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Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #90 on: April 24, 2019, 02:12:39 AM
Quote from: Monrogue on April 24, 2019, 01:55:54 AM
I look forward to your impressions as well :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #91 on: April 24, 2019, 02:47:38 AM
Quote from: Monrogue on April 24, 2019, 01:34:38 AM
Are those the black bits around the handle pivots? 
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Now this shot raises more questions than it answers, but I'm seeing some clever thinking here. I like the looks of the load transfer lugs, acting directly onto the main handle panels, rather than the bridge piece as on the Spirit (which failed on me, on a MP700). That seems to indicate that the elastomer elements lets the handles snick nicely into place, while not being subjected to the primary gripping or cutting forces.

However, it does also mean that those protrusions on the plier trunnion have tensile/shear forces instead of just compression... clever, but... has the design accommodated for tensile/shear forces on a (presumed) casting ... and what's the actual mechanism of engagement on the elastomer... ?

Insufficient data to speculate as yet. :surrender:

While all the fluff and stuff at the other end of the handles hasn't impressed me much at all, I'm finding the activity around this pivot area more intriguing.


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #92 on: April 24, 2019, 02:50:18 AM
Quote from: Monrogue on April 24, 2019, 01:56:44 AM
Well they do appear to be plastic, but they are difficult to see, and to capture in a pic.

Thanks!  :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #93 on: April 24, 2019, 03:08:02 AM
found decent review/comparison to surge

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #94 on: April 24, 2019, 03:14:29 AM
If you want a long video that shows P2 and P4 from so many angles, so that you feel like you already own one and know it better than your wife, I recommend this Russian video:



I still can't decide P2 vs P4, and I feel like this video is foreign interference in my purchasing decision.  :whistle:

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #95 on: April 24, 2019, 03:30:21 AM
Here are some pics of some of the tools.



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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #96 on: April 24, 2019, 03:42:02 AM
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #97 on: April 24, 2019, 04:03:17 AM
A little more feedback as I’ve been fiddling with it:
Every tool locks up rock solid, with no slack whatsoever.  The pliers operate smoothly, with no break in required, which is not typical of most LMs I’ve had.  Fit and finish do indeed seem top notch so far imho :tu:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #98 on: April 24, 2019, 04:40:45 AM
Wow. Your photos do a MUCH better job than LM's to showcase the fit & finish, as well as how nicely they are machined. :o
Thanks for sharing them. :cheers:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #99 on: April 24, 2019, 05:15:38 AM
Quote from: gerleatherberman on April 24, 2019, 04:40:45 AM
Wow. Your photos do a MUCH better job than LM's to showcase the fit & finish, as well as how nicely they are machined. :o
Thanks for sharing them. :cheers:

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #100 on: April 24, 2019, 05:48:58 AM
Thanks for the pics, so far I like what I am seeing.
Also, the combo blade of the P2 means that I am interested in the P4. :facepalm:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #101 on: April 24, 2019, 06:38:36 AM
Quote from: Blackbeard on April 24, 2019, 03:08:02 AM
found decent review/comparison to surge



That's how you market a tool. Great video. :like:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #102 on: April 24, 2019, 10:26:17 AM
YW, Reamerpunch

He did a good job with the close ups, Looking forward to reading more MTO members thoughts, it seems like a good tool, but Hopefully the price will come down over time.
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #103 on: April 24, 2019, 12:11:15 PM
Glad you got yours, Mons :like: Those pics show the tools better than I have seen and the Phillips definitely looks more 3D than 2D :like: The scissors look very well made as well, I am liking what I am seeing with the Free :drool:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #104 on: April 24, 2019, 12:59:41 PM
 :iagree: The Free does look good  :dd: :like: :like:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #105 on: April 24, 2019, 01:39:20 PM
Quote from: Poncho65 on April 24, 2019, 12:11:15 PM
Glad you got yours, Mons :like: Those pics show the tools better than I have seen and the Phillips definitely looks more 3D than 2D :like: The scissors look very well made as well, I am liking what I am seeing with the Free :drool:

My thoughts on the Phillips as well. I have tested it. It bites into the screw.

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #106 on: April 24, 2019, 02:08:52 PM
Quote from: genevabuck on April 24, 2019, 01:39:20 PM
My thoughts on the Phillips as well. I have tested it. It bites into the screw.

It work well. At least as good as the bits.



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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #107 on: April 24, 2019, 02:18:58 PM
Quote from: Poncho65 on April 24, 2019, 12:11:15 PM
Glad you got yours, Mons :like: Those pics show the tools better than I have seen and the Phillips definitely looks more 3D than 2D :like: The scissors look very well made as well, I am liking what I am seeing with the Free :drool:

Thanks Poncho :D
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #108 on: April 24, 2019, 02:49:44 PM
Quote from: gadgetman7 on April 24, 2019, 02:08:52 PM
It work well. At least as good as the bits.



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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #109 on: April 24, 2019, 03:30:44 PM
How does the flathead/reamerpunch perform as a flathead/reamerpunch?
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #110 on: April 24, 2019, 03:44:29 PM
Nice videos.  Well looks like crow for breakfast for me regarding the phillips.   That things a beast.  Watching him open and close the tools and access the pliers was very satisfying.  I have always preferred my Swisstool over my Spirit and my Surge has been a favorite since getting one.  Dare I say they had a child?  Maybe they went out for drinks and ..............  :facepalm:  :rofl:

I am really liking how the tools are all available without opening the tool.  In looking at more an more videos I am very much liking the deployment method.  I showed how one would deploy the tools and my partner said she really liked the clumping so remembering where each tool was located was not necessary.  I even forget on my Swisstools. 

I think I am just such a sucker for the bit holder and blade exchanger that I have a hard time seeing past them.   I need to go back a re read what my gripes were about this tool. 
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #111 on: April 24, 2019, 03:54:18 PM
I am hoping that any other new models LM will make
Will have a bit holder and the blade exchanger  :think:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #112 on: April 24, 2019, 04:50:40 PM
Quote from: aussieman on April 24, 2019, 03:14:29 AM
If you want a long video that shows P2 and P4 from so many angles, so that you feel like you already own one and know it better than your wife, I recommend this Russian video:



I still can't decide P2 vs P4, and I feel like this video is foreign interference in my purchasing decision.  :whistle:

Thanks for that, I think I've seen all I need to now  :salute:


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #113 on: April 24, 2019, 04:53:50 PM
Quote from: AimlessWanderer on April 24, 2019, 04:50:40 PM
Thanks for that, I think I've seen all I need to now  :salute:

And he’s sold :woohoo:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #114 on: April 24, 2019, 05:21:38 PM
Quote from: Blackbeard on April 24, 2019, 03:08:02 AM
found decent review/comparison to surge



Very informative, thanks  :cheers:


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #115 on: April 24, 2019, 05:22:51 PM
Quote from: Monrogue on April 24, 2019, 04:53:50 PM
And he’s sold :woohoo:
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Absolutely  :tu:

Completely sold... on everything I already own  :D


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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #116 on: April 24, 2019, 05:43:53 PM
Quote from: AimlessWanderer on April 24, 2019, 05:22:51 PM
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Absolutely  :tu:

Completely sold... on everything I already own  :D

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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #117 on: April 24, 2019, 09:11:03 PM
Quote from: Wspeed on April 24, 2019, 03:54:18 PM
I am hoping that any other new models LM will make
Will have a bit holder and the blade exchanger  :think:
We've already got the best LMs ever made, and are using them an entire 30-day run. And they don't come in grey sheaths. :multi:

The Free, to me anyway, is an urban type carry with mad fiddle-factor. A P2 should be waiting for me when I get home from work. :woohoo:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #118 on: April 24, 2019, 09:27:02 PM
Nice one GLBM can’t wait to see what you think of the Free  :popcorn:
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Re: Leatherman Free P2/P4 Club and Feedback Thread
Reply #119 on: April 24, 2019, 09:30:05 PM
In that video above at around the 36.28 mark the tools comes flying out as he's trying to butterfly open the pliers   :ahhh
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