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Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge

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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #120 on: February 02, 2019, 02:57:22 PM
In all honesty I think you are better off my friend!  You've found what all of us are looking for...the ideal! :D
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #121 on: February 02, 2019, 03:12:41 PM
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I too thought the Tough Tool is a little bulky Hulk'ish. :whistle:
Great compisition along side the little guys.
Thank you, Douglas! :cheers:
 :rofl: it is a large tool for sure. Surprisingly light for the size though. :)
Day2
Cutting light cardstock
Anybody who has seen a 30d of mine knows this is a daily task for me.
The blade didnt want to start but once it did it pulled through with light fethering of the cut edge. As you can see by the fuzz and that lint ball there are some dull spots in the factory edge
Though truth be told this stuff is so fibrous even the best blades have trouble cutting it cleanly.
Thank you for the info on the blade. The blade on my user TT has been sharpened, so my use of it wouldn't indicate the factory edge.

Excellent pics and uses everyone  :tu: :like:
Thanks, W! :cheers:

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Thanks, Barry! :cheers:

How does this tool compare size wise to a PST?
Will take some comparison images this evening! Please don't let me forget. :ahhh

Douglas and glbm, I've never found the short length of the cutters very good for large diameter wiring even though you can nip your way through it, I suspect that would be the same for any MT because of the cutters short lengh, lighter gauge automotive wiring is a different story, also great for cotter pins, coat hangers and snare wire
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Thanks, Greg! :cheers:
You're quite right. I was able to cut up a coat hanger like it was butter and it still cut 18g stranded wire without an issue. Just have to nip through large stuff like you said. And also pull the wire to the back of the cutters before squeezing. If they had put a hard wire notch in there, it would have been much easier to cut wire. Victorinox has a second notch in their small cutters that stops the wire being cut from slipping away as well. :)
I may file a hard wire notch into my cutter, but they work well enough to complete the challenge.  :cheers:

Day 2

I used the unusual Awl to put an extra hole in my belt
That is an interesting tool. I believe it is listed as a "scribe". But, it makes quick work of blister packs. The same tool on the Taylor version is only good for poking a router's reset button. :ahhh

In all honesty I think you are better off my friend!  You've found what all of us are looking for...the ideal! :D
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« Last Edit: February 02, 2019, 03:14:22 PM by gerleatherberman »
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #122 on: February 02, 2019, 03:14:46 PM
Barry, in all honesty for me anyway, paired with a SAK the MT becomes little more than folding pliers and I think these first generation ones would be hard to beat.
Another reason I decided to do 30 days is to use the full tool set  :cheers:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #123 on: February 02, 2019, 03:34:43 PM
Barry, in all honesty for me anyway, paired with a SAK the MT becomes little more than folding pliers and I think these first generation ones would be hard to beat.
Another reason I decided to do 30 days is to use the full tool set  :cheers:
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Hard to beat a good pliers MT and SAK
combo.
My only two complaints about the antiquated ToughTool are(and I am not to upset, because it is a vintage design that was a winner back in its' prime):
1. Cutters need a hard wire notch to hold wire better.
2. Needs a medium flat blade driver. It only has a large and tiny driver. Need something for common flat driver screws.  :ahhh
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #124 on: February 02, 2019, 03:38:02 PM
I mentioned early on I thought I had the paper work that came with it  :woohoo:

The first picture calls it an ST1, I'm curious if that changes throughout production?

The second pic shows the tools, notice the same tool #8 is a scribe and #9 an awl, glbm got me thinking on that  :think:

The third photo is a separate insert that explains the lock

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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #125 on: February 02, 2019, 03:41:41 PM
Barry, in all honesty for me anyway, paired with a SAK the MT becomes little more than folding pliers and I think these first generation ones would be hard to beat.
Another reason I decided to do 30 days is to use the full tool set  :cheers:
:like:
Hard to beat a good pliers MT and SAK
combo.
My only two complaints about the antiquated ToughTool are(and I am not to upset, because it is a vintage design that was a winner back in its' prime):
1. Cutters need a hard wire notch to hold wire better.
2. Needs a medium flat blade driver. It only has a large and tiny driver. Need something for common flat driver screws.  :ahhh

Valid points  :tu:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #126 on: February 02, 2019, 04:12:24 PM
The pliers head has always fascinated me on this tool.  It really stands out to me.  The Toughtool really is quite a design!
Barry


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #127 on: February 02, 2019, 04:31:11 PM
Great pics so far in this challenge guys :o I have been back and forth about getting one of these for years and still have never gotten one ::) Good luck everyone in this challenge and hope to be able to keep up with this one :like:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #128 on: February 02, 2019, 04:50:26 PM
Great to have you following Poncho :cheers:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #129 on: February 02, 2019, 04:59:46 PM
Just a thought for the participants, I know we threw it around, but would you awl mind if I formally requested a new badge be created, I'm thinking TOUGH FOR 30
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I could even take Grant for a beer to bribe him :drink:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #130 on: February 02, 2019, 05:07:39 PM
I think that’s a great idea GJ :tu: :like:
Nothing wrong with asking  :D
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #131 on: February 02, 2019, 06:03:09 PM
I think that’s a great idea GJ :tu: :like:
Nothing wrong with asking  :D

If the others chime in, in favour I'll make a request
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #132 on: February 02, 2019, 06:13:27 PM
Just a thought for the participants, I know we threw it around, but would you awl mind if I formally requested a new badge be created, I'm thinking TOUGH FOR 30
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I could even take Grant for a beer to bribe him :drink:





How many participants do you have ?   We usually don't create a new badge unless there are enough to make it worthwhile.


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #133 on: February 02, 2019, 06:20:07 PM
Just a thought for the participants, I know we threw it around, but would you awl mind if I formally requested a new badge be created, I'm thinking TOUGH FOR 30
 :multi:

I could even take Grant for a beer to bribe him :drink:





How many participants do you have ?   We usually don't create a new badge unless there are enough to make it worthwhile.

Sorry to say there are only 5 of us  :whistle:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #134 on: February 02, 2019, 06:23:56 PM
Sorry to say that's not enough to warrant its own badge.


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #135 on: February 02, 2019, 06:44:48 PM
That’s a shame  :facepalm:
How many participants do you need before
you can create a new badge Steve  :think: :tu:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #136 on: February 02, 2019, 07:18:15 PM
Not 5   :D


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Reply #137 on: February 02, 2019, 07:20:15 PM
 :rofl: good one GJ :rofl:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #138 on: February 03, 2019, 02:25:16 AM
Day 1: Really, the Tough Tool wasn't that big of a changeup, given my two primary MTs these days are it and the Wave.  Kept it with me, but didn't carry it much--sweatpants and HD MTs don't mix.


Tools used, scraper to remove the bark on the stick used to hold the feed box for the sheep shut (which broke), and blade to sharpen the tip (that way, it goes in easier). I've never sharpened the blade in this Tough Tool, but it still is decently sharp.  Did not have a knife on me early this morning as I went out.  Would also have made a new feed box stick with the saw had I found a limb of proper diameter; but I didn't until way later in the day. 



Then, the big screwdriver to adjust the pivot of my Clauss electrician scissors. They were dragging a bit; probably a burr somewhere I can't see.   I always like for my scissors to have a screw holding the halves together as I'm constantly adjusting them; seems few make them that way anymore.





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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #139 on: February 03, 2019, 03:04:42 AM
Thanks for the owners manual Gregg. 
Good uses Cody, really like that first pic.
Berry here are some direct compairison pics with the TT and the PST
Day 2





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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #140 on: February 03, 2019, 03:17:06 AM
Thanks Douglas!  It is a big m/t!  The handles look a good bit more comfortable though :D
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #141 on: February 03, 2019, 03:20:51 AM
For all of it's courious, quirkiness the handles are VERY comfortable.
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #142 on: February 03, 2019, 03:52:01 AM
I mentioned early on I thought I had the paper work that came with it  :woohoo:

The first picture calls it an ST1, I'm curious if that changes throughout production?

The second pic shows the tools, notice the same tool #8 is a scribe and #9 an awl, glbm got me thinking on that  :think:

The third photo is a separate insert that explains the lock
Very very cool. Thanks for posting that! :cheers:
The ST1 was used for all versions and is even used for the Chinese made version.  :)

Great pics so far in this challenge guys :o I have been back and forth about getting one of these for years and still have never gotten one ::) Good luck everyone in this challenge and hope to be able to keep up with this one :like:
Get it! :pok:
They're very affordable right now. :tu:

Sorry to say that's not enough to warrant its own badge.
:(

Day 1: Really, the Tough Tool wasn't that big of a changeup, given my two primary MTs these days are it and the Wave.  Kept it with me, but didn't carry it much--sweatpants and HD MTs don't mix.


Tools used, scraper to remove the bark on the stick used to hold the feed box for the sheep shut (which broke), and blade to sharpen the tip (that way, it goes in easier). I've never sharpened the blade in this Tough Tool, but it still is decently sharp.  Did not have a knife on me early this morning as I went out.  Would also have made a new feed box stick with the saw had I found a limb of proper diameter; but I didn't until way later in the day. 

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Then, the big screwdriver to adjust the pivot of my Clauss electrician scissors. They were dragging a bit; probably a burr somewhere I can't see.   I always like for my scissors to have a screw holding the halves together as I'm constantly adjusting them; seems few make them that way anymore.

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Great uses and pics, cody! :drool:

Big fan of screw pivots on pliers as well. All scissors should have it. Even the old SAKs have screw pivots. Newer ones don't  though. :ahhh

Thanks for the owners manual Gregg. 
Good uses Cody, really like that first pic.
Berry here are some direct compairison pics with the TT and the PST
Day 2
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Awesome photos, Douglas! :drool:

And thank you for doing the comparison. I just got to a point I could get on MT.o busy evening.  :ahhh

Thanks Douglas!  It is a big m/t!  The handles look a good bit more comfortable though :D
As Douglas said, they are very comfortable. The small splay pairs well with the handle shape. :)
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #143 on: February 03, 2019, 04:01:34 AM
Day 2:

The phillips driver is really good on the ToughTool and the handles fold out for a good reach. The notching in the driver tip make it grip like an alligator. Hats off to the 1990s Schrade engineers for the odd looking phillips that bites. :tu:
Uses to finish putting an "L bracket" up for a shelf in my workroom. Shelf is for spare antique sewing machine and telephone parts. :)


The plier jaws are unique, in that they seem to "reach"(for lack of a better word) better than other tools. I guess the handle shape, that aggressively slims closer to the pliers, creates a longer feel with the long handles. Used the TT to fix my boss's trim in his truck cab. Good jaw teeth fantastic grip transfer. But, we already knew, the pliers were the TT's shining glory.


And an extra shot taken in front of the store.

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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #144 on: February 03, 2019, 05:49:24 AM
Great pics!!
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #145 on: February 03, 2019, 01:03:27 PM
Excellent pics and uses everyone  :cheers: :like:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #146 on: February 03, 2019, 01:20:49 PM
Day3
Restroom key
For opening those stupid saftey catches that keep people from stealing your TP (works on the towel dispenser too)
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #147 on: February 03, 2019, 01:57:36 PM
Day 3

The serrated blade makes slicing an English muffin easy  :tu:

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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #148 on: February 03, 2019, 02:01:28 PM
Thanks for the owners manual Gregg. 
Good uses Cody, really like that first pic.
Berry here are some direct compairison pics with the TT and the PST
Day 2
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Wow the pst is small in comparison, oddly I don't find the Tough Tool that big but that's got me thinking  :dunno:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #149 on: February 03, 2019, 02:07:07 PM
Glbm
The fact that ST1 never changed must mean it was a model designation, and maybe they were thinking of different models down the road


 

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