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Working on history of pliers multi tools display.

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So, does anyone have any suggestions about historically relevant MTs starting from the 1980s?

I am making a display case specifically for full-size MTs and am just trying to get an idea of the tools to display. Tools that revolve around pliers specifically. And trying to limit each brand to three(unless there aren't three models relevant). Pre-2000 if possible. Full-size and some a bit larger(fixed pliers for example).

So far these are what I am thinking about:

Leatherman PST "Large Print".
Leatherman Crunch.
Leatherman Wave(OG).
Gerber Multi-Plier V.1.
Gerber MPT.
Gerber MP600
SOG ToolClip.
SOG ParaTool.
SOG PowerPlier.
Bear and Sons 155
Victorinox SwissTool(OG)
Schrade ToughTool ST1.
Schrade ToughTool ST5E.
BuckTool 360.
BuckTool 355.
Kershaw A100.
Kutmaster MultiMaster.

I'm sure there are a bunch missing, so any help would be greatly appreciated.  :salute:
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #1 on: May 18, 2019, 03:26:38 PM
The LM OG Supertool  :think:
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #2 on: May 18, 2019, 05:22:42 PM
The LM OG Supertool  :think:
Thank you, W! :cheers:

I'm torn whether to include it or not. It is so similar to the PST, yet it is the first MT that had that form factor with locking tools. :ahhh

Well, guess the only option is to increase max number of brand examples to 4. :woohoo:
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #3 on: May 18, 2019, 05:28:12 PM
definitely need to include the OG ST  :iagree:


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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #4 on: May 18, 2019, 07:32:29 PM
Thanks, Steve!

And updated list:


Leatherman PST "Large Print".
Leatherman Crunch.
Leatherman Wave(OG).
Leatherman SuperTool(OG)
Gerber Multi-Plier V.1.
Gerber MPT.
Gerber MP600
SOG ToolClip.
SOG ParaTool.
SOG PowerPlier.
SOG PowerLock
Bear and Sons 155
Victorinox SwissTool(OG)
Schrade ToughTool ST1.
Schrade ToughTool ST5E.
BuckTool 360.
BuckTool 355.
Kershaw A100.
Kutmaster MultiMaster.
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #5 on: May 18, 2019, 09:23:37 PM
 :worthless:


 :popcorn:  I can hardly wait to see the show piece!


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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #6 on: May 18, 2019, 10:02:51 PM
Gerber MP400


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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #7 on: May 18, 2019, 10:14:44 PM
The LM OG Supertool  :think:

 :iagree:

definitely need to include the OG ST  :iagree:

 :iagree:

Gerber MP400

 :iagree:

MP600 Fisherman   :D

SOG Blacktip    :shrug:

You'll need at least one SOG with the gold TiNi finish.     8)
« Last Edit: May 18, 2019, 10:20:18 PM by David »
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #8 on: May 18, 2019, 11:12:59 PM
:worthless:

 :popcorn:  I can hardly wait to see the show piece!
They're coming soon.  :cheers:

Gerber MP400
Thank you, Steve! I like the MP400 too.  :D
But, did it add anything to the MT world that was special at the time? :think:
:iagree:

 :iagree:

 :iagree:

MP600 Fisherman   :D

SOG Blacktip    :shrug:

You'll need at least one SOG with the gold TiNi finish.     8)
Love the suggestions, David! Thank you. But, that said, I am trying to avoid getting into variants. The FPR Multi-Lock/MP600 will have to be the representative for all MP600s.  :ahhh
I'd love to put the BlackTip in there, but I'm not sure it contributed anything unique to the MT world.  :think: Maybe being huge and well made? :dunno: :D

This project may end up including some seriously rare tools, but they will be a seperate dislay. :)
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #9 on: May 19, 2019, 02:07:45 AM
Wenger Swissgrip/PocketGrip?

Spyderwrench?

Gerber Recoil?

Schrade Vise Grip LC6?


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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #10 on: May 19, 2019, 04:29:20 AM
Wenger Swissgrip/PocketGrip?

Spyderwrench?

Gerber Recoil?

Schrade Vise Grip LC6?
Thanks for suggestions, AW! :cheers:
The PocketGrip is one I'd like to add, but decent condition examples are a bit high right now. Maybe one will walk into the store I work in one day(though I doubt it).

The Schrade LC6 is a bit large, but would be a neat addition if I could find one cheap enough.  :ahhh

Spyderwrench is another one that is really pricey and would have to be bought only for the display. :ahhh

The Recoil is definitely one that should go in, and there is already one in the collection to use. Great recommendation.  :)
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #11 on: May 19, 2019, 05:23:43 AM
How bout a Skeletool.
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #12 on: May 19, 2019, 07:16:08 AM
How bout a Skeletool.
Thank you, David!  :salute:
That is definitely a game changer in MT history. Fortunately, for the sad little cabinet I've been working on all evening, it was made after 2000.  :cheers:

This was originally made for displaying golf balls, but someone made another door for it(and didn't do a very good job, but that can be fixed later) after the original door got broken(speculation here). I picked it up for $15. I'm now thinking I should have not bought it, but it's to late now. :rofl:

I am hoping the golf ball indentations in the shelves will facilitate more arduous-to-position MTs(ex. Multi-Plier). If not, I'll just chisel out the places needed. I have a bigger and better display case someone made for me, but it needs shelves. :ahhh
Another project for another day. :facepalm:

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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #13 on: May 19, 2019, 07:22:02 AM
Some thoughts for your consideration:

A couple of the older fishing MTs (one of the more common ones with fixed pliers should be pretty cheap, then there are the harder to find ones with pliers that fold in eg BONSA or ABCo). 

Maybe a LM Juice to show different styles of LM,

Currier Koeth to show swappable heads is an old concept,

Eiffel Plierench ditto,

Wichard or Kita Le Depanneur slip-joint pliers

Sheffield 12020

Paladin PT-540 (speSmurfpillst electrician/data tool)

Coleman Pro-Lock (swappable toolsets)

Outu (or other similar) full size pliers & scissors

Flip-Grips

King I-Tool & L-Tool (speSmurfpillst MTs based on a Wave-a-like body)
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #14 on: May 19, 2019, 07:36:10 AM
Didn't the Vic Swisstool come out in 1998
That's pretty significant
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #15 on: May 19, 2019, 08:45:45 AM
Didn't the Vic Swisstool come out in 1998
That's pretty significant
Indeed. It was one of the first tools I thought of(see original list).  :cheers:
While Bear and Sons developed the outboard tools form first(with Bear Jaws 155), Vic incorporated more tools and locking implements in a bit larger package. It qualifies more as intuitive, while the Bear Jaws was innovative. The SwissTool's level of improvement over Bear's design is why I feel it should be included. :)
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Reply #16 on: May 19, 2019, 08:58:13 AM
Some thoughts for your consideration:

A couple of the older fishing MTs (one of the more common ones with fixed pliers should be pretty cheap, then there are the harder to find ones with pliers that fold in eg BONSA or ABCo). 

Maybe a LM Juice to show different styles of LM,

Currier Koeth to show swappable heads is an old concept,

Eiffel Plierench ditto,

Wichard or Kita Le Depanneur slip-joint pliers

Sheffield 12020

Paladin PT-540 (speSmurfpillst electrician/data tool)

Coleman Pro-Lock (swappable toolsets)

Outu (or other similar) full size pliers & scissors

Flip-Grips

King I-Tool & L-Tool (speSmurfpillst MTs based on a Wave-a-like body)
Thank you for the comprehensive list, Greg! Thoughtful and informative as always. :salute:

I think this particular display is going to end up confined within a few factors.
1. 1980s-1990s.
2. More main-stream brands.
3. Within monetary and/or acquisition restraints.

Do you know when the Coleman ProLock and Sheffield 12020 came out, Greg? I've found little information about the release of these tools. :ahhh

A more comprehensive display can be done later on, with tools acquires when finances allow.
I'm trying to avoid going down the fishing-tool rabbit-hole, but if I stumble upon any good deals on some, that will be great.

I've got a Juice Pro(also XE6 or SX), Sheffield 12020, Coleman ProLock, and a Paladin PT-510(which would have to serve as a stand-in until its' larger sibling can join the party), an Outo, a Sheffield Flip-Grip style tool, and intend on acquiring one of the King irrigation-oriented tools at some point.
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Reply #17 on: May 19, 2019, 09:17:36 AM
I noticed the Spyderench mentioned...
What does a mint one go for these days in the US? :popcorn:


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Reply #18 on: May 19, 2019, 05:14:07 PM
Thank you for the comprehensive list, Greg! Thoughtful and informative as always. :salute:

Do you know when the Coleman ProLock and Sheffield 12020 came out, Greg? I've found little information about the release of these tools. :ahhh


No worries, glad to be of assistance.

The only date indicator I could find for the Pro Lock was this statement:  "Additional cartridges available Fall 1998" (but Coleman never did market any extra cartridges).

I have no idea when Sheffield started selling the 12020 MT.  I bought my first one in 2013.
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #19 on: May 19, 2019, 08:21:36 PM
No worries, glad to be of assistance.

The only date indicator I could find for the Pro Lock was this statement:  "Additional cartridges available Fall 1998" (but Coleman never did market any extra cartridges).

I have no idea when Sheffield started selling the 12020 MT.  I bought my first one in 2013.
:cheers:
Awesome info on the ProLock. It is definitely going in the small display. Thank you! :)

The Sheffield would look good in there too, but it looks to be a tall-order to pin down a production timeframe. :ahhh
Super cool tool though. IMO(my only major issue with it is that the handles don't snap/pop into place and just seem a bit floppy slipping the pliers joint).  :)
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Reply #20 on: May 20, 2019, 12:50:02 AM
Indeed. It was one of the first tools I thought of(see original list).  :cheers:

Oops sorry you got it covered - I should have read more carefully!
Just looked at bottom of list for V.....  :twak:


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Reply #21 on: May 20, 2019, 01:53:02 AM
Thank you, David!  :salute:
That is definitely a game changer in MT history. Fortunately, for the sad little cabinet I've been working on all evening, it was made after 2000.  :cheers:

Forgot about the pre-2000 time limit.  :D
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #22 on: May 20, 2019, 12:20:03 PM
Sorry for coming late to this discussion...I tend to be visiting mostly the watch forums these days.

I am sure you have seen this thread before in the general section titled "Multi-tool Time Line". That would be a great place to start in regards to dating things. As you well know, it isn't an exhaustive list, as it contains mostly the larger name brands. For example, the Coleman Prolock is not on that list. Likewise, I have a pair of American Campers that date to the early 90s that aren't on that list. Thus, you won't get anything exhaustive. Using this list however should give you the big highlights in regards to pre-2000 multi-tool designs etc...

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,2281.0.html
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Reply #23 on: May 20, 2019, 05:25:19 PM
Sorry for coming late to this discussion...I tend to be visiting mostly the watch forums these days.

I am sure you have seen this thread before in the general section titled "Multi-tool Time Line". That would be a great place to start in regards to dating things. As you well know, it isn't an exhaustive list, as it contains mostly the larger name brands. For example, the Coleman Prolock is not on that list. Likewise, I have a pair of American Campers that date to the early 90s that aren't on that list. Thus, you won't get anything exhaustive. Using this list however should give you the big highlights in regards to pre-2000 multi-tool designs etc...

https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,2281.0.html
Excellent resource and information, Chako! Thank you for the link! :salute:

Oops sorry you got it covered - I should have read more carefully!
Just looked at bottom of list for V.....  :twak:
The list is a mess, I know. :rofl:
 :cheers:

Forgot about the pre-2000 time limit.  :D
Hopefully the next project involves more than the 80s and 90s. :ahhh
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #24 on: May 20, 2019, 05:52:52 PM
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Reply #25 on: May 20, 2019, 08:02:16 PM
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Reply #26 on: May 20, 2019, 08:15:37 PM
An updated list so far based off what I have available at the moment. Pre-2000, innovative, standard setting, and/or radically unique.

Bear and Sons 155
BuckTool 355.
BuckTool 360.
Coleman ProLock.
Gerber MPT.
Gerber MP V.1.
Gerber MP400.
Gerber MP600.
Kershaw A100.
Kutmaster MultiMaster.
Leatherman Crunch.
Leatherman Flair.
Leatherman PST "Large Print".
Leatherman SuperTool(OG)
Leatherman Wave(OG).
Schrade ToughTool ST1.
Schrade ToughTool ST5E
SOG ParaTool.
SOG PowerLock
SOG PowerPlier.
SOG ToolClip.
Victorinox SwissTool(OG).
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Re: Working on history of pliers multi tools display.
Reply #27 on: May 20, 2019, 08:19:07 PM
Very interesting  :cheers: Can't wait to see it all put together 8) :like:

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Reply #28 on: May 20, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
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Reply #29 on: May 20, 2019, 08:39:53 PM
Should be interesting.
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