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Re: Benner
Reply #30 on: December 01, 2008, 03:17:24 AM
MT.O motto just get both and keep the illegal one @ home  :pok: ::) :D :D :D


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Reply #31 on: December 01, 2008, 03:48:35 AM
MT.O motto just get both and keep the illegal one @ home  :pok: ::) :D :D :D
Too bad our British friends could not carry OH in their country  :(
Benner, if you volunteer as a firefighter even not full time will you be permitted to carry the OH emergency SAK?
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Reply #32 on: December 01, 2008, 05:40:33 AM
One handers are not illegal in the UK ! Locking blades without a reason to carry are .

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Reply #33 on: December 01, 2008, 06:24:14 AM
One handers are not illegal in the UK ! Locking blades without a reason to carry are .

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Thanks for clearing that out. So a volunteer firefighter can carry locking blades.
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Reply #34 on: December 01, 2008, 06:42:00 AM
I'm fairly sure we don't have volunteer firefighters.
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Reply #35 on: December 01, 2008, 08:23:55 AM
Do the wallopers really haul you aside and say "right there son, now where's your reasoning for that there blade?"

Various blades are illegal in Oz, but I've never really had any strife over it.


To use the vernacular, the Laws are there to protect us from dickheads, so just don't be a dickhead, and you'll be fine.


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Reply #36 on: December 01, 2008, 09:49:39 AM
Do the wallopers really haul you aside and say "right there son, now where's your reasoning for that there blade?"

Various blades are illegal in Oz, but I've never really had any strife over it.


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Reply #37 on: December 01, 2008, 09:57:47 AM
I'm fairly sure we don't have volunteer firefighters.

We do in the more remote rural areas of Scotland.  I admit that isn't much use to you chaps down there. :)

Nomad, you're right in that it isn't likely people get stopped, but if you are caught then you will be charged.  Ben isn't doing anything to get around the Law, the blade is to long and it locks so he would still need a specific reason to carry it, "just in case" is to general an answer and wouldn't do.  What Ben is addressing is a public perception of knives.

I say go for the two handed opening Ben, at least you will have something a bit different.
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Reply #38 on: December 01, 2008, 10:01:15 AM
Well then since now I have a clearer sence of the law as the saying Goes "in For a Penny in for a pound" Just get the OH version of it. They cant do any more for it. 
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Reply #39 on: December 01, 2008, 11:21:23 AM
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Nomad, you're right in that it isn't likely people get stopped, but if you are caught then you will be charged.

That's what I'm wondering - would you really get charged, or would you just get a "keep out of trouble mate" and be sent on your way?


I've had my differences with the local police, sure enough, but generally, if you're not causing any harm, they don't crack open the little notebook just for the sake of it.


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Reply #40 on: December 01, 2008, 01:17:01 PM
These days, you'd get charged.  Once upon a time, there would be a good chance if it looked like you weren't going to be causing bother with it, that you'd either be told to take it home or have it confiscated.  Those days are gone.

The only question now is if you'd be done for carrying an offensive weapon or the lesser charge of a sharp/pointy thing in a public space.

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Reply #41 on: December 01, 2008, 01:53:09 PM
These days, you'd get charged.  Once upon a time, there would be a good chance if it looked like you weren't going to be causing bother with it, that you'd either be told to take it home or have it confiscated.  Those days are gone.

The only question now is if you'd be done for carrying an offensive weapon or the lesser charge of a sharp/pointy thing in a public space.

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You can't carry any lock blade knife/tool ? Even multitools (like Leatherman) ?
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Reply #42 on: December 01, 2008, 02:16:35 PM
I'm not a lawyer but basically that's correct.  At least not without good reason.  You have to be able to prove the good reason :) 

The UK's Police National Legal Database gives a nice clear non-mumbo jumbo explanation.

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Reply #43 on: December 01, 2008, 03:18:27 PM
I'm not a lawyer but basically that's correct.  At least not without good reason.  You have to be able to prove the good reason :) 

The UK's Police National Legal Database gives a nice clear non-mumbo jumbo explanation.

Neil

oooo...  it says:
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Possession of a multi-tool incorporating a prohibited blade/pointed article is capable of being an offence under this section even if there are other tools on the instrument which may be of use to a person in a public place (screwdriver, can opener).
So no multi-tools as well...
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Reply #44 on: December 01, 2008, 03:45:39 PM
It's the reason I stopped carrying my Supertool and got into SAKs.  I also have a PST for the same reason; non-locking blade.
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Reply #45 on: December 01, 2008, 04:14:12 PM
You'd think not wanting to have the thing fold up and cut your fingers off would be a "good reason".

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Reply #46 on: December 01, 2008, 05:18:55 PM
I'm fairly sure we don't have volunteer firefighters.

We do in the more remote rural areas of Scotland.  I admit that isn't much use to you chaps down there. :)

Nomad, you're right in that it isn't likely people get stopped, but if you are caught then you will be charged.  Ben isn't doing anything to get around the Law, the blade is to long and it locks so he would still need a specific reason to carry it, "just in case" is to general an answer and wouldn't do.  What Ben is addressing is a public perception of knives.

I say go for the two handed opening Ben, at least you will have something a bit different.

Gareth, that is exactly what I was saying.  :)

You'd think not wanting to have the thing fold up and cut your fingers off would be a "good reason".



You would think so huh.  ::)  But here, adding the lock makes it into a ninjas stabby weapon.
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Reply #47 on: December 01, 2008, 05:45:43 PM
Somewhere in the last few decades, carrying a pocket knife changed you from being perceived as a prepared Scout to being a Teenage Ninja Hooded Terrorist. :(

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Reply #48 on: December 01, 2008, 06:37:29 PM
There's a good reason why all us Brits have an unnatural attraction to Saks :-\
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Reply #49 on: December 01, 2008, 07:29:52 PM
There's a good reason why all us Brits have an unnatural attraction to Saks :-\

True, but even then you have to be careful not to scare readers of certain lower quality opinionpapers.  Oh lets not go here again, its just too depressing  :cry:  <multitool.org is a happy place, multitool.org is a happy place, ...>

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Reply #50 on: December 01, 2008, 09:59:30 PM
There's a good reason why all us Brits have an unnatural attraction to Saks :-\

True, but even then you have to be careful not to scare readers of certain lower quality opinionpapers.  Oh lets not go here again, its just too depressing  :cry:  <multitool.org is a happy place, multitool.org is a happy place, ...>

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Reply #51 on: December 01, 2008, 10:41:22 PM
Just because your paranoid doesn't mean ...

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Reply #52 on: December 01, 2008, 10:43:17 PM
Just because your paranoid doesn't mean ... (Image removed from quote.)

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Reply #53 on: December 01, 2008, 10:45:16 PM
Or inconsequential enough to be casually swatted aside  :-\

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Reply #54 on: December 01, 2008, 10:51:41 PM
Or inconsequential enough to be casually swatted aside  :-\

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Reply #55 on: December 01, 2008, 11:02:51 PM
I admire your spirit in the face of adversity. :)

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Reply #56 on: December 01, 2008, 11:53:44 PM
So, Ben, you order one yet?  :D  :pok:

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Reply #57 on: December 01, 2008, 11:55:26 PM
Nope.  So far I have behaved myself.  :angel:
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Reply #58 on: December 02, 2008, 12:25:28 AM
Keep doing that and you'll have to ban yourself!  :D

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Reply #59 on: December 02, 2008, 10:42:14 AM
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Can I get that as a button, or a bumper sticker, or something?


 

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