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Filework: A backspring killer?

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Filework: A backspring killer?
on: October 17, 2018, 11:42:06 PM
Filework is something I've been in two minds about for a long time. Done with the right hands, I think it can look stunning, and really elevates a standard factory item, to an artisanal masterpiece. However, the engineer in me, is also very wary of the removal of material, and changes in section, of a critical component that's designed to continually flex over a long lifespan.

If I'm going to the trouble of doing any filework, I want to be able to use it, and not lock it away as a drawer queen. what's everyone's thoughts on this, and has anyone used a fileworked backspring knife as a daily user for a prolongued period, or had a fileworked backspring fail?


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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #1 on: October 18, 2018, 06:47:42 AM
I have to look to see if my knock off Laguiole knife has filed work done to the back spring :think:.  It was used albeit it for food so not hard at all.  I like the way file work looks.  In the right hands its stunning and really adds to the ascetics in a way Damascus pattern does to a blade IMO. 

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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #2 on: October 18, 2018, 06:54:46 AM
FYI Aloha, there are no such knives as "Fake Laguiole's" since Laguiole is a type of knife, not a brand ;)


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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #3 on: October 18, 2018, 08:54:46 AM
Regardless of any impact on spring life, filework is unnecessary frippery and best avoided, IMO.


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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #4 on: October 18, 2018, 10:09:45 AM
Regardless of any impact on spring life, filework is unnecessary frippery and best avoided, IMO.

So is some of the other cosmetic work I have planned, but I'll be doing it none the less  :rofl:


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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #5 on: October 18, 2018, 10:23:56 AM
I have to look to see if my knock off Laguiole knife has filed work done to the back spring :think:.  It was used albeit it for food so not hard at all.  I like the way file work looks.  In the right hands its stunning and really adds to the ascetics in a way Damascus pattern does to a blade IMO.

Thanks Aloha  :cheers: I think both filework and damascus can elevate a knife, or "cheapen" it somehow, depending on the patterning and skill. If done right, you're quite right, they can be stunning  :tu:


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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #6 on: October 18, 2018, 02:52:27 PM
FYI Aloha, there are no such knives as "Fake Laguiole's" since Laguiole is a type of knife, not a brand ;)

 :tu: Thanks. 
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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #7 on: October 18, 2018, 02:54:12 PM
Regardless of any impact on spring life, filework is unnecessary frippery and best avoided, IMO.

So is some of the other cosmetic work I have planned, but I'll be doing it none the less  :rofl:

I don't mind ornamentation so long as function is not compromised. 
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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #8 on: October 18, 2018, 03:11:26 PM
Regardless of any impact on spring life, filework is unnecessary frippery and best avoided, IMO.

So is some of the other cosmetic work I have planned, but I'll be doing it none the less  :rofl:

I don't mind ornamentation so long as function is not compromised.

Absolutely!  :tu:


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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #9 on: October 19, 2018, 02:17:33 PM
Regardless of any impact on spring life, filework is unnecessary frippery and best avoided, IMO.

This.

But having said that, I do look forward to seeing it done by a hobbyist.  I'm sure you'll be pleased with your handiwork, and I wish you luck with your project. 
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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #10 on: October 19, 2018, 03:50:45 PM
Regardless of any impact on spring life, filework is unnecessary frippery and best avoided, IMO.

This.

But having said that, I do look forward to seeing it done by a hobbyist.  I'm sure you'll be pleased with your handiwork, and I wish you luck with your project.

Thanks Myron :cheers:


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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #11 on: November 10, 2018, 09:42:53 AM
I have several Laguioles with filework on the springs. I don´t think it affects performance or longevity, but your question made me wonder whether the filework is done before or after heat treating the spring.


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Re: Filework: A backspring killer?
Reply #12 on: February 16, 2019, 10:51:45 PM
I have several Laguioles with filework on the springs. I don´t think it affects performance or longevity, but your question made me wonder whether the filework is done before or after heat treating the spring.

 :oops: Just seen this  :-[

After! Quenching with that detail on would lead to higher risk of cracking, besides which, you'd have to fine it all over again after treatment, in order to get it back shiny again.


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