Is the Mora Garberg a Puukko?

[Dean51]

It's a a Bushpuukkocraft knife

Isn't it made by Moa? That would make it a Morabushpuukkocraft knife 

[AlephZero]

These guys think it's a Puukko:

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....and a bushcraft knife... 

In modern Finnish vernacular, "puukko" has become a generic word meaning pretty much any non-kitchen knife (cf. Hoover, Xerox, etc.).

Oh, and puukkos (and Moras) are excellent bushcraft knives

[Aloha]

All Puukkos are knives but not all knives are Puukkos so I read 

[AlephZero]

Exactamente! 

[AlephZero]

As a side note though...

Finman 101 Leijonat puukko Made in Finland


This cheapo work puukko doesn't differ much from the cheap Moras, don't you think?

[Nix]

Looks remarkably similar..... I may change my vote now..... 

[Nix]

AZ, give us a recommendation for a quality Finnish Puukko.... 

[Nix]

By which I mean a Puukko, not just any non-kitchen knife..... 

[CallsignBadger]

I don’t know 

[AlephZero]

I've always liked Marttiini Puukkos, there are other brands as well (and not by any means this is an exhaustive list, only what I've seen and heard of)

Roselli
Iisakki Järvenpää
Wood Jewel
Woodsknife
Varusteleka Terävä (really beefy work Puukkos, ask Fuzzy or Z-man about their opinion )

 

[Aloha]

Puukko "Tuohipää" by Pasi Hurttila.  Where the heck is this guy?  I've seen his work and WOW.

 

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Also Iisakki Järvenpää

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This. I have no clue what he's saying but its a gorgeous knife.  Malanika Puukko.
 

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[AlephZero]

The last one looks nice, but it's not Finnish   

[Aloha]

The last one looks nice, but it's not Finnish   

 

[AlephZero]

There probably are different opinions about this, but mine is, if it's not made in Finland or by a Finnish person it's not a Puukko 

[Aloha]

There probably are different opinions about this, but mine is, if it's not made in Finland or by a Finnish person it's not a Puukko 

  

[Steinar]

There probably are different opinions about this, but mine is, if it's not made in Finland or by a Finnish person it's not a Puukko 

One thing I've noted is that people outside the Nordics rarely seem to "grok" the difference between puukko and a Mora and a tollekniv. To me, a puukko is clearly different from a classic tollekniv and I find it strange, but understandable that a lot of people see them as the same thing. The Mora and the tollekniv, on the other hand, I don't have much of a problem regarding as pretty much the same thing. The puukko, on the other hand, has a distinct identity.

[Steinar]

(But, do note there are specific "requirements" of a proper tollekniv, which a Mora doesn't fulfil. They are different, they are just much more similar to each other than a puukko is to either of them.)

[AlephZero]

I guess to most people outside the Nordics a scandi grind is a scandi grind, whether it's Finnish, Swedish or Norwegian... 

[Steinar]

(But, do note there are specific "requirements" of a proper tollekniv, which a Mora doesn't fulfil. They are different, they are just much more similar to each other than a puukko is to either of them.)

(Also, tollekniv is really a generic term, I just use it very specific here, because I'm not writing in Norwegian.  )

[Steinar]

I guess to most people outside the Nordics a scandi grind is a scandi grind, whether it's Finnish, Swedish or Norwegian... 

Yeah, probably. But, we probably look and sound the same to them as people as well. 

That said, I wish I could get Tupla in Norway. I really like those. 

[AlephZero]

(But, do note there are specific "requirements" of a proper tollekniv, which a Mora doesn't fulfil. They are different, they are just much more similar to each other than a puukko is to either of them.)

Well, just as I said before, all three are their own separate entities, none of them are quite the same 

[AlephZero]

I guess to most people outside the Nordics a scandi grind is a scandi grind, whether it's Finnish, Swedish or Norwegian... 

Yeah, probably. But, we probably look and sound the same to them as people as well. 

That said, I wish I could get Tupla in Norway. I really like those. 

PM me your address, I'll send you one, or few

[Steinar]

(But, do note there are specific "requirements" of a proper tollekniv, which a Mora doesn't fulfil. They are different, they are just much more similar to each other than a puukko is to either of them.)

Well, just as I said before, all three are their own separate entities, none of them are quite the same 

Exactly, I was just trying to clarify my own position in the context of an earlier post.

[AlephZero]

(But, do note there are specific "requirements" of a proper tollekniv, which a Mora doesn't fulfil. They are different, they are just much more similar to each other than a puukko is to either of them.)

Well, just as I said before, all three are their own separate entities, none of them are quite the same 

Exactly, I was just trying to clarify my own position in the context of an earlier post.

 

[Nix]

There probably are different opinions about this, but mine is, if it's not made in Finland or by a Finnish person it's not a Puukko 

So...only Louisianan can make Bowie knife?   

Only a Japanese knife maker can make a Tanto?   

What if an American of Finnish and Swedish ancestry made a knife that looked just like a Puukko in New Jersey?   

What if Russian emigrated to Finland and started making Puukkos?   

[Nix]

One thing I've noted is that people outside the Nordics rarely seem to "grok" the difference between puukko and a Mora and a tollekniv. To me, a puukko is clearly different from a classic tollekniv and I find it strange, but understandable that a lot of people see them as the same thing. The Mora and the tollekniv, on the other hand, I don't have much of a problem regarding as pretty much the same thing. The puukko, on the other hand, has a distinct identity.

I've seen a few different examples of knives that are called Puukko. Just like the Bowie knife, it seems that many different-types of knives can be called a Puukko.

But, what exactly defines a Puukko, and how is that different from a Tollekniv? 

How is this Helle different from a Puukko?

[AlephZero]

There probably are different opinions about this, but mine is, if it's not made in Finland or by a Finnish person it's not a Puukko 

So...only Louisianan can make Bowie knife?   

Only a Japanese knife maker can make a Tanto?   

What if an American of Finnish and Swedish ancestry made a knife that looked just like a Puukko in New Jersey?   

What if Russian emigrated to Finland and started making Puukkos?   

Would you buy a Bowie knife made outside US?

Would you buy a Mora not made in Sweden?

Would you buy a Victorinox not made in Switzerland?

An Opinel not made in France?

 

And as I said, one made IN Finland or by a Finnish person... 

 

[Nix]

There probably are different opinions about this, but mine is, if it's not made in Finland or by a Finnish person it's not a Puukko 

So...only Louisianan can make Bowie knife?   

Only a Japanese knife maker can make a Tanto?   

What if an American of Finnish and Swedish ancestry made a knife that looked just like a Puukko in New Jersey?   

What if Russian emigrated to Finland and started making Puukkos?   

Would you buy a Bowie knife made outside US?

Would you buy a Mora not made in Sweden?

Would you buy a Victorinox not made in Switzerland?

 

Bowie not made in the USA?  Sure.  Marttiini makes something called a Bowie.
Mora not made in Sweden? Sure.  Why not?
Vic made outside of Switzerland?  .....possibly.

[Nix]

And note, whether to not I'd buy a Canadian Bowie, doesn't make a difference to whether or not a knife could be called a Bowie.

A SAK made in Germany could still be called a SAK.

A Mora made in Taiwan would still be called a Mora.

[AlephZero]

No, you would not, because for all these, where it was made defines what it is