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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2017, 04:36:05 PM »
Interesting Sam - is there a link to these?  :salute:

What I meant is that I cut those 2 pieces out of the blade of the shears. It's bought locally in a shop here.. My locally would be extremely far away from you....

Tbh, if I am able to cut the triangle and a hole in that metal, with simply a hacksaw and power drill, I doubt the hardness of that steel. But it still work way better than the original carbide gerber offers.. That, is how tragic the carbide insert is.. And, it's just $2 here.. It's like 1.4usd...
« Last Edit: September 27, 2017, 05:22:35 PM by Sam Lim »
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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #31 on: September 28, 2017, 02:47:23 AM »
This is the shears I cut the 2 cutters from.
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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #32 on: September 28, 2017, 10:03:13 AM »
 :salute: Thanks Sam

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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #33 on: September 29, 2017, 04:05:32 AM »
I have emailed Gerber a few times regarding the carbide cutters being inferior yet over-priced. I suggested making the same design cutters, just made out of some sort of hardened steel. I have not heard anything back from them. I wonder if MTO could start a petition or something? It would be such a simple fix if they would just do it.

I am happy to see that these "stand-ins" are available and somewhat compatible, though. :tu:
« Last Edit: September 29, 2017, 04:06:48 AM by rdub934 »

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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #34 on: January 28, 2018, 06:30:05 PM »
Anyone knows the specs for the screws that go with those carbide cutters?

Any third party screws that can replace the original ones?
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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #35 on: July 15, 2018, 09:34:01 AM »
I know this is an old topic but it just helped me with the same issue. I don't know how it will work but I just ordered these as a replacement its not that much cheaper than the gerber ones but it is made out of High Speed steel instead of carbide so it shouldn't shatter as easily. I will update how it works out when I get them. https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=1724
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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #36 on: July 15, 2018, 06:24:53 PM »
I know this is an old topic but it just helped me with the same issue. I don't know how it will work but I just ordered these as a replacement its not that much cheaper than the gerber ones but it is made out of High Speed steel instead of carbide so it shouldn't shatter as easily. I will update how it works out when I get them. https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=1724



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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #37 on: July 15, 2018, 08:49:01 PM »
I know this is an old topic but it just helped me with the same issue. I don't know how it will work but I just ordered these as a replacement its not that much cheaper than the gerber ones but it is made out of High Speed steel instead of carbide so it shouldn't shatter as easily. I will update how it works out when I get them. https://littlemachineshop.com/products/product_view.php?ProductID=1724

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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #38 on: July 24, 2018, 03:08:59 AM »
Alright gentlemen, they have arrived and while I'm not completely happy with them they fit and will probably work for most things I use them for...that said i will probably do some grinding on them to make them work better being HSS it is a better option than the garbage gerber tries to sell you that shatter the first time you use them. All I have tried to cut so far is paper clip which it cut easily and high tensile fence wire which it did not even with regular wire cutters that crap is hard but the failure there is due to the 7 degree angle it just isn't sharp enough. Here are some pics









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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #39 on: July 24, 2018, 03:22:11 AM »
If I can figure out how to hold them without burning myself I will grind the corners down a bit as the ones near the pivot drag a little bit.





Also I would like the angle increased as they mentioned above the shallower angle is stronger but that was in order to keep Carbide from shattering since these are made out of HSS I believe I could make the angle sharper and get away with it. I tried to find some that were sharper out of of the box but there are so few HSS insert available I was honestly lucky to find ones that fit.


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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #40 on: July 24, 2018, 04:19:20 AM »
If I can figure out how to hold them without burning myself I will grind the corners down a bit as the ones near the pivot drag a little bit.

Sounds like a job for LM Crunch (or any old locking pliers should do the job).  Please remember to wear your safety glasses and make sure the bits are gripped very securely when grinding. Also consider the effect of heat on the hardness of the metal.
« Last Edit: July 24, 2018, 04:21:05 AM by gregozedobe »

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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #41 on: July 24, 2018, 04:44:39 AM »
If I can figure out how to hold them without burning myself I will grind the corners down a bit as the ones near the pivot drag a little bit.

Sounds like a job for LM Crunch (or any old locking pliers should do the job).  Please remember to wear your safety glasses and make sure the bits are gripped very securely when grinding. Also consider the effect of heat on the hardness of the metal.

Yeah corners wont be to bad but increasing the cutting angle will be to get the angles right and semetrical...HSS stays hard until nearly red hot should be pretty easy to keep it hard
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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #42 on: July 24, 2018, 08:46:27 PM »
Welcome to the forum swanny, and thank you so much for sharing. :salute:
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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #43 on: July 24, 2018, 08:50:03 PM »
They fit so well, and look great, and although not perfect, still miles better than those Gerber sells.
Why on Earth does Gerber not buy those in bulk, adjust the bevels, and resell them?
Hell, don't adjust the bevels. Just sell them like that, they're still better than the carbide ones.
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Re: alternatives to carbide cutters
« Reply #44 on: January 22, 2019, 08:17:27 PM »
(Sorry to necro this thread, but I didn’t think this information was worth starting a new thread for.)

I’ve found a potential source for HSS inserts.
https://shop.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/power-tools-accessories/high-speed-steel-cutters/20-degree-relief-thickness-094-radius-0156--sku080001067-61400-126849.aspx?cm_mmc=PPC-_-Itwine-_-Google-_-080-001-067&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjK_j5oX63wIVyx-tBh0jvgLtEAQYAyABEgIKgfD_BwE

Note: I do not know which of these products, if any, are compatable with the geometry of a Gerber or Leatherman multitool.

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