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Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge

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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #180 on: February 04, 2019, 08:59:17 PM
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #181 on: February 04, 2019, 10:09:00 PM
Great pics and uses again everyone  :cheers: :like:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #182 on: February 05, 2019, 12:12:04 AM
Day 4
A trip to the hardware store and those bulk bins look like they would make a good pic...
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #183 on: February 05, 2019, 12:14:01 AM
Love seeing MTs in bins of fasteners. :dd:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #184 on: February 05, 2019, 01:53:35 AM
Since I had both work to do, and was running some errands today, I put my jeans on today, and the excellent leather sheath on my belt (in the horizontal position).  I got quite a bit done with the unseasonably warm weather (65 degrees Fahrenheit). I cut some large decorative grass with the gas hedge trimmer and worked on some power equipment. Garden tractor needs a battery--one in it is the original, which is 20 years old and is constantly in need of charging or jumping. Tires are dry-rotted too; and barely hold air without Fix-A-Flat or Slime being put in regularly. These will be fixed soon, hopefully.   I can do most of it myself, minus putting the tires on; it will be serviced in the Spring at the dealer (as is usually done annually), but am trying to save my folks some cash.

Pliers: Removed stripped out screw on chicken coop door, bent rake tines back straight, and removed oil plug on tiller.
Phillips: installed Phillips screw on chicken coop.
File: Filed away childproof tabs on Listerine cap.

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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #185 on: February 05, 2019, 02:31:57 AM
Yesterday it was the jaws,
Today it's the tip.
Day 4
Removed a broken impact tool end from a magnetic bit holder.

Kids these days just dont get finesse.
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #186 on: February 05, 2019, 05:07:56 AM
Great usage and pics, Douglas! :like:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #187 on: February 05, 2019, 05:23:51 AM
 :like: :tu:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #188 on: February 05, 2019, 12:15:28 PM
Day 4
A trip to the hardware store and those bulk bins look like they would make a good pic...

Looks right at home there Noa  :tu:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #189 on: February 05, 2019, 12:17:04 PM
Since I had both work to do, and was running some errands today, I put my jeans on today, and the excellent leather sheath on my belt (in the horizontal position).  I got quite a bit done with the unseasonably warm weather (65 degrees Fahrenheit). I cut some large decorative grass with the gas hedge trimmer and worked on some power equipment. Garden tractor needs a battery--one in it is the original, which is 20 years old and is constantly in need of charging or jumping. Tires are dry-rotted too; and barely hold air without Fix-A-Flat or Slime being put in regularly. These will be fixed soon, hopefully.   I can do most of it myself, minus putting the tires on; it will be serviced in the Spring at the dealer (as is usually done annually), but am trying to save my folks some cash.

Pliers: Removed stripped out screw on chicken coop door, bent rake tines back straight, and removed oil plug on tiller.
Phillips: installed Phillips screw on chicken coop.
File: Filed away childproof tabs on Listerine cap.

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The TT had a busy day  :tu:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #190 on: February 05, 2019, 12:18:30 PM
Yesterday it was the jaws,
Today it's the tip.
Day 4
Removed a broken impact tool end from a magnetic bit holder.
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Kids these days just dont get finesse.
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Very handy Douglas  :tu:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #191 on: February 05, 2019, 12:41:36 PM
Great work Douglas  :tu: :like:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #192 on: February 05, 2019, 05:50:41 PM
Day 5

I just ripped open a can of peas for a demo, it's always been a disappointment, fortunately I always have a SAK

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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #193 on: February 05, 2019, 05:56:28 PM
Great demonstration Greg  :tu: :like:
shame that the can opener doesn’t cut nicely  ???
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Reply #194 on: February 05, 2019, 06:08:17 PM
Great demonstration Greg  :tu: :like:
shame that the can opener doesn’t cut nicely  ???

It really is, first it suffers from a poor placement that forces you to open the tool, and then they finish it with a wide blunt edge  :facepalm:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #195 on: February 05, 2019, 06:15:47 PM
Great demonstration Greg  :tu: :like:
shame that the can opener doesn’t cut nicely  ???

It really is, first it suffers from a poor placement that forces you to open the tool, and then they finish it with a wide blunt edge  :facepalm:
The can opener doesn’t look very good quality in your pic  :facepalm:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #196 on: February 05, 2019, 06:45:41 PM
The can openers on my TTs are extremely sharp and I've used them as package openers before. I haven't opened any cans, but will give it a try during the challenge after reading Greg's post. The placement does look unfortunate.  :ahhh
Too bad the original TTs are riveted. :(
The Taylor brands ToughTools don't even have an edge  on the can openers. :dunno:

Thanks for the demo, Greg!
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #197 on: February 05, 2019, 06:55:30 PM
Look forward to you testing the can opener GLBM  :popcorn: :tu:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #198 on: February 05, 2019, 07:33:18 PM
The can openers on my TTs are extremely sharp and I've used them as package openers before. I haven't opened any cans, but will give it a try during the challenge after reading Greg's post. The placement does look unfortunate.  :ahhh
Too bad the original TTs are riveted. :(
The Taylor brands ToughTools don't even have an edge  on the can openers. :dunno:

Thanks for the demo, Greg!

Here's a pic of my non edge



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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #199 on: February 05, 2019, 08:37:19 PM
I think Schrade fixed the can opener after the first ToughTool version. Here is a photo of the edge grind on all of my later US TTs.

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Reply #200 on: February 05, 2019, 10:08:20 PM
I think Schrade fixed the can opener after the first ToughTool version. Here is a photo of the edge grind on all of my later US TTs.

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That's all the difference in the world, mine is an unfinished blank in comparison  :rant:


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #201 on: February 05, 2019, 10:17:21 PM
I wonder, as well as the TT is made, why they introduced the model with a can opener that was inferior to the rest of its' tool load-out. :think:
On the plus side, it appears only the very first version and the newest Chinese Taylor tools have awful/dull can openers.
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #202 on: February 05, 2019, 10:28:03 PM
 :think:  :dunno:  :ahhh


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #203 on: February 06, 2019, 12:49:59 AM
Day5
My can opener not only isnt sharp it's practically rounded. Many of my tools suffer from this. The black coat covers all surfaces and edges (even on the combo blade)
I may take some files or the worksharp to clean & square this thing up, but will use it as-is for as long as possable.

Pic1
ST1NB vs LM ST300

As you can see in pic 2 the only tool that has been cleaned up is the main blade.
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #204 on: February 06, 2019, 01:13:59 AM
Thanks for the photos, Noa! :tu:
I must give you credit for joining the challenge with the Taylor version. :hatsoff:

The Taylor Tool, even without the black paint, still has extremely rounded edges compared to the original. :facepalm:

Day 5: Close ups of the original and Taylor versions tools:
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Taylor


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Edit: yes. The original TT's "scribe/awl" is supposed to have a flat tip.m for some strange reason. It isn't broken. Schrade got carried away with the tool count and claimed 21 tools. As Greg posted the manual on page 5. https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,80263.msg1866064.html#msg1866064

It is more like 12 tools in my view.
1. Pliers
2. Wire Cutters
3. File.
4. Clip blade.
5. Sharp curved tip thingy on lock release.
6. Phillips #2.
7. Can opener.
8. Small flat driver.
9. Large flat driver.
10. Wire stripper on Lg. flat driver.
11. Saw.
12. Ruler.
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #205 on: February 06, 2019, 01:27:47 AM
I'm noticing quite a difference throughout production, I see a saw blade where I have a really nice serrated blade, and Noa has scissors, I'll take a picture of my tool load tomorrow


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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #206 on: February 06, 2019, 03:08:07 AM
Today, I used the Phillips removing some screws helping my grandmother prep to paint the hallway. I'll try to see if  I can find a can to open with the opener tommorrow. My opener feels sharp.

Also carried my first-ever knife, given to me when I was 10 by my Granddad, a late 1970s model Schrade USA Old Timer 34OT and a Camillus-made Remington lightweight lockback.



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Reply #207 on: February 06, 2019, 03:30:08 AM
Great comparison photos every one.  I've been curious about the can opener myself.  I'm going to have to give mine a work out soon.
Today I put the phillips driver and "awl" to the test.  The phillips itself worked well but the handles tend to partialy open up while using it.  the "awl" on the other hand would make a better cable stripper than "awl".  It's "blade" shape reminds me of the cable stripper on the chisel stripper blade of the Spirit.




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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #208 on: February 06, 2019, 04:38:53 AM
I'm noticing quite a difference throughout production, I see a saw blade where I have a really nice serrated blade, and Noa has scissors, I'll take a picture of my tool load tomorrow
Indeed. It is interesting finding out some history and information/observations along the way of the challenge.  :cheers:
Looking forward to some pics. Thank you! :cheers:

Today, I used the Phillips removing some screws helping my grandmother prep to paint the hallway. I'll try to see if  I can find a can to open with the opener tommorrow. My opener feels sharp.

Also carried my first-ever knife, given to me when I was 10 by my Granddad, a late 1970s model Schrade USA Old Timer 34OT and a Camillus-made Remington lightweight lockback.

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Great carry, Cody! That 340T is a nice reminder that Schrade used to be synonymous with quality. :like:

Great comparison photos every one.  I've been curious about the can opener myself.  I'm going to have to give mine a work out soon.
Today I put the phillips driver and "awl" to the test.  The phillips itself worked well but the handles tend to partialy open up while using it.  the "awl" on the other hand would make a better cable stripper than "awl".  It's "blade" shape reminds me of the cable stripper on the chisel stripper blade of the Spirit.
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Love the OLD TIMER Cody.
Great uses and photos, Douglas! :like:

Now that you mention it, I'll try stripping some wire with it. After all, it needs a real usage besides being a "scribe awl".  :D :cheers:
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Re: Ya Gotta be...Tough Tool Schrade - February Challenge
Reply #209 on: February 06, 2019, 12:40:02 PM
Excellent pics and uses again everyone  :cheers: :like:
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