Well, looks like the answer is 120mm. I just snagged a brand new, still in the blister-pack SwissBuck Swiss Mate II for $100. 4-layer with clip-point blade, saw, openers, and Wenger pliers + inline driver.I'm already halfway considering modding it to make it perfect (replace pliers with snap shackle) and I haven't even held it in my hands yet! The more I look at the 111mm SAKS though, the more I think I'm getting one pretty soon. Though not this month. I also just bought myself a Center Drive and an Aitor knife, so tool outlays are on hold for the rest of the month. Charles.