  Look what happened with the Sebbie.  He knows that if he keeps going on I'll buckle under the pressure and go buy one.  :D

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Re: Benner
« Reply #25 on: November 30, 2008, 08:47:09 PM »
Dunc knows I am weak.  Look what happened with the Sebbie.  He knows that if he keeps going on I'll buckle under the pressure and go buy one.  :D

How could you think such a thing

 >:D


Dunc
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Re: Benner
« Reply #26 on: November 30, 2008, 09:28:59 PM »
Ben dont let them talk you out of it! get the one you want. then you will hate it go on thier recomendations and send the other to me. See everyone wins.

S
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Re: Benner
« Reply #27 on: November 30, 2008, 09:58:34 PM »
I'm not a huge fan of one handers but there is a time and place for everything and on a rescue knife this is it .

Being a rescue knife doesn't mean all you do is cut peoples seat belts . I'm looking at this knife as a vehicle rescue knife . At a car crash there could be other items to be cut like roof headlinings , the rubber around the windscreen as seen in the Vic video below . What about a baby in a car seat ? the belt that holds the seat in position would need to be cut so the seat can be removed with child still in it , plastic trim ,the list goes on . A one hander is a must in these situations so you can keep your gloves on .
I am a fan of one handers and still believe that a two-hander rescue tool is ok. The seat-belt cutter implement, being both (a) serrated, (b) blunt tipped, and (c) one-hander, is your best bet for mostly all of these situations you describe (I definitely wouldn't want a pointed blade near a baby car seat). I mean, if you're inside the vehicle in question, you probably have no use for a pointed blade. If OTOH you're outside the vehicle, and you're not a fireman or something (so you don't have fat gloves on), a two hander is ok as well and it's surely more sheeple friendly than a OH blade... And a rescue tool that you're not afraid to carry around is a rescue tool that's probably more useful than one that's bound to stay at home... Just my €0.02 :)

These runts aside, it's Ben's decision as "only the ringtool-bearer matters"...
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Re: Benner
« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2008, 12:17:59 AM »
+1 get the one you like benner. Plus everything you get multitool you want a little multitool packing Angel gets its wings  :D :D :D


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Re: Benner
« Reply #29 on: December 01, 2008, 01:46:41 AM »
Subtle....very subtle :D
About as subtle as getting hit in the face with a brick. ::)

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 Some run from breaks of ice, and answer none:
 And some condemned for a fault alone." -William Shakespeare, King Lear (1608), Act IV, scene 6, line 169

 

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