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What is a Woodsman with a metal file?

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What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
on: March 17, 2019, 09:09:28 PM
Does such a tool configuration exist without having a mod made?
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #1 on: March 17, 2019, 09:46:47 PM
Not to my knowledge.  To get the full tool set of the Woodsman and and the metal file as well, I think you would need to step up to the Swiss Champ.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #2 on: March 17, 2019, 09:54:15 PM
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #3 on: March 17, 2019, 10:01:14 PM
Quote from: nate j on March 17, 2019, 09:46:47 PM
I think you would need to step up to the Swiss Champ.
It does seem like that is the next step.
Quote from: AlephZero on March 17, 2019, 09:54:15 PM
Modeler?
That does come close, but then you lose the wood saw.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #4 on: March 17, 2019, 11:03:15 PM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 17, 2019, 09:09:28 PM
Does such a tool configuration exist without having a mod made?

I think a regular Champion is the closest, but you will have the fish scaler too.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #5 on: March 17, 2019, 11:13:38 PM
Quote from: VICMAN on March 17, 2019, 11:03:15 PM
I think a regular Champion is the closest, but you will have the fish scaler too.
I do have a couple of Champions, but I think they have the older metal saw...I like that current one.  :think:
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #6 on: March 17, 2019, 11:28:18 PM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 17, 2019, 11:13:38 PM
I do have a couple of Champions, but I think they have the older metal saw...I like that current one.  :think:

I definitely prefer the new metal saw too......they did make a Champion with the new metal saw before they discontinued it....I have one....it has the plus scales.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #7 on: March 17, 2019, 11:30:27 PM
Quote from: VICMAN on March 17, 2019, 11:28:18 PM
I definitely prefer the new metal saw too......they did make a Champion with the new metal saw before they discontinued it....I have one....it has the plus scales.
Oh!  That's a good lead, I have a Champion plus, I'll have to check it for the new file.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #8 on: March 17, 2019, 11:37:17 PM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 17, 2019, 11:30:27 PM
Oh!  That's a good lead, I have a Champion plus, I'll have to check it for the new file.

I have a Champion Plus with the old magnifier, phillips and metal saw and I have a Champion Plus with the new  magnifier, phillips and metal saw.

Hope you have the one with the new metal saw....if not, you should be able to eventually locate one. :cheers:
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #9 on: March 17, 2019, 11:39:35 PM
Quote from: VICMAN on March 17, 2019, 11:37:17 PM
Hope you have the one with the new metal saw....if not, you should be able to eventually locate one. :cheers:
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #10 on: March 17, 2019, 11:43:06 PM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 17, 2019, 11:39:35 PM
"I've been known to locate certain things from time to time."   :hatsoff: Quote from Shawshank Redemption.


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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #11 on: March 18, 2019, 02:51:34 AM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 17, 2019, 09:09:28 PM
Does such a tool configuration exist without having a mod made?

For the 'original' Woodsman, it would be a Mountaineer.  Mountaineer Lite comes closest to the new Woodsman, sans Magnifier.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #12 on: March 18, 2019, 02:57:06 AM
Quote from: kamakiri on March 18, 2019, 02:51:34 AM
For the 'original' Woodsman, it would be a Mountaineer.  Mountaineer Lite comes closest to the new Woodsman, sans Magnifier.
Looked Mountaineer up, but it doesn't have the wood saw.

Here's the mod I'm thinking of having made.

Start with a Champion Plus w/newer metal file.  Have a Compact as a donor tool.

Take the Champion apart:
Remove fish scaler, small blade, opener layer and back hook.

Put in combo tool and hook with nail file material from the Compact.

I think that would be a great tool for me.  Does anyone see a disadvantage to that mod?
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #13 on: March 18, 2019, 03:44:10 AM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 18, 2019, 02:57:06 AM
Looked Mountaineer up, but it doesn't have the wood saw.

Here's the mod I'm thinking of having made.

Start with a Champion Plus w/newer metal file.  Have a Compact as a donor tool.

Take the Champion apart:
Remove fish scaler, small blade, opener layer and back hook.

Put in combo tool and hook with nail file material from the Compact.

I think that would be a great tool for me.  Does anyone see a disadvantage to that mod?

I misunderstood the original question!  Can't think of anything that is like a new Woodsman + Metal Saw.

Sounds like a great mod to me.  :tu: I've considered doing almost the same mods to a '12+ Champ but keeping the small blade. So the final product would be the essentially the same + pliers.

Do it!!  :D
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #14 on: March 18, 2019, 03:59:28 AM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 18, 2019, 02:57:06 AM
Looked Mountaineer up, but it doesn't have the wood saw.

Here's the mod I'm thinking of having made.

Start with a Champion Plus w/newer metal file.  Have a Compact as a donor tool.

Take the Champion apart:
Remove fish scaler, small blade, opener layer and back hook.

Put in combo tool and hook with nail file material from the Compact.

I think that would be a great tool for me.  Does anyone see a disadvantage to that mod?

If you're happy with the tool load out, then the only thoughts I have are:
  • The hook w/ nail file seems a little redundant on a knife that has the metal file, which also works fine on nails, but you'd need the donor Compact for the combo tool anyway, so why not?
  • With the Champion Plus apparently discontinued, it might be easier/faster/cheaper to start with a Swiss Champ.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #15 on: March 18, 2019, 04:03:31 AM
Quote from: nate j on March 18, 2019, 03:59:28 AM
If you're happy with the tool load out, then the only thoughts I have are:
  • The hook w/ nail file seems a little redundant on a knife that has the metal file, which also works fine on nails, but you'd need the donor Compact for the combo tool anyway, so why not?
  • With the Champion Plus apparently discontinued, it might be easier/faster/cheaper to start with a Swiss Champ.
Thank you for your thoughts.   :cheers:
I see your point about the nail file.  The one on the hook is less aggressive, so that is why I thought it might be nice to have for my delicate, dainty fingernails.  :rofl:  I laugh because my nails are actually robust, milk drinker and all.
I have two Champion Plus already that I bought used, but are in great shape, thought I might use one of them....but that discontinued comment does give me pause.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #16 on: March 18, 2019, 04:31:26 AM
Depends of the version of Champion Plus... Plastic magnifier on most of them. I'd hack one of those in a heartbeat. I got another one recently sub $30 shipped for that purpose.  I'd have a harder time pulling an older gray magnifier apart if it's an original plus model.

I'd consider putting the scissor/nail file on the end layer if you plan on using the file. I prefer it there over in the middle more.

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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #17 on: March 18, 2019, 08:15:22 AM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 18, 2019, 02:57:06 AM
Does anyone see a disadvantage to that mod?

Yes.  It's got the combo tool in it. ;)
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #18 on: March 18, 2019, 09:44:58 AM
Quote from: hiraethus on March 18, 2019, 08:15:22 AM
Yes.  It's got the combo tool in it. ;)
:iagree:  :D
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #19 on: March 18, 2019, 12:38:44 PM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 18, 2019, 04:03:31 AM
Thank you for your thoughts.   :cheers:
I see your point about the nail file.  The one on the hook is less aggressive, so that is why I thought it might be nice to have for my delicate, dainty fingernails.  :rofl:  I laugh because my nails are actually robust, milk drinker and all.
I have two Champion Plus already that I bought used, but are in great shape, thought I might use one of them....but that discontinued comment does give me pause.

I like the idea of the hook with the nail file on back, but I think that if you do a mod you should use a SwissChamp and keep the 2 discontinued Champion Plus's as they are.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #20 on: March 18, 2019, 12:56:45 PM
The closest I can see on sakwiki is the Expedition Lite but it has the torch/flashlight instead of a magnifying glass.

https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Expedition+Lite
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #21 on: March 18, 2019, 01:08:57 PM
Quote from: magentus on March 18, 2019, 09:44:58 AM
:iagree:  :D

Yep and you would loose the awl too - Which is a great tool!!
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #22 on: March 18, 2019, 01:18:51 PM
Wait, I don't want to lose the awl.  :ahhh
So the awl is a part of the opener layer, is this correct?
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #23 on: March 18, 2019, 01:25:12 PM
I forgot the link in my last post and according to the sakwiki page it does have the awl.

https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Expedition+Lite

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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #24 on: March 18, 2019, 01:48:40 PM
Quote from: Cauldronborn on March 18, 2019, 01:25:12 PM
I forgot the link in my last post and according to the sakwiki page it does have the awl.

https://sakwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page=Expedition+Lite
Thank you for providing the link.   :cheers: It reminded me that I did buy the Expedition Kit and how I felt I had found the perfect SAK for me.
I am going to hold off on any mod right now because the Expedition is *almost* perfect.  Probably the only thing I'd want changed is switch the flashlight for the Magnifier.
But in all likelihood I'd use the flashlight more than the magnifier.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #26 on: March 18, 2019, 04:23:14 PM
Quote from: Cauldronborn on March 18, 2019, 04:15:51 PM
Wait, what!!???!!

I saved someone from buying a sak!!??!!!   :ahhh :ahhh

How is that even possible in this place??  :think: :think:
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I use the camera on my phone to photograph something, then pinch out to magnify....works great until the battery dies.
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Re: What is a Woodsman with a metal file?
Reply #27 on: March 18, 2019, 05:21:26 PM
Quote from: FolderBeholder on March 18, 2019, 01:18:51 PM
Wait, I don't want to lose the awl.  :ahhh
So the awl is a part of the opener layer, is this correct?
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