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SEALs gear and tools
on: January 05, 2019, 05:19:21 PM
Hey, peeps, I found this interesting bit of info on another forum and thought to share. :salute:
This is the knife display at the USN UDT/SEAL Museum located in Ft Pierce Florida. This is what some SEAL teams carry or have carried in their missions  :o





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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #1 on: January 05, 2019, 05:26:56 PM
I see 2 SAKs and 4 MTs in there.  You don't happen to know what models do you?
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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #2 on: January 05, 2019, 05:35:36 PM
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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #3 on: January 05, 2019, 08:09:46 PM
The 3rd knife in the middle row looks a bit unpractical?

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Reply #4 on: January 05, 2019, 08:25:22 PM
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Reply #5 on: January 05, 2019, 08:46:42 PM
RF, are you referring to this one?




It was called the 'BuckMaster'.  It was developed by Buck as a 'survival knife' possibly with the SEALs in mind (?).  The two spikes on the guard are removable (for normal use). The spikes get installed to transform the Buck 184 into a grapnel hook. I think the handle is hollow, intended to be used to stash 'survival' gear.

I've heard that the knife actually gets pretty good reviews....except it's very heavy. I think the weight killed it and the 184 got dropped. Apparently the 184 inspired the 185, the BuckMaster LT:




I don't know much about the 185 knife, but it does look lighter!
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Reply #6 on: January 05, 2019, 08:48:51 PM
Found this about the 185:

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The Buck Model 185 was not made very long and discontinued in 1989. According to Joe Houser at Buck Knives there where only about 6000 made from 1986 to 1989. Joe said "1986 we made 4000. We only made another 2000 before dropping it from the line in 1989".
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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #7 on: January 05, 2019, 08:59:52 PM
Nix is there anything you don't know?
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Reply #8 on: January 05, 2019, 09:09:20 PM
I've discussed knives with a few SEALs, mostly older SEALs, most of them liked the Kabar USMC knives, but the Mk3 Dive knife was also popular, despite the weak tip.

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I guess SEALs are not gentle with their gear; I had one SEAL tell me he would never carry an expensive knife because he was just to hard on them. These guys also developed a non-magnetic knife for underwater work. I think it's at the bottom of the row with the BuckMaster. I forget the name of that one (MPK maybe?).

With regard to SAK's I know a couple of SEALs mentioned to me that they like SAK's with saw blades, but I don't recall a specific model. I'd be willing to bet the Camper or Farmer would be a prime choice, but I wouldn't bet against a Fieldmaster.

It always seemed to me that I was much fussier about the knives I carried than were the SEALs I've met and talked with. Always a mistake to generalize, but as a bunch they seem like pretty pragmatic people.

I don't know if today's SEALs have been bitten by the knife bug and are using fancier stuff. At one point, I thought I had heard Cold Steel's SRK was being used in training. Most military PX's carry the SRK as well as still carrying the venerable USMC Kabar.

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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #9 on: January 05, 2019, 09:09:49 PM
Quote from: styx on January 05, 2019, 08:59:52 PM
Nix is there anything you don't know?

I don't know?


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Reply #10 on: January 05, 2019, 09:10:45 PM
I've been alive for a while and I've picked up a few things along the way.  :D

The older I get, the more I realize how much I don't know!   :rofl:
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Reply #11 on: January 05, 2019, 09:40:28 PM
As cool as the SEALs are in song and story, they are probably victim to the same foibles as any government org, and have a lot of gear decided by committee (or contract), which may or may not meet the original intent or requirements of the user.

the user themselves is also not necessarily objective in their criteria and selection, and officially requested gear, or privately purchased gear, is just as likely to be affected by personal whims or fantasies.


of cause, I'd be putting whole departments of colonels and aides, hangers-on, speech writers, misc support staff out of business if I just said "All Government agencies get Mora Knives, move on" the economy would probably collapse.


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Reply #12 on: January 06, 2019, 12:18:07 AM
Quote from: Nix on January 05, 2019, 08:46:42 PM
RF, are you referring to this one?

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It was called the 'BuckMaster'.  It was developed by Buck as a 'survival knife' possibly with the SEALs in mind (?).  The two spikes on the guard are removable (for normal use). The spikes get installed to transform the Buck 184 into a grapnel hook. I think the handle is hollow, intended to be used to stash 'survival' gear.

I've heard that the knife actually gets pretty good reviews....except it's very heavy. I think the weight killed it and the 184 got dropped. Apparently the 184 inspired the 185, the BuckMaster LT:

(Image removed from quote.)


I don't know much about the 185 knife, but it does look lighter!
That's the one I still think it looks awkward to use even if the grappling hook conversion makes it kind of cool!

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Reply #13 on: January 06, 2019, 01:52:26 AM
Does anyone know what the folder? is in the top left hand corner?

The SAKs:

Victorinox Explorer (in fact, if you zoom in; you cansee it clearly)

And Victorinox C-something another. By the length of the word, guessing Champion or Craftsman, likely the latter more than former.

Gerbers:

MP600SS, MP600BO, MP600DET.
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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #14 on: January 06, 2019, 01:57:12 AM
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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #15 on: January 06, 2019, 02:01:01 AM
Quote from: cody6268 on January 06, 2019, 01:52:26 AM
Does anyone know what the folder? is in the top left hand corner?

The SAKs:

Victorinox Explorer (in fact, if you zoom in; you cansee it clearly)

And Victorinox C-something another. By the length of the word, guessing Champion or Craftsman, likely the latter more than former.

Gerbers:

MP600SS, MP600BO, MP600DET.

It's labeled as a multipurpose folding demo knife

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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #16 on: January 06, 2019, 02:38:26 AM
The Navy UDT / SEAL museum is very interesting.  I went there a couple of years ago, and of course I have the same picture of that display.  It's really hard to get the whole display in one picture because it is tall and behind glass.  If you step back far enough to get everything in one picture you're too far to clearly read the labels.  But I also took pictures showing an early Leatherman Wave, SEAL delivery vehicles outside, and the statue in front of the museum called Swim Buddies, which is dedicated to 2 SEALs who completed a mission on 31, Oct. 1972 in which both earned the Congressional Medal of Honor.
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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #17 on: January 06, 2019, 10:02:02 AM
makes sense they would use something practical. oddly enough all of my friends that are former Marines haven't moved far away from the Ka-Bar even though not all of them were issued that knife. even more odd when bumming around with them and talking with them, they managed to infect me with an affinity for sub 5" fixed blades
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Reply #18 on: January 06, 2019, 04:21:34 PM
Great thread, Peacent :tu: :like: That is very cool to see what different SEAL members have carried over the years :o :like:
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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #19 on: January 06, 2019, 06:34:51 PM
so, Swisschamp and Explorer, Gerbers (Which seems to confirm that the main issue Multi Tools are Gerbers in the US), a few Leatherman tools, KaBars, SOGs (also confirming that in their past glorious times they were involved in the military  ::)), and the one on top of the Gerber Trident at the bottom looks like a Mad Dog one?  :think:

thanks for the additional pics!  :tu:
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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #20 on: January 07, 2019, 12:03:56 AM
First Edge has been contracted since 2016, to make the new 5050 Navy SEAL blade:



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Reply #21 on: January 07, 2019, 03:01:54 AM
Thats a nice looking blade  :like:
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Reply #22 on: January 07, 2019, 05:56:14 AM
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Reply #23 on: January 07, 2019, 06:56:33 AM
It reminds me a little of the British MOD 4 issue knife, in some respects.

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Reply #24 on: January 07, 2019, 07:00:04 AM
Sorry, double-post.
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Reply #25 on: January 07, 2019, 10:25:58 AM
If I remember correctly that MOD 4 was an inspiration for the BK2
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Reply #26 on: January 19, 2019, 09:47:40 PM
I have had the pleasure to enjoy time with several former Navy veterans.  When a discussion would surface concerning equipment, as knives, MTs, and even side arms, the advice provided was usually, "whatever knife that will cut, stab, and cause blood to flow," MT that would be any issued or available, and any sidearm that "shot straight  every time the trigger  was pulled."  If tool did not performed, it likely never pulled again.

For deployments, they would take personal selected tools to have on base, usually without personal attachment, yet missions may require set specs.

Buck does have a very nice fix blade designed by a former Navy Seal, the "245".   https://www.buckknives.com/product/245-matt-would-go/0245MCSMWG2-B/     

It is one knife I know for certain was designed by a Seal and is marketed to his honor.   Presently out of stock.


   
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Reply #27 on: January 20, 2019, 05:42:58 PM
Quote from: Nix on January 05, 2019, 08:46:42 PM
RF, are you referring to this one


It was called the 'BuckMaster'.  It was developed by Buck as a 'survival knife' possibly with the SEALs in mind (?).  The two spikes on the guard are removable (for normal use). The spikes get installed to transform the Buck 184 into a grapnel hook. I think the handle is hollow, intended to be used to stash 'survival' gear.




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Reply #28 on: January 20, 2019, 10:11:34 PM
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Quote from: Nix on January 05, 2019, 08:46:42 PM
RF, are you referring to this one


It was called the 'BuckMaster'.  It was developed by Buck as a 'survival knife' possibly with the SEALs in mind (?).  The two spikes on the guard are removable (for normal use). The spikes get installed to transform the Buck 184 into a grapnel hook. I think the handle is hollow, intended to be used to stash 'survival' gear.




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Re: SEALs gear and tools
Reply #29 on: January 20, 2019, 10:42:10 PM
Sweet Buckmaster Vman !  :like: :tu:
Merit Badges Start a new thread and post a photo of the Leatherman MiniTool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the 110 knife for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread with a photo of a blood blister and Mr Pinchy (Gerber Multiplier) Participate and contribute in Challenge thread and post a photo of a different blade each day for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in Challenge thread and post a photo of a Buck 112 Ranger for thirty (30) consecutive days. Participate  in a Challenge thread and post a photo of a LM Pocket Survival Tool for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the LM Crunch  Multitool for fifteen (15) consecutive days. Participate in a challenge by carrying  a GEC knife and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the leatherman (supertool, core, hacks) for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the multitool for fifteen (15) consecutive days. Complete a 30 day challenge for carrying a different Multi tool each day of the week based on one of the daily carry threads Start a new thread and post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month. Start a new thread and post a photo of a traditional folder for thirty (30) consecutive days. Start a new thread and post a photo of the discontinued sak/mt for thirty (30) consecutive days. Must start a thread showing a photo of at least eight BO tools Start a new thread and post a picture of fire making kit or fire with a multitool Start a new thread with a photo of a modded knife or multitool with your EDC Must post a step by step pictorial of a knife or multitool modification (scale swap not included) Participate in a challenge by carrying  a Leatherman Pulse or ST200 and post a photo of it  for thirty (30) consecutive days. Only for the 14th year Anniversary Challenge. Post a photo of any gear for thirty (30) consecutive days during the MTo anniversary month.

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