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A little SAK magic
on: January 04, 2019, 03:15:49 AM
This will be nothing new to you guys, but I'm still delighted at how nicely SAK's clean up.

I ordered some stuff from the MTo a little while ago, and thought I'd splurge and get one of the random, used Spartans on offer there.  Well, it arrived today.




So.... :o....OK....it wasn't the prettiest thing ever..... Maybe one day I'd try to sit down and salvage it....or some parts from it...eventually.

But as I handled it I started to become fond of it. There is just something inherently charming about a Spartan for me. Perhaps it's their quintessential 'SAKness'.

This knife clearly had some stories. The tools were all in good shape, but clearly showed some use. The toothpick had been chewed. The scales were pitted and dull.

I noticed the cool old crossbow logo... Nice!




So that makes it a pre-2005 Spartan..... But the corkscrew was four turns and had no groves: a child of the nineties? Maybe as late as 2005.

I wanted a better look at the crossbow logo, so I ran the Spartan under some hot water and wiped away some crud.  And then I found myself cleaning the whole knife up a bit more.

The action was really sluggish and slow. None of the blades had any 'snap', and the small pen blade felt 'gritty' when opening. But...it was cleaning up pretty well.

I put the Spartan in a bowl of hot water and some Simple Green. While it soaked, I went and found a toothbrush (Mrs Nix's, not mine, duh). With a little brushing and a little more rinsing and a little more working the blades open and closed, the action magically improved. The little Spartan had found it's snap!

After it seemed like it was cleaned up nicely and the action had improved incredibly well, I went and got some Novus plastic polish and spent a few minutes polishing up the scales. The dull flat black scales started to come back to life. Some dings remained, but dang this Spartan was starting to look good!




At this point, I had about 15 minutes and $3 invested in this project. And I was having a blast. It was hugely satisfying, as a SAK fan, to take a disused SAK and bring it back to life. Like magic.

The blades still need to be sharpened--I'll get to that over the weekend--but I gave it new T&T. I'll make a lanyard for it also. It will be a user. It will develop more scars and more stories and I'll keep having fun with it.

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« Last Edit: January 04, 2019, 04:53:42 AM by Nix »
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #1 on: January 04, 2019, 03:34:08 AM
Nothing like finding a 'rescue', and turning-it into a valued member of the collection.  Result:  happy ending!! :hatsoff:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #2 on: January 04, 2019, 03:35:21 AM
 :tu:   :cheers:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #3 on: January 04, 2019, 03:48:06 AM
I want to find that offer when the store opens back up now!

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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #4 on: January 04, 2019, 04:00:31 AM
That is a great rescue! Will look for that Nexus plastic polish.  :hatsoff: :cheers:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #5 on: January 04, 2019, 04:56:27 AM
Quote from: Rapidray on January 04, 2019, 04:00:31 AM
That is a great rescue! Will look for that Nexus plastic polish.  :hatsoff: :cheers:

Sorry, Ray. I mis-typed there. The product is actually 'Novus'.




This product was recommended to me for removing scratches from motorcycle helmet visors and windscreens. For the Spartan above, I used all three, starting with #3 and working my way down to #1. #1 leaves celidor shiny and slick!
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #6 on: January 04, 2019, 04:59:48 AM
I could probably use some of that  :like:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #7 on: January 04, 2019, 05:02:56 AM
 :tu:  Works well.
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #8 on: January 04, 2019, 05:16:15 AM
Just more proof when it comes to SAKs magic really does exist. 
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #9 on: January 04, 2019, 07:05:11 AM
Quote from: Nix on January 04, 2019, 04:56:27 AM
Quote from: Rapidray on January 04, 2019, 04:00:31 AM
That is a great rescue! Will look for that Nexus plastic polish.  :hatsoff: :cheers:

Sorry, Ray. I mis-typed there. The product is actually 'Novus'.

(Image removed from quote.)


This product was recommended to me for removing scratches from motorcycle helmet visors and windscreens. For the Spartan above, I used all three, starting with #3 and working my way down to #1. #1 leaves celidor shiny and slick!
Not a problem...thanks!  :hatsoff:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #10 on: January 04, 2019, 07:40:53 AM
Nice job, that cleaned up really well    :tu:

I need to get some of that plastic polish,  thanks for the info
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #11 on: January 04, 2019, 11:30:16 AM
Good job!  :like:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #12 on: January 04, 2019, 11:57:45 AM
Well done mate.  :salute: Old Spartans really are lovely... now fondle that SAK!!!  :ahhh
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #13 on: January 04, 2019, 12:02:07 PM
Great resultsl  :hatsoff:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #14 on: January 04, 2019, 12:17:13 PM
It's incredible how well they clean up! Great job Nix  :cheers:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #15 on: January 04, 2019, 12:47:12 PM
Very nice! Now I want to clean my SAK…

Need to find something in The Netherlands to make the scales on my Wenger shiny again.
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #16 on: January 04, 2019, 02:47:21 PM
Thanks, guys!  A lot of fun.

Serena, Mechanickal found something in Belgium that works for him. It might be a French headlamp polish. He posted  it in a thread here somewhere.  But I bet and motorcycle or scooter shop would have a similar product.
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #17 on: January 04, 2019, 03:28:10 PM
Quote from: Nix on January 04, 2019, 03:15:49 AM
This will be nothing new to you guys, but I'm still delighted at how nicely SAK's clean up.

I ordered some stuff from the MTo a little while ago, and thought I'd splurge and get one of the random, used Spartans on offer there.  Well, it arrived today.



Nice pics and great job cleaning the Spartan up Nix! :like: :tu: :tu: :cheers:

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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #18 on: January 04, 2019, 03:50:23 PM
 :cheers:  Thanks, VICMAN! 
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #19 on: January 04, 2019, 04:18:00 PM
I too enjoy the restoration process on knifes and tools.  Its relaxing to sit and clean up the blade and scales getting them pocket ready.  Very nicely done.  :like:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #20 on: January 04, 2019, 04:28:39 PM
Quote from: Serena on January 04, 2019, 12:47:12 PM
Very nice! Now I want to clean my SAK…

Need to find something in The Netherlands to make the scales on my Wenger shiny again.

I use a German product called Quixx and can report that it works very well.  I would expect you could find it in Holland. 

Nix, great work on restoring this Spartan!  I also use Simple Green for my soak and cleaning phase.  I've left a SAK in 1:1 diluted Simple Green for up to a week and forgotten about it.  The first time it happened I was a little worried that the scales might be damaged, but I needn't have been concerned as they are totally unharmed by this and emerge sparkling clean. 

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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #21 on: January 04, 2019, 04:33:58 PM
Quote from: Myron on January 04, 2019, 04:28:39 PM
Quote from: Serena on January 04, 2019, 12:47:12 PM
Very nice! Now I want to clean my SAK…

Need to find something in The Netherlands to make the scales on my Wenger shiny again.

I use a German product called Quixx and can report that it works very well.  I would expect you could find it in Holland. 

Nix, great work on restoring this Spartan!  I also use Simple Green for my soak and cleaning phase.  I've left a SAK in 1:1 diluted Simple Green for up to a week and forgotten about it.  The first time it happened I was a little worried that the scales might be damaged, but I needn't have been concerned as they are totally unharmed by this and emerge sparkling clean.
A week...wow...life must have really gotten busy for you!  :tu:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #22 on: January 04, 2019, 05:34:40 PM
Great job Jack and I agree about the Spartan... there is just something about them that I love.  It's always great to bring something back to life!!
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #23 on: January 04, 2019, 06:05:15 PM
Quote from: Barry Rowland on January 04, 2019, 05:34:40 PM
Great job Jack and I agree about the Spartan... there is just something about them that I love.  It's always great to bring something back to life!!
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #24 on: January 04, 2019, 06:26:11 PM
Quote from: Rapidray on January 04, 2019, 04:33:58 PM

A week...wow...life must have really gotten busy for you!  :tu:

great job, Nix!
It is indeed a pleasure to bring them back to life in a few steps  :tu:

Ray, I once left a few metallic cable ties that had been rusting in the rain outside in a glass with vinegar, but then saw a huge spider on a corner of the room. Glass still in hand, I escalated my way to the top corner of the room to kill it, and left the glass in between two old boxes for a minute.
After smashing the spider I went to wash my hands and forgot what I was originally doing. :dunno:
Phone rang, life happened...

Eight months later the vinegar glass fell on me when pulling out one of the boxes  :facepalm:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #25 on: January 04, 2019, 06:35:40 PM
Quote from: ThePeacent on January 04, 2019, 06:26:11 PM
Quote from: Rapidray on January 04, 2019, 04:33:58 PM

A week...wow...life must have really gotten busy for you!  :tu:

great job, Nix!
It is indeed a pleasure to bring them back to life in a few steps  :tu:

Ray, I once left a few metallic cable ties that had been rusting in the rain outside in a glass with vinegar, but then saw a huge spider on a corner of the room. Glass still in hand, I escalated my way to the top corner of the room to kill it, and left the glass in between two old boxes for a minute.
After smashing the spider I went to wash my hands and forgot what I was originally doing. :dunno:
Phone rang, life happened...

Eight months later the vinegar glass fell on me when pulling out one of the boxes  :facepalm:
:rofl:
Oh no! Life happens!  :hatsoff:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #26 on: January 05, 2019, 01:40:02 AM
Awesome SAK magic Jack  :like:

... suddenly I want to burry one of my SAK's in the garden till summer to rotten a bit only to dig it out again and do the same magic just for fun?  :D

Btw, what did you do to remove the rust?
And what is that green stuff please?  :pok:
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #27 on: January 05, 2019, 03:00:54 AM
Matt,

Simple Green is a biodegradable, all-purpose clean/degreaser. I have to say, it has become my go-to cleaner for numerous chores, from cleaning SAK's to cleaning the grill. It does an amazing job....on everything.




I'm not sure it can be found outside the US, although I think they have ambitions to market it world-wide. 

Initially I thought the Spartan was badly rusted. But what appeared to be rust was mostly grime. The Simple Green and hot water, with a bit of scrubbing, cleaned it off nicely!   :tu:

p.s. I don't advocate SAK abuse or mistreatment, but I bet Grant has another couple of grungy SAK's at the MTo store that would love new homes with caring Swiss Army Knights!
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #28 on: January 05, 2019, 03:24:32 AM
Quote from: Nix on January 05, 2019, 03:00:54 AM
p.s. I don't advocate SAK abuse or mistreatment, but I bet Grant has another couple of grungy SAK's at the MTo store that would love new homes with caring Swiss Army Knights!

I want one  :gimme:
~CsB
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Re: A little SAK magic
Reply #29 on: January 05, 2019, 03:34:37 AM
And I want another.....  :cheers:
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