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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #570 on: June 23, 2019, 10:31:26 AM
I think someone else had a P with little or no loctite on the screws? Sam I think? :think:

The P4 I use didn't have much, but I did need to heat it up to turn more freely, as there was a little on each screw thread.
I wonder if the assembly person just didn't bother using much, if any, loctite on Friday afternoon before close?  :rofl:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #571 on: June 23, 2019, 03:08:04 PM
Quote from: gerleatherberman on June 23, 2019, 10:31:26 AM
I think someone else had a P with little or no loctite on the screws? Sam I think? :think:

The P4 I use didn't have much, but I did need to heat it up to turn more freely, as there was a little on each screw thread.
I wonder if the assembly person just didn't bother using much, if any, loctite on Friday afternoon before close?  :rofl:

Yeah I think that was me. I did feedback before sometime earlier. But being someone that cannot live with stock, I personally think it's somewhat better this way. That screw is really tiny. If it gets stuck with locktite somehow, it can break inside. Those that had experience with small pivot screws will know. Be it a Vic or juice. Most should experience some sort of breakage..
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #572 on: June 23, 2019, 04:03:34 PM
I used to do a lot of modding not so much lately. I do enjoy seeing all the creative mods you guys come with. Look forward to seeing what come up with.
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #573 on: June 28, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
After another week of use, today i observed an issue.
I have used the pliers and i have applied a small amount of force on  the handles to hold something fermly( i had to unscrew an M10 bolt  and i hold the nut with the pliers).
Interestingly, the pliers have become stiff, immediately i felt them to be too stiff to my likening and to what i have been used.
I applied some oil and opened and closed the pliers several times. This is affecting the easyness of closing the tool.
When it became slightly easy for the pliers to be opened, after several hundreds closing and opening, i squeezed the handles again, nothing in the jaws of the pliers, and again it became stiff.
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #574 on: June 28, 2019, 02:25:20 PM
That happens sometimes to other LM models too.
It can go away after some time of use, however, I've read reports where it didn't seem to.

It can be that the pivot is slightly oval in shape (inside) which could introduce such behavior :dunno:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #575 on: June 28, 2019, 02:48:12 PM
Quote from: MTMatt on June 28, 2019, 02:25:20 PM
That happens sometimes to other LM models too.
It can go away after some time of use, however, I've read reports where it didn't seem to.

It can be that the pivot is slightly oval in shape (inside) which could introduce such behavior :dunno:

Sounds like warranty worthy, but maybe not possible after the mods? Yes, that had been an issue across the board with pliers.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #576 on: June 28, 2019, 02:54:59 PM
Quote from: Raoul Octav on June 28, 2019, 01:19:41 PM
After another week of use, today i observed an issue.
I have used the pliers and i have applied a small amount of force on  the handles to hold something fermly( i had to unscrew an M10 bolt  and i hold the nut with the pliers).
Interestingly, the pliers have become stiff, immediately i felt them to be too stiff to my likening and to what i have been used.
I applied some oil and opened and closed the pliers several times. This is affecting the easyness of closing the tool.
When it became slightly easy for the pliers to be opened, after several hundreds closing and opening, i squeezed the handles again, nothing in the jaws of the pliers, and again it became stiff.
WTF, something is not OK in the area of the Pliers PIVOT
This helped me immensely.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #577 on: July 03, 2019, 03:53:43 PM
I just tried the awl on my leather belt. I was a bit skeptical but it surprisingly punched right through it.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #578 on: July 10, 2019, 12:38:01 AM
Quote from: genevabuck on July 03, 2019, 03:53:43 PM
I just tried the awl on my leather belt. I was a bit skeptical but it surprisingly punched right through it.

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I also have had good luck drilling mid-size holes in wood to start screws.   :)

Just can't start really small holes like can be done with a pointed awl.
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #579 on: July 10, 2019, 09:41:05 AM
So, got my P2 and P4, sold my Charge TTi and Signal... Loving them mostly, apart from the difficulty opening blades and the way too fat pocket clip.

But very curious to see different parts being used for the scissors. The P4 scissors don't provide any resistance when opening for the first thirty degrees or so. The P2 ones snap back. You can see they changed the profile, and you can see this in action as you deploy the tool. The P4 scissors won't move the lock for some time.

The P4 is marked 04/19 and came with the new pocket clip. The P2 doesn't have a date stamp, both bought Amazon/Netrush in USA June 6.
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #580 on: July 10, 2019, 02:25:27 PM
Strange. On my P4 (no date stamp) the scissors are those in your P2 pic side. Seems they have modified the scissors on newer runs. Hang on to that P2, it might become rare :D
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #581 on: July 10, 2019, 09:21:33 PM
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Strange. On my P4 (no date stamp) the scissors are those in your P2 pic side. Seems they have modified the scissors on newer runs. Hang on to that P2, it might become rare :D

Same on my P4 (which does not have a date stamp, however, on the place where they put the date stamp on the "new" Free tools, mine says 1 2 1, only on the side of the phillips  :think:).
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #582 on: July 14, 2019, 09:26:02 PM
Decided to take care of the pant's pocket destroying screws on my P4.
The P4 clip LM sent came with an extra set of screws, so I used those just in case I sent a screw flying across a messy workshop.
I filed the slot out a little in the end of a clockmaker's pin vise to hold the machine screws while grinding and polishing. There really isn't another good way to hold these screws(they are so short) without damaging the threads, so be careful using anything to hold the screws. The soft steel of the pin vise and dispersion of surface contact(from filing the opening to seat the screw a bit better) did not damage the threads any.

Before.



Pin vise with hole notched out.



Screw secured in pin vise.



After spinning it against a fine grinding wheel.



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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #583 on: July 14, 2019, 11:22:07 PM
GLBM, that looks good.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #584 on: July 15, 2019, 02:45:27 AM
Quote from: JonesE on July 14, 2019, 11:22:07 PM
GLBM, that looks good.

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Now just gotta fix the work jeans pocket that the screws frayed. :facepalm:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #585 on: July 15, 2019, 05:17:56 AM
Good job glbm, let us know if this works better for your pants   :tu:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #586 on: July 15, 2019, 05:43:41 AM
Quote from: SirVicaLot on July 15, 2019, 05:17:56 AM
Good job glbm, let us know if this works better for your pants   :tu:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #587 on: July 15, 2019, 07:52:26 PM
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Reply #588 on: July 16, 2019, 01:27:42 AM
So I gave up trying to save the pockets of my pants. I have carried ZT, Benchmade, Spyderco, etc for years and have had issues with the deep carry clips wearing the pockets of my pants for just as long. One of the best is the deep carry wire clip that Spyderco uses. The rest have the protruding screw heads that cause the wear.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #589 on: August 27, 2019, 08:53:30 PM


This guy makes 4mm bit drivers for the free


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Reply #590 on: August 27, 2019, 09:01:20 PM
One question as I’m about to be a P4 Owner too,
Whats the best way to carry this tool?? , In the Nylon Sheath that comes whit the Tool or in the „Rulerpocket“ ??
I can’t carry it like my Signal: horizontal clipped in the Beltloop whyle the Carabiner is also clipped in the near beltloop because it’s dosnt have a carabiner..

Is the Blade automatically locked??

Of is the Clip thought enough to clip the Tool on the Belt??


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #591 on: August 27, 2019, 09:36:23 PM
Quote from: matzesu on August 27, 2019, 09:01:20 PM
One question as I’m about to be a P4 Owner too,
Whats the best way to carry this tool?? , In the Nylon Sheath that comes whit the Tool or in the „Rulerpocket“ ??
I can’t carry it like my Signal: horizontal clipped in the Beltloop whyle the Carabiner is also clipped in the near beltloop because it’s dosnt have a carabiner..

Is the Blade automatically locked??

Of is the Clip thought enough to clip the Tool on the Belt??

How you carry it is up to you and how you use your tool. But I do invite you to check out my custom fit holster design, it comes in a few different belt clips styles.


The blade is automatically locked when open. When close the blade is held in using tension from a spring acting on a cam. Your thumb overcomes the spring tension when deploying the blade.

The included clip is quite large, and would work on a belt, but the tool could easily twist sideways as the clip isn't very wide.


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #592 on: August 27, 2019, 10:47:06 PM
Quote from: bigraab1972 on August 27, 2019, 08:53:30 PM


This guy makes 4mm bit drivers for the free

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After adding the processing charges+shipping+tax, it comes up to almost $40 ::)..But I guess if you really need a 4mm driver and willing to spend the extra money and provide your own bits, it will be a good deal :popcorn:
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Reply #593 on: August 28, 2019, 06:40:41 PM
Leatherman Germany was pretty fast, yesterday ordered, today surprisingly on my Desk..
I think I put in on my Belt,  ..
Makes a pretty good impression so far, I have to practice a bit whit this one hand mechanism,
The Pliers are pretty easy to open whit one hand, but I can’t close it whit one hand..  pix will follow..


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #594 on: August 29, 2019, 10:39:55 AM
Anybody have any ideas? So I’ve had mine for a few months. It was like this when I got it. If you squeeze the pliers too tight the pliers head pivot binds. The more force you apply the tighter it gets, it’s very easy for it to bind so tight that the handle locks will disengage before the pivot turns. I thought at first it just needed some break in time. I would bind the pivot as tight as needed to still be able to work the pliers without releasing the handle locks. I used acetone spray to clean the pivot out then proceeded to work the pliers open/close about 500 times a day, depending on free time at work. After each session I would rinse the pivot and lube with a Teflon based oil.  I never witnessed any metal shavings around the pivot area so I don’t know if I was actually removing any material. It’s become such a pain in the a$$ to have to splay the handles against each other every time I use the pliers. The smallest force will cause them to bind Such as cutting 12awg automotive wire. Any tips? Or should I send it back? I’ve heard of guys having the same problem with their replacement p4. Thanks


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #595 on: August 29, 2019, 10:53:46 AM
I had the same, and also Gearbltm.
What i found and G confirmed, if you use the blunt wire cutter from the back of the pivot, to excert some pressure there, you'll be able to loosen the pliers to what it used to br. I have no explanation on why this happens, makes no logic on a round pivot
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Reply #596 on: August 29, 2019, 11:29:30 AM
Quote from: Raoul Octav on August 29, 2019, 10:53:46 AM
I had the same, and also Gearbltm.
What i found and G confirmed, if you use the blunt wire cutter from the back of the pivot, to excert some pressure there, you'll be able to loosen the pliers to what it used to br. I have no explanation on why this happens, makes no logic on a round pivot

Right now to loosen the pivot I push the handles in opposite directions perpendicular to the pivot. Are you referring to the hard wire cutter side or the crimper side of the pivot area? And how do you exert pressure there? Thanks for the reply!


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #597 on: August 29, 2019, 11:34:32 AM
Pliers deployed, use something wood or soft metal, and on the back of the pliers(where the handles start) you have a crimper hard wires cutting something. Put that wood or metal there and squezze the handles
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Reply #598 on: August 29, 2019, 11:42:37 AM
Noted. Thank you!


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #599 on: September 25, 2019, 03:24:04 PM
Well I treated myself and now have a P4 on the way :)


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