Evogrip S54 10-layer Appreciation?

[Max Stone]

Some years ago, before I began collecting SAKs or finding MTO, I bought a Victorinox Evolution Grip S54, thinking it was the bees knees to have so many tools crammed into such a little ‘tool chest’.

But it was just too big to carry, and has been sitting in a draw unused, unloved and forgotten for years. If anything, it put me off SAKs as I did not appreciate at the time that less is more, and for EDC a 3- or even 2-layer SAK is all you need.

Now with a little more understanding, I have more respect for what this knife represents. Not a knife you would use, but a showcase of the tools available in more pocketable-sized 85mm models.

So a little love is returning and I may even spoil this little guy with a sheath so he can get some sunlight away from the draw some day. I think he deserves it. 

[Barry Rowland]

Don't own one but would love to!  Nice pics!

[RF52]

It looks great

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[zrxoa1]

I have one. I won it here at MT.O not long after joining up. I carried once, then right back into the box. Just way too much for me to carry or use.

Too me, it’s like a trophy. I’ll never use it but I’ll probably never sell it. I did try to sell once, but didn’t get any bites. Doubt I ever try again...




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[kottskrapa]

Nice but big! And I have a question.. What are the notch in the fishscaler do?



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[FolderBeholder]

I have a similar one, but it doesn't have the black grippy material:

[RF52]

Nice but big! And I have a question.. What are the notch in the fishscaler do?

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The SAKWiki says it's a line guide, but I have no idea what to use it for.

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[Max Stone]

I would use it to push (or pull) a hook out of a fish’s mouth.

[RF52]

I thought that the end of the scaler was used for disgorging hooks.

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[Max Stone]

Actually you’re right RF. I generally use needle-nose pliers and not a SAK for the task. 

I guess it could help with tension when spooling new line onto your reel? 

[RF52]

I'm not much of a fisherman so I wouldn't know how to spool a line on a reel

I have done some fishing with a bamboo pole and a set lenght of line though.

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[Thunderpants]

The notch is for quick-n-easy dentist work.
Every time your kid shows you a wobbly "baby" tooth you whack that on there, give it a yank and voila! Job done.

[RF52]

The notch is for quick-n-easy dentist work.
Every time your kid shows you a wobbly "baby" tooth you whack that on there, give it a yank and voila! Job done.

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[gerleatherberman]

That is an awesome Wenger, Max!

An S54 is on my "to get lest".

[Max Stone]

Thanks GLBM. Are you sure you’ve got the space? 

[Butch]

Thanks GLBM. Are you sure you’ve got the space? 

He prolly has one, he just can't find it under all those other multitools he has ..........

[RF52]

He prolly has one, he just can't find it under all those other multitools he has ..........

Good one

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[kottskrapa]

The SAKWiki says it's a line guide, but I have no idea what to use it for.

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Thanks! I will have to look in to that, I have been fishing on and off for my whole life including putting on new line on a reel but have never used anything like that

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[RF52]

Thanks! I will have to look in to that, I have been fishing on and off for my whole life including putting on new line on a reel but have never used anything like that

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Let us/me know how it works!

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[gerleatherberman]

Thanks GLBM. Are you sure you’ve got the space? 

Though, in truth, you bring up a valid point. The little SAK display case is at maximum+ capacity at the moment. Procurement of a larger exhibition container would be necessary to facilitate the current collection of SAKs with the addition of an S54.

He prolly has one, he just can't find it under all those other multitools he has ..........

Do I remember you said you were buying me an S54, Butch?  

[rxd]

I actually like big SAKs but that is too much. I wish they made that knife without the ruler - compass thing. That is just a huge waste of space in my opinion...


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[Max Stone]

I agree. 

The layer takes up 7.1mm (0.28in) which is 20% of the 35mm (1.4in).

And I never have much success with the tiddly compass. The magnetic ‘dip’ where I live means the South end of the needle tips down and sticks, so it’s a real fiddle to get the needle to swing freely.

One MT.O member had the idea to use the empty space behind (inside) the ruler for storing a couple of matches, which is a nice idea. But I do look at how much more compact it would be without the ruler compass. Maybe a good mod opportunity? 

[Brock O Lee]

...I did not appreciate at the time that less is more, and for EDC a 3- or even 2-layer SAK is all you need...

I completely agree, for EDC (i.e. on person carry) less is definitely more for me. I can do 2 layer cellidor, or 3 layer alox, but anything more I find to be a chore to carry comfortably.

The fat SAKs are good for an EDC bag though... It works for me to have a lean SAK in the pocket, and a “tool chest” type in a bag, which is close-by when needed.

Current favorites are Cadet, Pioneer, Farmer, Spartan in pocket. I often bag carry a 3-4 layer 111mm or a LM Rebar, and I have a Workchamp that comes along on holidays. The S54 looks like it’s made for this. 

[kottskrapa]

Found this.. Doesn't give me much more than before and I don't see how this is going to be more effective than using the fingers or putting the line through the first line loop in the rod before starting to fill the reel.. Fun little thing though but I guess it can be used for other things as well

"Line guide update

 

The introduction of a line guide makes it possible to use this for hook disgorging as well. A line guide is made as a tool for distributing the line on a device. This is to prevent a line to clump. On fishing rod reels you use the thumb to distribute the line on the reel if it does not have a line guide mechanism. It would be difficult to use the line guide on SAKs and reel at the same time. This line guide i would expect can be used for more stationary devices to avoid clumping of the line and burning of the fingers."

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[Max Stone]

I completely agree, for EDC (i.e. on person carry) less is definitely more for me. I can do 2 layer cellidor, or 3 layer alox, but anything more I find to be a chore to carry comfortably.

The fat SAKs are good for an EDC bag though... It works for me to have a lean SAK in the pocket, and a “tool chest” type in a bag, which is close-by when needed.

Current favorites are Cadet, Pioneer, Farmer, Spartan in pocket. I often bag carry a 3-4 layer 111mm or a LM Rebar, and I have a Workchamp that comes along on holidays. The S54 looks like it’s made for this. 

This is a good carry plan BoL. I’m alternating between Pioneer and Cadet for the pocket, adding a modded Rebar or Wave (or PST, or SOG, or OHT) on the belt on weekends. I will certainly look at some of the 3+ layer SAKs to compliment what’s in my pocket for an EDC bag carry.   

[264]

Some years ago, before I began collecting SAKs or finding MTO, I bought a Victorinox Evolution Grip S54, thinking it was the bees knees to have so many tools crammed into such a little ‘tool chest’.

But it was just too big to carry, and has been sitting in a draw unused, unloved and forgotten for years. If anything, it put me off SAKs as I did not appreciate at the time that less is more, and for EDC a 3- or even 2-layer SAK is all you need.

Now with a little more understanding, I have more respect for what this knife represents. Not a knife you would use, but a showcase of the tools available in more pocketable-sized 85mm models.

So a little love is returning and I may even spoil this little guy with a sheath so he can get some sunlight away from the draw some day. I think he deserves it. 

The Evogrip S54 10-layer is a impressive gadget knife worthy of daylight imho also.

[ThePeacent]

given my dexterity with huge, fat SAKs, I'd use the notch in the fish scaler to hang the S54 in the air from a fishing line after my trip, because it'd have fallen to the water and gotten all wet 

[Max Stone]

Ok guys, picked up a 4.0521.3 leather sheath today (with a few other goodies) 

The S54 is a good fit. Not too tight. Locking lever does not cause a problem. Some room in the bottom but the shaped sides match the scales and stop it from dropping down too far. Enough of the scales exposed to extract the S54.

So now on the belt and getting some sunlight for the first time in probably 3 years. 

[Top-Gear-24]

I agree. 

The layer takes up 7.1mm (0.28in) which is 20% of the 35mm (1.4in).

And I never have much success with the tiddly compass. The magnetic ‘dip’ where I live means the South end of the needle tips down and sticks, so it’s a real fiddle to get the needle to swing freely.

One MT.O member had the idea to use the empty space behind (inside) the ruler for storing a couple of matches, which is a nice idea. But I do look at how much more compact it would be without the ruler compass. Maybe a good mod opportunity? 

Which crazy MTO member came up with that idea ... 

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I've been thinking about using the plastic compass holder as storage for some small things, since the plastic is hollow. 

I'm thinking of using a piece of cork that I can jam in the plastic compass holder, in which I can put a needle (since the S54 has no needle storage near the corckscrew, like the Vics do), and maybe some fishing line, hooks and some small lead balls as fishing sinker (or whatever you call this in English).  Or some matches and a piece of match striker, or even a small firesteel, if I can find one that fits ... I'm going to try some of these options and see what works best.

That way all the "lost space" would be put to good use  .

About the compass, like I said in my S54 topic, it works quite well over here, and it can even be used to determine your location or heading using a topomap, thanks to the transparant ruler.  Interesting that you have a magnetic ‘dip’ there, I guess one should need something like the "global compass" from Recta/Suunto which allows the "needle" to tilt while still being accurate, to use over there, right?

Like these ones:

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Okay I'll say it ... my name is Eric, I have a compass problem ... 

[Max Stone]

Also have a couple 

Taking this picture I discovered the S54 was influencing the Perspex compass from even 10cm...which may explain why I battle to get a stable reading with the S54’s compass