I'm not a wimp that's afraid of knives, but the Civilian and relatives scare the living daylights out of me everytime I see one. Like some kind of horror movie weapon! I know it's main purpose is as a self-defense weapon, I feel the mere sight of this knife would turn most criminals away. But I still want one for some reason, even though my needs are perfectly served by the Ladybug Hawkbill.
Quote from: cody6268 on November 11, 2018, 01:46:15 AMI'm not a wimp that's afraid of knives, but the Civilian and relatives scare the living daylights out of me everytime I see one. Like some kind of horror movie weapon! I know it's main purpose is as a self-defense weapon, I feel the mere sight of this knife would turn most criminals away. But I still want one for some reason, even though my needs are perfectly served by the Ladybug Hawkbill.Unfortunately, there is no cure for stupidity. A dedicated or motivated attacker, will attack. Just as trained and motivated defenders will defend from that same attack. I wish more criminals were required to read and take tests on various correct articles of successfully defended attacks / home invasions. Unfortunately, that doesn't make for 'sensational copy' and it is very hard to find, while almost every single case of a verified 'victim' who was also the attacker / home invader has been reported to the news about the 'evil gun owner'. It is also a lack of training on the gun owners part and they make mistakes. It is very hard to find examples of successful defense by a trained and situationally aware citizen. Most cops lack the proper training and constant state of 'awareness' that is required of them. It is not the officers fault. They are over worked, under trained because of budget restrictions and do their very best with the resources, backup and sleep time that they get.I can not find the original 'article' that was circulated as it has probably been removed after being verified as FALSE. The original 'article' explained how the girl was a skeet shooter and highly placed in her age bracket, It also went on to explain how the weapons were stored in the house and how she had access because of her level of training. Although the article was FALSE, is still provided an example of proper training. Here is the article about the original article being false: ...a little girl from Montana killing home invaders...MTO_FKnife_01 by Grandpa Patch, on FlickrCriminals will attack regardless for what 'tool' you carry openly. Just look at the many different, multinational issues with police being attacked while they are carrying a 'tool' openly. A motivated attacker will attack regardless of what you carry. Same as a motivated thief / home invader will break into the 'wrong house' and end up visiting the morgue. I will ask this one question: Do you leave your kids at home alone?
Grandpa, I have to disagree with you, at least in part. In my experience, if someone on the street is going to attack you, they are not going to square up on you and challenge you, giving you time to react and defend yourself. Having worked the doors in many bars in numerous cities I can tell you that the usual method is to distract someone then cold cock them or stun them by slamming them into a wall. While the person is incapacitated, Bad Guy X will grab things out of your pockets and be long gone before you know what is going on.Or, as is more and more common, bad guys will just swarm the victim, each one pushing, punching or kicking the victim until they are incapacitated at which point the victim's belongings are grabbed at like goodies from a burst pinata. And, if anyone ever does try to square up on you and mug you Hollywood style, check your six because someone is moving in- the first bad guy is very likely a distraction. The only way to train for defense in these situations isn't ninja-ing about with a blade or carrying a firearm, pepper spray or anything else. It's all about situational awareness, recognizing the situations before it becomes an issue and doing what you can to get yourself out before it is too late. Often times these types, once noticed, are no longer threats, because they are no longer protected by the element of surprise and they don't ant to get their hands dirty.Def
Just noticed that Janich included a photo of the Civilian with the brown FRN and this doesn't look like that. It looks more like G-10 and it really does look orange. Still a mystery.
Are you sure about that pocket clip? Janich mentioned the C shaped, reversible pocket clip with 3 screws in his article so I thought it was correct for a 2000's era Civilian. I don't feel bad at all because I didn't spend a lot of money on this knife, and I've had some fun using it in the garden in the last couple of days. I don't believe the seller intentionally sold me a fake either.
Thanks for the clarification. It is a well built knife. The only thing wrong with it is it is not a Spyderco. It's great for trimming stems though.
Went to a flea market at a local church today and found these three
Perhaps the Devil made him do it.
I know its not a tool, or a knifeIt does not even come close to resembling either of those things.But I hit the jackpot on an online auction this week.I have wanted one of these things since I was a kid, my parents could not afford it because they were quite poor.And I picked this little beauty up for $8.00, yep $8.00 plus $8.15 postage.All cast, slightly used, but fully perfect, and its ALL MINE......
Nice find V Love T2 and T4 - great condition too. Are you going to play with them? I know I would!
Quote from: Valkie on November 15, 2018, 09:26:23 PMI know its not a tool, or a knifeIt does not even come close to resembling either of those things.But I hit the jackpot on an online auction this week.I have wanted one of these things since I was a kid, my parents could not afford it because they were quite poor.And I picked this little beauty up for $8.00, yep $8.00 plus $8.15 postage.All cast, slightly used, but fully perfect, and its ALL MINE......Really nice find Valkie - And what a great price and condition I would say Thunderbird 2 was the ultimate multitool - Just look at all the gadgets and tools and machines that it carried Remember the drill thing that dug into the ground ? That and T4 were my favourite T2 carries!I remember this toy from when I was a kid - I never had it But some of my friends did - I was so enviousThat little T4 inside the T2 was amazing