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New Ti Pocket Wrench 830

Global Moderator Point Of No Return Posts: 33,375
New Ti Pocket Wrench
« on: October 26, 2018, 03:36:05 PM »


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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2018, 03:41:08 PM »
Looks neat :like: I will watch video when at home :tu: :like:
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2018, 04:32:06 PM »
I was looking at the Kickstarter page and wondering why they think that's a deep carry clip when it clearly isn't. Way to understand the business, there. And what the smurf kind of name is Ti EDC Wrench? These crowdfunding campaigns are getting lazier all the time. I'm waiting for one of them to just be named "Metal Tool."
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2018, 11:03:49 PM »
I like the design itself.

Functionally though it seems too short for the larger sizes it can grip. Without the length to provide torque it will be very difficult to loosen a properly fastened nut. Or worse, very difficult to properly fasten a nut using that one. For some applications it might be important or critical that nuts stay fastened after fastening so that is a worry.

The old design they refer to is still in production and available. Those ones have the advantage of the proper length to provide the required torque for the sizes it can grip. The designed length was not chosen randomly - they didn't add more length just to increase costs and weight...

Still, that is a cutie.
« Last Edit: October 26, 2018, 11:04:53 PM by Vidar »

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2018, 04:01:10 PM »
I like this style of adjustable wrench.

But... I think I want it in steel. Most of the nuts I'd apply it to are steel, and while Ti is the sexy metal and utterly blingtastic, it's not harder than steel. And for the not-steel nuts, it's too low mass to make an effective bludgon. :P

I also disagree with the need and "depth" of the clip, and that this is a "full sized" grip.

Now... If they made it in steel. And maybe added a 1/4" socket stud on the base so I could use it with sockets and use extensions to make a full sized grip...

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2018, 04:04:45 PM »
And as soon as I posted, I remembered what this thing reminds me of.

The True Utility Hand Span!
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 10:49:53 PM »
Ordered one... now we wait :ahhh

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2018, 03:16:37 AM »
I like this style of adjustable wrench.

But... I think I want it in steel. Most of the nuts I'd apply it to are steel, and while Ti is the sexy metal and utterly blingtastic, it's not harder than steel. And for the not-steel nuts, it's too low mass to make an effective bludgon. :P

I also disagree with the need and "depth" of the clip, and that this is a "full sized" grip.

Now... If they made it in steel. And maybe added a 1/4" socket stud on the base so I could use it with sockets and use extensions to make a full sized grip...

 :iagree:

Titanium isn't the right material for a high torque list, IMO. Should be steel. But then, why not just carry a small (4") adjustable wrench  :dunno:
« Last Edit: November 10, 2018, 03:20:10 AM by gustophersmob »

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2018, 01:00:38 PM »
Because then they wouldn't make any money.  :P

Def

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #9 on: November 10, 2018, 06:31:00 PM »
I like this style of adjustable wrench.

But... I think I want it in steel. Most of the nuts I'd apply it to are steel, and while Ti is the sexy metal and utterly blingtastic, it's not harder than steel. And for the not-steel nuts, it's too low mass to make an effective bludgon. :P

I also disagree with the need and "depth" of the clip, and that this is a "full sized" grip.

Now... If they made it in steel. And maybe added a 1/4" socket stud on the base so I could use it with sockets and use extensions to make a full sized grip...

 :iagree:

Titanium isn't the right material for a high torque list, IMO. Should be steel. But then, why not just carry a small (4") adjustable wrench  :dunno:
its too small for "high torque", its also too expensive for rough use. Considering small Ti-prybars I would say it should be able withstand what you give it as long as you are not going to use additional lever.
Its both pocket-able, small, light and looks good, the price is probably the major downside.

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #10 on: November 10, 2018, 06:39:01 PM »
Because then they wouldn't make any money.  :P

Def
Funny part is that sometimes stuff sells better when it is a bit more expensive. Often you sell cheap or you sell expensive and there is nothing in-between. The EDC crowd is more than willing to pay a bit extra, after all our gear is also our jewelry.
People who wear a Breitling watch instead of a cheap Casio
Fällkniven istead of Mora
Charge instead of the Wave
There might be little to no difference to other offerings except for luxury/style/design. And there are plenty of people willing to pay for that.

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #11 on: December 21, 2018, 10:08:03 AM »
Because then they wouldn't make any money.  :P

Def
Funny part is that sometimes stuff sells better when it is a bit more expensive. Often you sell cheap or you sell expensive and there is nothing in-between. The EDC crowd is more than willing to pay a bit extra, after all our gear is also our jewelry.
People who wear a Breitling watch instead of a cheap Casio
Fällkniven istead of Mora
Charge instead of the Wave
There might be little to no difference to other offerings except for luxury/style/design. And there are plenty of people willing to pay for that.
Including me... my pre-ordered wrench just shipped :D

Emergency Kit: Ovo Sport, chocolate, cheese, crispbread and a coin
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #12 on: December 21, 2018, 12:16:10 PM »
 :o

 :like:

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #13 on: December 21, 2018, 12:25:50 PM »
I like this style of adjustable wrench.

But... I think I want it in steel. Most of the nuts I'd apply it to are steel, and while Ti is the sexy metal and utterly blingtastic, it's not harder than steel. And for the not-steel nuts, it's too low mass to make an effective bludgon. :P

I also disagree with the need and "depth" of the clip, and that this is a "full sized" grip.

Now... If they made it in steel. And maybe added a 1/4" socket stud on the base so I could use it with sockets and use extensions to make a full sized grip...

 :iagree:

Titanium isn't the right material for a high torque list, IMO. Should be steel. But then, why not just carry a small (4") adjustable wrench  :dunno:

  Been trying to find an alloy version so it is not as heavy to carry yet still strong. Everything now seems to be cast metal and is far too heavy to carry. Remember, not everyone weighs the same, and some us prefer lighter loads.

  As for the design, meh. Still rather have something that I submitted to Leatherman ages ago...

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #14 on: December 21, 2018, 12:54:14 PM »
I like this style of adjustable wrench.

But... I think I want it in steel. Most of the nuts I'd apply it to are steel, and while Ti is the sexy metal and utterly blingtastic, it's not harder than steel. And for the not-steel nuts, it's too low mass to make an effective bludgon. :P

I also disagree with the need and "depth" of the clip, and that this is a "full sized" grip.

Now... If they made it in steel. And maybe added a 1/4" socket stud on the base so I could use it with sockets and use extensions to make a full sized grip...

 :iagree:

Titanium isn't the right material for a high torque list, IMO. Should be steel. But then, why not just carry a small (4") adjustable wrench  :dunno:

  Been trying to find an alloy version so it is not as heavy to carry yet still strong. Everything now seems to be cast metal and is far too heavy to carry. Remember, not everyone weighs the same, and some us prefer lighter loads.

  As for the design, meh. Still rather have something that I submitted to Leatherman ages ago...
Brooks has one that is small and neat

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2018, 02:14:57 PM »
Because then they wouldn't make any money.  :P

Def
Funny part is that sometimes stuff sells better when it is a bit more expensive. Often you sell cheap or you sell expensive and there is nothing in-between. The EDC crowd is more than willing to pay a bit extra, after all our gear is also our jewelry.
People who wear a Breitling watch instead of a cheap Casio
Fällkniven istead of Mora
Charge instead of the Wave
There might be little to no difference to other offerings except for luxury/style/design. And there are plenty of people willing to pay for that.
Including me... my pre-ordered wrench just shipped :D

:worthless:

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2018, 06:59:15 PM »
Because then they wouldn't make any money.  :P

Def
Funny part is that sometimes stuff sells better when it is a bit more expensive. Often you sell cheap or you sell expensive and there is nothing in-between. The EDC crowd is more than willing to pay a bit extra, after all our gear is also our jewelry.
People who wear a Breitling watch instead of a cheap Casio
Fällkniven istead of Mora
Charge instead of the Wave
There might be little to no difference to other offerings except for luxury/style/design. And there are plenty of people willing to pay for that.
Including me... my pre-ordered wrench just shipped :D

:worthless:
As requested

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2018, 07:04:34 PM »
Because then they wouldn't make any money.  :P

Def
Funny part is that sometimes stuff sells better when it is a bit more expensive. Often you sell cheap or you sell expensive and there is nothing in-between. The EDC crowd is more than willing to pay a bit extra, after all our gear is also our jewelry.
People who wear a Breitling watch instead of a cheap Casio
Fällkniven istead of Mora
Charge instead of the Wave
There might be little to no difference to other offerings except for luxury/style/design. And there are plenty of people willing to pay for that.
Including me... my pre-ordered wrench just shipped :D

:worthless:
As requested

I was thinking about the wrench when it arrived, but it's good to be kept in the loop...

 :cheers: :tu:

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It is just a matter of time before they add the word “Syndrome” after my last name.

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Eff the ineffable, scrut the inscrutable.

IYCRTYSWTMTFOT

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2018, 08:23:33 PM »
I like this style of adjustable wrench.

But... I think I want it in steel. Most of the nuts I'd apply it to are steel, and while Ti is the sexy metal and utterly blingtastic, it's not harder than steel. And for the not-steel nuts, it's too low mass to make an effective bludgon. :P

I also disagree with the need and "depth" of the clip, and that this is a "full sized" grip.

Now... If they made it in steel. And maybe added a 1/4" socket stud on the base so I could use it with sockets and use extensions to make a full sized grip...

 :iagree:

Titanium isn't the right material for a high torque list, IMO. Should be steel. But then, why not just carry a small (4") adjustable wrench  :dunno:

  Been trying to find an alloy version so it is not as heavy to carry yet still strong. Everything now seems to be cast metal and is far too heavy to carry. Remember, not everyone weighs the same, and some us prefer lighter loads.

  As for the design, meh. Still rather have something that I submitted to Leatherman ages ago...
Brooks has one that is small and neat

Now that I'm back riding a bike I don't think I can resist tools like that even if I wont use them much.

After the coffee I'm drinking now I'll be putting a new chain on the kids bike with a gerber cool tool.   :angel:
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #19 on: December 22, 2018, 04:59:25 AM »
I have seen a design like this being sold at Home Depot a few months ago..  :think:

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2019, 10:13:36 PM »
Finally arrived today... shiny :D :mail:

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #21 on: January 11, 2019, 10:28:10 PM »
That looks sweet !  congrats  :cheers:
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #22 on: January 12, 2019, 04:07:24 PM »
That looks so :o and 8) congrats on that one Eth :like: let us know how well it works  :cheers: :tu:
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2019, 12:49:33 PM »
Finally arrived today... shiny :D :mail:

That is cool Etherealicer ! :like: :tu: :tu:
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2019, 01:04:07 PM »
Sexy tool! I'm drooling here  :drool: :drool:
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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2019, 06:57:01 PM »
Finally arrived today... shiny :D :mail:

Looks great! It has a sort of olive drabish look to it...

 :cheers: :tu:

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2019, 08:16:02 PM »
Ti Wrench VERSUS Lux Tools 100mm wrench.

Just a comparison of the Ti Wrench with a garden variety adjustable wrench.

     TiWrench     Lux Tools
Weight     50g (without Clip/Lanyard)     40g
Max. Opening     19mm     15mm
Price     Bloody expensive     Cheap
Style     Oh yeah     Not really

So, there is a slight advantage with how wide open the jaws for the Ti wrench. A droptest also showed that the Ti wrench holds a bit better to a nut than the regular adjustable wrench (the regular wrench looses the nut at about 10cm, where as the Ti wrench does 20cm) and does need slightly less room to operate.
Is it worth the price though? Probably not, unless you are really about style and like EDC jewlery.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2019, 08:17:03 PM by Etherealicer »

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Re: New Ti Pocket Wrench
« Reply #27 on: January 17, 2019, 11:53:54 PM »
Am I reading this right, they want 120 dollars for this thing? ...or am I stoned or drunk ...or maybe both?


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