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Fake MP600 from Amazon? 530

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Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« on: October 31, 2018, 11:44:38 PM »
bought the MP600 basic from Amazon and I noticed it has a few odd things. 

First of all, it doesn't have USA stamped on it, also one of the washers is oddly thicker, pliers shape on the side really looks like on the fake E.D.T topic, and overall the tool feels a little wobbly, which I wouldn't have minded if not the tools themselves wobbled while in locked position. 

Overall it's great, I just want to make sure it's genuine.

Some pics:
https://ibb.co/iEKt00
https://ibb.co/iMG1nf
https://ibb.co/dEA5DL
https://ibb.co/hnCVf0
https://ibb.co/fRBO00

Sorry for posting links instead of direct pictures but it didn't work


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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2018, 12:09:33 AM »
You are safe. Its a authentic Gerber Mp600.
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2018, 12:39:22 AM »
Sorry for posting links instead of direct pictures but it didn't work

Next time try the bbcode link, it's two below the image link that you used.
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2018, 12:39:44 AM »





Added pics for you  :tu:
Looks good to me, at least it's not got carbide cutters :multi:

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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2018, 02:18:20 AM »
Yeah, Gerber got the ole' kick in the butt about putting USA on their tools when they are assembled here with a majority of overseas parts. The Center-Drive is their only multi tool currently manufactured/assembled almost completely here in te U.S. :)

The new stamping does look nicer than the old stamping though. :woohoo:

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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2018, 03:28:37 AM »
Yeah, Gerber got the ole' kick in the butt about putting USA on their tools when they are assembled here with a majority of overseas parts. The Center-Drive is their only multi tool currently manufactured/assembled almost completely here in te U.S. :)

The new stamping does look nicer than the old stamping though. :woohoo:

+1000 to what GLBM said. The new stamping is gorgeous. But I cannot understand the consistency behind it. Some older MPs with without the carbide carries the nice insignia. And the supposingly newer ones current gen with carbide cutters are just stamped GERBER..  :think:
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2018, 03:58:58 AM »
 :iagree:
I think Gerber just throws whatever excess parts together sometimes to use up stock. Hodgepodge. :facepalm:

Heck, the stamping quality varies greatly on tool models sometimes. :dunno:

Main collections: SOG, Gerber, Leatherman, Victorinox. Also lots of cheap & cheerful tools.
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2018, 02:20:37 PM »
Not to get political, yesterday, to replace a cheap supermarket plastic snow shovel broken in storage, I bought a True Temper coal shovel (because they're the only snow shovel that stands up to heavy snow and heavy abuse)--marked "ASSEMBLED IN USA" complete with a red, white and blue sticker.   Stamped on the actual shovel part--MADE IN CHINA. To me, don't even bother mentioning the term USA, unless at least 70 percent of its parts come from here. Surprised we haven't changed the law from the 30% or something it currently is to be marked "MADE IN USA".

This is the newest version of the MP600 frame, replacing the old version used about 20 years.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2018, 03:00:07 PM by cody6268 »
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2018, 02:56:19 PM »
Huh, this is the first time I've seen the new stamping... I like it  :tu:
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2018, 08:41:49 PM »
Not to get political, yesterday, to replace a cheap supermarket plastic snow shovel broken in storage, I bought a True Temper coal shovel (because they're the only snow shovel that stands up to heavy snow and heavy abuse)--marked "ASSEMBLED IN USA" complete with a red, white and blue sticker.   Stamped on the actual shovel part--MADE IN CHINA. To me, don't even bother mentioning the term USA, unless at least 70 percent of its parts come from here. Surprised we haven't changed the law from the 30% or something it currently is to be marked "MADE IN USA".

This is the newest version of the MP600 frame, replacing the old version used about 20 years.
Yes! No worries, because it isn't political. It is just misleading corporate tactics brought on hy shear greed.
It's a huge problem. It's even being done in Europe. There was a big scandal with Swiss watch companies putting 'Swiss Made' on movements, when 49% of parts were made in China. It is a wide spread problem and I hope it gets sorted soon.
Leatherman got hit really hard with penalties back in the early 2000s(California sued them for misrepresentation), resulting in removal of U.S.A from the tools. They had plier heads cast in Mexico and then machined in Oregon. I wish every company would get exposed for just assembling, but marking made. At least we are seeing more 'assembled in U.S.A' now, when it's not  really produced in the U.S.A.


Main collections: SOG, Gerber, Leatherman, Victorinox. Also lots of cheap & cheerful tools.
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #10 on: November 05, 2018, 10:52:35 AM »
Exactly same one as mine. Yeah, it is not fake, I am sure.  Just new stamping.
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #11 on: November 05, 2018, 02:17:43 PM »
To me this raises an important question, do fake standard (non-DET) MP600s exist? There are the Carolina KNife and Tool and Winchester "Mr. Pinchy" tools, but those are pretty much just low end budget models using the same patents (and Gerber owns Carolina Knife and Tool, and Carolina has the Winchester license)
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2018, 02:35:01 PM »
To me this raises an important question, do fake standard (non-DET) MP600s exist? There are the Carolina KNife and Tool and Winchester "Mr. Pinchy" tools, but those are pretty much just low end budget models using the same patents (and Gerber owns Carolina Knife and Tool, and Carolina has the Winchester license)

Have never seen one or heard of one. It's always the Det model that fake. Strange that they chose this particular one...
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2018, 02:44:24 PM »
Sam,
Remember when the Gerber MP600DET was selling for stupid high money? Around $80-$100 at one point(I see them for $50-$80 now). That is about when the fakes came along. I don't think it would make sense to fake a regular MP600, since those are $30-$45 usually. I've seen the Basics go for $34.99 near where I like.

Main collections: SOG, Gerber, Leatherman, Victorinox. Also lots of cheap & cheerful tools.
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #14 on: November 05, 2018, 04:17:10 PM »
Sam,
Remember when the Gerber MP600DET was selling for stupid high money? Around $80-$100 at one point(I see them for $50-$80 now). That is about when the fakes came along. I don't think it would make sense to fake a regular MP600, since those are $30-$45 usually. I've seen the Basics go for $34.99 near where I like.

I am rather late to this MT orgy.. When I first seen the fake ones, they are already like around $15usd from where I am.. The basics from here they are selling at around $70usd now in retail stores.....
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2018, 07:07:21 AM »
Seventy clams for a Basic MP600? Seems like highway robbery.  :ahhh Still better than paying $15 for those horrible fakes. I actually regret buying two of them (one for myself and one for Lynn to review). :facepalm:
I put real MP pliers in mine for a while, but then believed that to be disrespectful of the MP line and put the misaligned crap-jaws back in. :rofl:

Main collections: SOG, Gerber, Leatherman, Victorinox. Also lots of cheap & cheerful tools.
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Re: Fake MP600 from Amazon?
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2018, 08:53:07 PM »
Not to get political, yesterday, to replace a cheap supermarket plastic snow shovel broken in storage, I bought a True Temper coal shovel (because they're the only snow shovel that stands up to heavy snow and heavy abuse)--marked "ASSEMBLED IN USA" complete with a red, white and blue sticker.   Stamped on the actual shovel part--MADE IN CHINA. To me, don't even bother mentioning the term USA, unless at least 70 percent of its parts come from here. Surprised we haven't changed the law from the 30% or something it currently is to be marked "MADE IN USA".

This is the newest version of the MP600 frame, replacing the old version used about 20 years.

   Made in the USA and assembled in the USA are not the same thing. Like somebody else mentioned, this is misleading. With that being said, I thought the 600 line was USA made! :think:

 

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