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SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?

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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #150 on: October 13, 2018, 05:45:14 PM
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #151 on: October 13, 2018, 05:47:38 PM
I will avoid the new sub forums out of protest movement.

Seriously.

Like Nix is steering into, we can not just start subforums about anything to draw in more people.

This place started as a multitool forum and knives in general.

Hand tools came along too....
Even more speSmurfpillsed hand tools, dremels, other power tools, woodworking, photography etc etc...

At this rate we'll lose our true identity.
Quality over quantity.

Members are interested in woodworking? No problem!
Thermometers? Sure!
But there are other forums for that.
Just my 2c...

I honestly don't like this.

MTO has had sub forums for other stuff, like flashlights for example, for as long as I can remember. I would much rather the forum diversify to broaden the scope of discussion, than much of the gibberish that people do seem to post out of boredom.

Will all members like all the various tool discussions, of course not. Kayaking for example, is not something that interests me personally, but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be at MTO. Some of them can make for interesting reads, even though I have no real interest in the activity I would MUCH rather read that than the mindless crap from the post count chasers.

Hand tools, power tools, restorations, build projects, bring it on! If I only find 20% of it interesting, that's 20% more interesting than the jaffa cakes, uboats, and lego minifigs and all the other crap I try to steer clear of, ever will be. That has its "benefits" too in terms of site traffic, but so long as it stays in its own area and doesn't smurf up the forum for the rest of us, I'm happy to ignore it.

I really don't understand accepting all that stuff as being MTO worthy, but other tool related discussion isnt  :think: a broadening of sensible discussion spoils the forum, but total smurfing mayhem about smurf all doesn't? Seriously?!?!

Tony's car boot thread, the various axe threads, the traditional knives threads, all great reads, and not multitool oriented. Cooking stoves and the other "outdoorsy" stuff, too. The more diverse the forum is, the more chance we'll all get something more that interests us, and if some threads don't, then just enjoy the ones that do.

Yes, I think the list of sub-forums should lead with the primary forums for the site, but I think that as the market and development of multitools has gotten rather "pedestrian", then expanding the scope of other tool related discussions is a positive thing for MTO.

Yes, lets have hand tools and power tools and other topics of conversation.

Yes, let's list those below the multitool brand threads.

No, lets not gripe when the forum looks to increase traffic with something other than total bullsmurf.


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #152 on: October 13, 2018, 06:08:17 PM


Tony's car boot thread, the various axe threads, the traditional knives threads, all great reads, and not multitool oriented. Cooking stoves and the other "outdoorsy" stuff, too. The more diverse the forum is, the more chance we'll all get something more that interests us, and if some threads don't, then just enjoy the ones that do.


Like I said, I can perfectly see topics like those on MTO without any problems.

I understand your view of the random bullsmurf and gibberisch going on.

As soon as it was stated that members here have issues with that, I've been doing my best to avoid doing that in serious topics.

The question we do need to ask ourselves though, is:
Where will we draw the line?


On top of that, like I said, I'm trying to alter my behaviour on serious topics because others take offence on it.
So I slightly expect to receive the same treatment when I, and others, are annoyed by something too.


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #153 on: October 13, 2018, 06:20:46 PM


Tony's car boot thread, the various axe threads, the traditional knives threads, all great reads, and not multitool oriented. Cooking stoves and the other "outdoorsy" stuff, too. The more diverse the forum is, the more chance we'll all get something more that interests us, and if some threads don't, then just enjoy the ones that do.


Like I said, I can perfectly see topics like those on MTO without any problems.

I understand your view of the random bullsmurf and gibberisch going on.

As soon as it was stated that members here have issues with that, I've been doing my best to avoid doing that in serious topics.

The question we do need to ask ourselves though, is:
Where will we draw the line?


On top of that, like I said, I'm trying to alter my behaviour on serious topics because others take offence on it.
So I slightly expect to receive the same treatment when I, and others, are annoyed by something too.

 :cheers:

Well, I thinks there's room for all our interests, and room for more too. However, I totally agree with you that the tools and knives this place was built for, should always head the bill.  :tu:

So long as the silliness stops in the playrooms, and the various tools stay within their relative domains (and the mods are usually very much on the ball with moving threads to the right areas), then I don't think any of us will either be swamped in stuff we don't want to see, nor denied the space for what we do want to engage with.

 I do believe that increasing the diversity, will help us all have a little bit more of the type of stuff we all want, even if there is a pile of stuff we're not interested in .... because someone else will be interested in it, and they should be able to have their fun too :salute:

If hammer discussions start taking over the SAKnight forums for example, i'd be right with you, shouting for them to be shifted  :tu: however, if someone wants to discuss socket set (which I don't), I think there's plenty of room here to set up a space for that discussion  :cheers:
« Last Edit: October 13, 2018, 06:25:27 PM by AimlessWanderer »


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #154 on: October 13, 2018, 06:25:20 PM
So what would make a perfect forum :think:
I like talking and reading about MTs SAKs etc
My biggest problem is that most MTs etc have
already been talked about and there haven’t
been many new models that have come out lately  :(

I would love to read about a new model knife
But than companies would first have to make one  :D
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #155 on: October 13, 2018, 06:28:52 PM
So what would make a perfect forum :think:
I like talking and reading about MTs SAKs etc
My biggest problem is that most MTs etc have
already been talked about and there haven’t
been many new models that have come out lately  :(

I would love to read about a new model knife
But than companies would first have to make one  :D

A perfect forum is one which only has stuff that you want to read - but that's not practical, as we all want to engage with different stuff.

The next best is what is being strived for - space for us all to share our overlapping interests, so we can all discuss and engage with what we want, and so can our fellow forumites whose interests at times may stray away from our own


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #156 on: October 13, 2018, 06:35:47 PM
I'm late to this party and haven't read everything but for me MT research brought me here and the diversity and attitudes of the members kept me here.

Pretty much what Al said except I love the kayak posts and am guilty of posting about a particular Lego minifig  (or two)
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #157 on: October 13, 2018, 06:56:52 PM
I'm dropping out of this discussion. I've already been far too sarcastic for anyone's good.

I think I'll drop out of the forum for a while for good measure.

So, that's a little less noise to swamp you, AW.

Hope you get the forum you want. G'day.   :hatsoff:


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #158 on: October 13, 2018, 07:00:09 PM
I am speechless  :facepalm:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #159 on: October 13, 2018, 07:07:06 PM
 :iagree:

 :think:

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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #160 on: October 13, 2018, 07:45:43 PM
I'm dropping out of this discussion. I've already been far too sarcastic for anyone's good.

I think I'll drop out of the forum for a while for good measure.

So, that's a little less noise to swamp you, AW.

Hope you get the forum you want. G'day.   :hatsoff:

I too, shall move on. If I cannot express my desire without being lectured, then this place no longer excite me. So long suckers.


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #161 on: October 13, 2018, 07:52:45 PM
so, to avoid ending up a great Saturday in an angry or uncomfortable mood,  :(
I found the solution to the differences between SAKs and Hand Tools, :o :woohoo:
I hereby  present you the definitive solution that will unify both groups:





you awl get one of these!!!  :pok: :hatsoff:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #162 on: October 13, 2018, 07:54:23 PM
 
so, to avoid ending up a great Saturday in an angry or uncomfortable mood,  :(
I found the solution to the differences between SAKs and Hand Tools, :o :woohoo:
I hereby  present you the definitive solution that will unify both groups:

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 :D

 :rofl: :like:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #163 on: October 13, 2018, 08:13:00 PM
Well now I’m upset.  :facepalm: :cry:
Hoping you come back soon.  :cheers:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #164 on: October 13, 2018, 08:22:22 PM
I’m looking at the front page of the SAK forum...
The only things there that interest me are this thread, because I like discussing issues, rapidray’s Pen & SAK challenge thread, and the question threads started by new members with questions (‘cause I like helping out).

The General tool forum is similar.

Leatherman, SOG, and Gerber interest me even less ( I only have one old LM that I got at a car boot, and one SOG).
I’m burnt out when it comes to multitools.  :-\ Should I leave this multitool forum?
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #165 on: October 13, 2018, 08:24:11 PM
I’m looking at the front page of the SAK forum...
The only things there that interest me are this thread, because I like discussing issues, rapidray’s Pen & SAK challenge thread, and the question threads started by new members with questions (‘cause I like helping out).

The General tool forum is similar.

Leatherman, SOG, and Gerber interest me even less ( I only have one old LM that I got at a car boot, and one SOG).
I’m burnt out when it comes to multitools.  :-\ Should I leave this multitool forum?

No  :)


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #166 on: October 13, 2018, 08:26:19 PM
I’m looking at the front page of the SAK forum...
The only things there that interest me are this thread, because I like discussing issues, rapidray’s Pen & SAK challenge thread, and the question threads started by new members with questions (‘cause I like helping out).

The General tool forum is similar.

Leatherman, SOG, and Gerber interest me even less ( I only have one old LM that I got at a car boot, and one SOG).
I’m burnt out when it comes to multitools.  :-\ Should I leave this multitool forum?

No  :)
:cheers:

My stat tracker says I make 33% of my posts in the break room.  :D
In the past half year, it’s probably more like 60%.  :think:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #167 on: October 13, 2018, 08:28:18 PM
I thought this thread was about wanting
to move a couple of new forums  :think:

And now members are leaving for what  ???
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #168 on: October 13, 2018, 08:31:16 PM
I’m looking at the front page of the SAK forum...
The only things there that interest me are this thread, because I like discussing issues, rapidray’s Pen & SAK challenge thread, and the question threads started by new members with questions (‘cause I like helping out).

The General tool forum is similar.

Leatherman, SOG, and Gerber interest me even less ( I only have one old LM that I got at a car boot, and one SOG).
I’m burnt out when it comes to multitools.  :-\ Should I leave this multitool forum?

No  :)
:cheers:

My stat tracker says I make 33% of my posts in the break room.  :D
In the past half year, it’s probably more like 60%.  :think:

Get yourself a Traditional slipjoint and come hang in the edged tool forum  :pok:


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #169 on: October 13, 2018, 08:33:30 PM
I’m looking at the front page of the SAK forum...
The only things there that interest me are this thread, because I like discussing issues, rapidray’s Pen & SAK challenge thread, and the question threads started by new members with questions (‘cause I like helping out).

The General tool forum is similar.

Leatherman, SOG, and Gerber interest me even less ( I only have one old LM that I got at a car boot, and one SOG).
I’m burnt out when it comes to multitools.  :-\ Should I leave this multitool forum?

No  :)
:cheers:

My stat tracker says I make 33% of my posts in the break room.  :D
In the past half year, it’s probably more like 60%.  :think:

Get yourself a Traditional slipjoint and come hang in the edged tool forum  :pok:
:like:
Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #170 on: October 13, 2018, 08:33:51 PM
I thought this thread was about wanting
to move a couple of new forums  :think:

And now members are leaving for what  ???

 :dunno:
I was enjoying the fun til it got serious.
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #171 on: October 13, 2018, 08:37:51 PM
Seriously... this is the second online place collapsing on me in 2 hours...

Am I truely the cause of smurf like this??


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #172 on: October 13, 2018, 08:39:00 PM
I thought this thread was about wanting
to move a couple of new forums  :think:

And now members are leaving for what  ???

 :dunno:
I was enjoying the fun til it got serious.
 :shrug:
Same here  :think:
I am still speechless  :facepalm:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #173 on: October 13, 2018, 08:41:24 PM
Seriously... this is the second online place collapsing on me in 2 hours...

Am I truely the cause of smurf like this??
I am confused  :dunno:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #174 on: October 13, 2018, 08:43:32 PM
Seriously... this is the second online place collapsing on me in 2 hours...

Am I truely the cause of smurf like this??
I think we need a :mechy: sign. :rofl:

Nah, you’re fine.  :tu: I think. :think:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #175 on: October 13, 2018, 08:47:02 PM
I don't feel fine... :(


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #176 on: October 13, 2018, 08:48:31 PM
 :iagree: I can’t believe that we
have lost two excellent members  :facepalm:
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #177 on: October 13, 2018, 08:53:40 PM
FFS!!!


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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #178 on: October 13, 2018, 08:54:34 PM
I don't feel fine... :(
:iagree: :(
But it doesn’t mean that you should be feeling totally responsible for it.
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Re: SAKnights Forum above the new tool forums?
Reply #179 on: October 13, 2018, 08:56:24 PM
,,,if you do that online where visitors leave in a split second if they do not spot what they came for, you are making a mistake...

Split second gone, visitors are leaving.  :facepalm:
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