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Black Fire multitool
on: May 15, 2019, 03:09:34 PM
Anyone owned one of these before? That pliers head and the long driver looked absolutely badass!

https://www.blackfire.com/shop/multi-tools/heavy-duty-multi-tool

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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #1 on: May 15, 2019, 03:55:31 PM
Looks awesome, Sam! But, $50 is into big-brand territory. So, like you, I would need to see some reviews and what-not to know whether it is worth it or not.
The way the handles are configured, it looks very uncomfortable to use. And the implements(knife only locks) don't lock open. And at $50, that is expected these days.
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #2 on: May 15, 2019, 04:03:42 PM
Another off-brand that looks nice? Keep them coming! :like:

It certainly looks usable, not really mind-blowing, but simple and decent.
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #3 on: May 15, 2019, 04:13:13 PM
Not bad at all. Two reversible bits.  :like:
The head reminds me of the Klein one.





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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #4 on: May 15, 2019, 04:22:55 PM
There are other sites that sells them at $40. I am so tempted by that whole pliers head and the driver. The cutter on my Klein's is amazing. I have used everything on the Klein's pliers almost everyday and probably will do so till it breaks one day. I do miss the bolt gripper though. But the wire stripper on that is very good as well.  :ahhh choices choices choices...
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #5 on: May 15, 2019, 05:17:25 PM
$40 is much more palatable  :like:
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #6 on: May 15, 2019, 06:48:06 PM
Seems this tool does what I wanted with the Klein--much the same idea (and same heavy head) but with a load-out and plier head more friendly toward the general user, not the electrician or maintenance guy.


I wonder how the plier teeth are cut. I love how aggressive the Kleins are. And the Kleins have the best cutters in the industry, hands down.
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #7 on: May 15, 2019, 07:08:09 PM
Well I just ordered one..  :facepalm: but it will be a long wait before I receive this.. Will report back for sure. It should be a huge tool like the Klein's.. We will see.. I am super sold on the pliers and the bit driver..
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #8 on: May 15, 2019, 07:09:03 PM
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #9 on: May 15, 2019, 07:31:43 PM
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #10 on: May 15, 2019, 08:25:16 PM
Quote from: Sam Lim on May 15, 2019, 07:08:09 PM
Well I just ordered one..  :facepalm: but it will be a long wait before I receive this.. Will report back for sure. It should be a huge tool like the Klein's.. We will see.. I am super sold on the pliers and the bit driver..
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #11 on: May 15, 2019, 08:37:59 PM
It does look tough & awesome. At $50 its almost the same price I recently saw the Real Avid Gun Tool Max listed at on Amazon. The Avid GTMx seems to have a lot more tools. Now at $40 that might be a good price for the BlackFire. Would like to see more reviews of it. I wish they both had pocket clips!!

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Reply #12 on: May 16, 2019, 07:44:58 PM
Searching online for "heavy duty multitool", this pops up a lot, from many different vendors. It's not as obscure as you'd think. I have high hopes for this.  :multi:
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #13 on: May 17, 2019, 04:56:44 AM
Quote from: BauerMobileToolSystems on May 15, 2019, 08:37:59 PM
It does look tough & awesome. At $50 its almost the same price I recently saw the Real Avid Gun Tool Max listed at on Amazon. The Avid GTMx seems to have a lot more tools. Now at $40 that might be a good price for the BlackFire. Would like to see more reviews of it. I wish they both had pocket clips!!
The Avid isn't a good quality tool from what I noted about my example. The whole thing is just kind of like a sweet and useful looking tool that had a lot of corners cut in the production phase. Just a few things off the top of my head:
Pliers rub in handle.
Play on the pliers head.
Bit driver has massive play.
Rod attachments threaded poorly.
Included attachments threaded off center and show visible cracking in the female threaded area.
Loads of handle play.
Tools touch when pliers are moderately squeezed, and not in a LM Wave way, but in the pliers mounts are squishy kind of way.

Bits and sheath are nice though. And I think the tool would work as advertised, but I wasn't impressed with the build quality. :(
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #14 on: May 17, 2019, 05:01:23 AM
Quote from: gerleatherberman on May 15, 2019, 08:25:16 PM
Your monetary sacrifice is much appreciated. :like: :popcorn:

 :D I had to go at a little higher price through ebay again.. The retailers selling at $40 doesn't ship out of states or accepts payment from US PayPal...
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #15 on: May 17, 2019, 07:55:25 AM
Quote from: Sam Lim on May 17, 2019, 05:01:23 AM
:D I had to go at a little higher price through ebay again.. The retailers selling at $40 doesn't ship out of states or accepts payment from US PayPal...
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #16 on: May 18, 2019, 02:31:25 AM
Quote from: gerleatherberman on May 17, 2019, 04:56:44 AM
The Avid isn't a good quality tool from what I noted about my example. The whole thing is just kind of like a sweet and useful looking tool that had a lot of corners cut in the production phase. Just a few things off the top of my head:
Pliers rub in handle.
Play on the pliers head.
Bit driver has massive play.
Rod attachments threaded poorly.
Included attachments threaded off center and show visible cracking in the female threaded area.
Loads of handle play.
Tools touch when pliers are moderately squeezed, and not in a LM Wave way, but in the pliers mounts are squishy kind of way.

Bits and sheath are nice though. And I think the tool would work as advertised, but I wasn't impressed with the build quality. :(
Yikes! Does not sound good. The reviews were good on Amazon if I remember, maybe you got a defective one. Do you have a link to your review?

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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #17 on: May 18, 2019, 04:10:53 AM
Quote from: BauerMobileToolSystems on May 18, 2019, 02:31:25 AM
Yikes! Does not sound good. The reviews were good on Amazon if I remember, maybe you got a defective one. Do you have a link to your review?
I haven't reviewed it yet, but can do that soon if you like.  :cheers:

I hope mine is a dud, but there are just so many things off about the one I bought, that I can't recommend it personally. You could always order through Amazon and return it if your example isn't up-to-snuff. :dunno:

I have handled a couple of multitools and am somewhat familiar with what makes a good tool, and the GTM doesn't check a lot of boxes for me(in a quality sense). It does look really awesome and the handles are nicely done. :)
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Reply #18 on: May 18, 2019, 11:48:55 AM
looking forward to hearing more about this one.  :popcorn:
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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #19 on: May 18, 2019, 11:24:07 PM
Quote from: gerleatherberman on May 18, 2019, 04:10:53 AM
I haven't reviewed it yet, but can do that soon if you like.  :cheers:

I hope mine is a dud, but there are just so many things off about the one I bought, that I can't recommend it personally. You could always order through Amazon and return it if your example isn't up-to-snuff. :dunno:

I have handled a couple of multitools and am somewhat familiar with what makes a good tool, and the GTM doesn't check a lot of boxes for me(in a quality sense). It does look really awesome and the handles are nicely done. :)
Darn- the features seem awesome on it if they can get it right. I checked yest it had 4 out of 5 stars on Amazon & there were some negative reviews & a pic of one with one jaw of the pliers broken off. Maybe they are working out the issues with the manufacturer. Since its made in China Maybe they should have Henstrong make it- they seem like about the best Asain Multitool manufacturer- or Ganzo. (Unless Henstrong already makes Ganzo)

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Re: Black Fire multitool
Reply #20 on: May 19, 2019, 04:52:52 AM
Good to read the reviews are good for the GTM.  :cheers:

It is worth trying one out. Amazon will pay return shipping if there is something wrong, if you buy Prime.  :)
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Reply #21 on: May 24, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
$40 gets a Leatherman Leap so...  :pok:

I can't look at these tools until they are proven worth. Weight?

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Reply #22 on: May 24, 2019, 05:26:50 PM
Anyone else thinking of making these a dedicated diagonal cutter multi tool? Those plier heads look beefy if the heat treat is good.

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Reply #23 on: May 24, 2019, 06:36:43 PM
Quote from: Happy Gilmore on May 24, 2019, 05:26:50 PM
Anyone else thinking of making these a dedicated diagonal cutter multi tool? Those plier heads look beefy if the heat treat is good.

I had a real good stare at my Klein which have a similar cutter. It's doable but I can't see the benefit of making it a dedicated diagonal cutter. Maybe I am missing something or have not encounter anything the existing setup can't do/cut. But note i also have a very capable scissor all the time at work to clean cut zipties, even wires, cables etc..  :think:
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Reply #24 on: May 24, 2019, 06:51:07 PM
Quote from: Happy Gilmore on May 24, 2019, 05:22:28 PM
$40 gets a Leatherman Leap so...  :pok:

I can't look at these tools until they are proven worth. Weight?

OK, at $40 we can get a leap, wingman, sidekick rebar, even a preowned wave and many other stuffs. All of them are very good users' tools and are time proven. Well, theres no fun if everyone sticks to the brand name tools. This particular design is pretty interesting imo, considering the Blunt nose, very large cutter and that bit driver. $40, yes I would agree that its rather high for a unknown tool, there's not even any review on it. I, shall be the guinea pig. Pretty excited, but at the same time, prepping myself for disappointment too. It's still be a long wait before I receive this...
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Reply #25 on: May 24, 2019, 08:00:48 PM
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Reply #26 on: May 24, 2019, 11:29:30 PM
   Like always, I will wait until Amazon has it. They have a real good return policy if it sucks, and I still have some Prime membership time available, so can get it fast!  >:D

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Reply #27 on: May 26, 2019, 03:09:38 AM
The Klein has their lifetime warranty, and has been $20 from Amazon for going on a year now. And quite frankly, even at the $40 it will cost you through an electrical supply house, it's a great deal.  Best pliers, cutters, driver, and in a lot of ways blade, in the industry.  Still, if the BlackFire goes on sale for around the $20 cost of the Klein, I'm getting one.

Yet this tool does not seem to be covered by any kind of warranty at all. They only mention flashlights and illumination products.

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Reply #28 on: May 26, 2019, 06:58:39 AM
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The Klein has their lifetime warranty, and has been $20 from Amazon for going on a year now. And quite frankly, even at the $40 it will cost you through an electrical supply house, it's a great deal.  Best pliers, cutters, driver, and in a lot of ways blade, in the industry.  Still, if the BlackFire goes on sale for around the $20 cost of the Klein, I'm getting one.

Yet this tool does not seem to be covered by any kind of warranty at all. They only mention flashlights and illumination products.

Totally agree with the Klein. The only thing is warranty doesn't work that way in many parts of the world.. U guys are lucky. Until recently things started getting a little bit more messy..  :whistle:
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Reply #29 on: May 28, 2019, 04:45:29 PM
   I actually just ordered one from Home Depot. I should have it by next Tuesday! I will give my first impressions of it when it arrives!  :climber: 
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