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Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp

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Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
on: February 22, 2019, 03:43:06 PM
My new-to-me Rescue tool doesn't have the Swiss Made stamp on the main blade at the left of the thumb hole which I thought was an indicator that it's fake.
It looks like the one they use in the Victorinox video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6hvDvFSENw

Mine:



Thoughts?  :think:
« Last Edit: February 22, 2019, 04:34:49 PM by FolderBeholder »
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #1 on: February 22, 2019, 04:09:20 PM
Update.  This review helped me understand just now that mine is real:
https://www.swissarmyknights.com/articles/2008/86-november-2008/491-fake-rescue-comparison

Apparently the thumb hole is evolving and earlier ones were oval shaped, plus the Swiss Made stamp wasn't on those earlier ones at the left side of the thumb hole.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2019, 04:27:27 PM by FolderBeholder »
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #2 on: February 22, 2019, 04:10:37 PM
Uh, yes. Exactly.

I would have posted that if I noticed this thread sooner :D


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #3 on: February 22, 2019, 04:14:15 PM
Uh, yes. Exactly.

I would have posted that if I noticed this thread sooner :D
No worries.  I just wanted to be sure I have an authentic one.
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #4 on: February 22, 2019, 04:16:08 PM
By the way, the swiss made stamp can be there. But only barely visible when opening the blade about 90 degrees. It would be on the tang as usual but hiddin behind liners and the glassbreaker.

Please do check! :popcorn:


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #5 on: February 22, 2019, 04:22:45 PM
By the way, the swiss made stamp can be there. But only barely visible when opening the blade about 90 degrees. It would be on the tang as usual but hiddin behind liners and the glassbreaker.

Please do check! :popcorn:
It's there!  There's some oil there that is making it hard to read.
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #6 on: February 22, 2019, 04:23:59 PM
:woohoo: 8)
:2tu:


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #7 on: February 22, 2019, 04:25:58 PM
:woohoo: 8)
:2tu:
Thank you!
I guess it's the newer ones that have the stamp to the left of the thumb hole.  It worried me when it wasn't there.
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #8 on: February 22, 2019, 04:31:54 PM
Top box, oval thumb hole.
Bottom box, rounder one with Swiss made stamped to the left of the thumb hole:


Left box newer Rescue tool.
Right box older Rescue tool.
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #9 on: February 22, 2019, 04:40:05 PM
Great refference and comparison shots Lisa! Might help others out there :2tu:


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #10 on: February 22, 2019, 04:51:29 PM
Great refference and comparison shots Lisa! Might help others out there :2tu:
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #11 on: February 22, 2019, 05:03:20 PM
Great information there! And nice score!  :like: :tu:


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #12 on: February 22, 2019, 05:42:38 PM
Great information there! And nice score!  :like: :tu:
Thanks RR!  :cheers:
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #14 on: February 22, 2019, 09:53:22 PM
Great refference and comparison shots Lisa! Might help others out there :2tu:

 :iagree:
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #15 on: February 22, 2019, 10:19:30 PM
Update.  This review helped me understand just now that mine is real:
https://www.swissarmyknights.com/articles/2008/86-november-2008/491-fake-rescue-comparison

Apparently the thumb hole is evolving and earlier ones were oval shaped, plus the Swiss Made stamp wasn't on those earlier ones at the left side of the thumb hole.

Congratulations on the new Rescue Tool FB! :like: :tu: :tu:

I have 4 older ones with the oval thumb hole. Mine all have the Swiss Made stamp to the left of the thumb hole if you are looking at it in the closed position..

Here are 2 pictures of one of them
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #16 on: February 22, 2019, 11:28:50 PM
Update.  This review helped me understand just now that mine is real:
https://www.swissarmyknights.com/articles/2008/86-november-2008/491-fake-rescue-comparison

Apparently the thumb hole is evolving and earlier ones were oval shaped, plus the Swiss Made stamp wasn't on those earlier ones at the left side of the thumb hole.

Congratulations on the new Rescue Tool FB! :like: :tu: :tu:

I have 4 older ones with the oval thumb hole. Mine all have the Swiss Made stamp to the left of the thumb hole if you are looking at it in the closed position..

Here are 2 pictures of one of them
Thank you Vicman.  It appears that they made oval ones with and without the Swiss Made stamp.  :cheers:
Rest in peace ColoSwiss, you will always be remembered.


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #17 on: February 23, 2019, 12:10:57 AM

Nice score Lisa... :drool:

Vicman, the thumbhole on the pic you shared is more rounder... indication of a newer model? :think:


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #18 on: February 23, 2019, 12:15:50 AM
Vicman, the thumbhole on the pic you shared is more rounder... indication of a newer model? :think:


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Mine is an older model. I bought 4 of them shortly after they first came out.

If you type Victorinox Rescue Tool Test Report by James E. Triplett in the search window you will see 3 reviews

Initial Report - December 19, 2008
Field Report - April 24, 2009
Long Term Report - June 9, 2009 

and if you look at the pictures of the Rescue Tool reviewed it has the same oval thumbhole that mine has.

« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 12:59:01 AM by VICMAN »


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #19 on: February 23, 2019, 02:34:52 AM

Mine is an older model. I bought 4 of them shortly after they first came out.

If you type Victorinox Rescue Tool Test Report by James E. Triplett in the search window you will see 3 reviews

Initial Report - December 19, 2008
Field Report - April 24, 2009
Long Term Report - June 9, 2009 

and if you look at the pictures of the Rescue Tool reviewed it has the same oval thumbhole that mine has.
Yours does look like that one in his early reports.
I'm sure perplexed.  :think:

Here are our thumb holes side by side:


I wonder if mine is earlier.  Then they made the hole a little less elongated and put the stamp on.  Thoughts?
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #20 on: February 23, 2019, 08:26:14 AM
This one was made in 2011



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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #21 on: February 23, 2019, 03:21:22 PM

Yours does look like that one in his early reports.
I'm sure perplexed.  :think:

Here are our thumb holes side by side:


I wonder if mine is earlier.  Then they made the hole a little less elongated and put the stamp on.  Thoughts?

I am perplexed too....I don't know how long the elongated hole was made

My 4 were bought in either 2007 or 2008...They may have made the first ones with the elongated hole for a short time before switching to the oval hole because the video has one with the elongated hole and I am pretty sure the video was made in 2007.
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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #22 on: February 23, 2019, 03:42:53 PM
It was mentioned in SAKwiki that the thumbhole was redesigned in 2007...

http://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Trekker

Maybe leftover parts stock was stil used until they ran out?


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #23 on: February 23, 2019, 03:57:55 PM
Probably.

Also notice that the new Soldier model came out in 2008, which shares it's blade design with the Rescue Tool.

So I'd guess they revised the blade in 2008 (end 2007) to be used with the Soldiers.

It makes sense that they'd use remaining stocks for the Rescue Tool, since the Soldier was not meant to receive that design of blade.


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #24 on: February 23, 2019, 03:58:43 PM
Here’s some interesting articles...

https://www.swissarmyknights.com/articles/2009/april-2009/428-oht-variants

https://www.swissarmyknights.com/articles/2007/390-new-and-old-oht-comparison

Based on the readings, I assume that the elyptical tumbhole was made between 2003-2007...

In fact, I’ve only ever seen 2 types of OHO thumb holes... the elyptical one with the usual tang stamp... and the more rounded one with Victorinox Swiss Made to the left of thumbhole...


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #25 on: February 23, 2019, 04:27:04 PM
Good work gentlemen!
I now think mine was one of the earliest versions, then Vicman's are some of the very first with the new design.  :tu:
Rest in peace ColoSwiss, you will always be remembered.


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #26 on: February 23, 2019, 04:29:26 PM
Probably.

Also notice that the new Soldier model came out in 2008, which shares it's blade design with the Rescue Tool.

So I'd guess they revised the blade in 2008 (end 2007) to be used with the Soldiers.

It makes sense that they'd use remaining stocks for the Rescue Tool, since the Soldier was not meant to receive that design of blade.



That all makes sense Mechanickal. :cheers:

Which means my Rescue Tools were bought in 2008. :D
« Last Edit: February 23, 2019, 04:39:13 PM by VICMAN »


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #27 on: February 23, 2019, 04:30:13 PM
Here’s some interesting articles...


Based on the readings, I assume that the elyptical tumbhole was made between 2003-2007...

In fact, I’ve only ever seen 2 types of OHO thumb holes... the elyptical one with the usual tang stamp... and the more rounded one with Victorinox Swiss Made to the left of thumbhole...

Thanks for posting the articles jaya! :cheers:


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #28 on: February 23, 2019, 04:30:36 PM
Good work gentlemen!
I now think mine was one of the earliest versions, then Vicman's are some of the very first with the new design.  :tu:

I agree FB! :cheers:


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Re: Rescue tool without Victorinox Swiss Made Stamp
Reply #29 on: June 19, 2019, 02:10:24 PM
It's there!  There's some oil there that is making it hard to read.
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I'm looking so long for this model but I can't find it , this is my missing link in my yellow rescue series  :hatsoff:
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