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Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
on: June 10, 2019, 09:06:06 PM
Okay, first I promise this isn't just more of the same that's been regurgitated over and over again. At least I hope not after digging through threads and Googling  :D

I've had a Charge TTi sitting around for a while because I could never get the pliers to loosen up, even after a good amount of use. What happens is I lube and work it to loosen up, and it does, even to the point of swinging from gravity. As soon as I try to grip something with the pliers they immediately stiffen up again, as if something is wedging itself from the pressure.

I've let it soak in wd-40, blasted it out with brake cleaner, then put in some tri-flo with teflon. It always works perfectly right up until I give it a squeeze.

Has anyone ever experienced this before? Is there something that can be done?

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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #1 on: June 10, 2019, 09:08:00 PM
Something isn't right. You should send it to Leatherman under warranty .
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #2 on: June 10, 2019, 09:37:27 PM
It happen also to my wave..... I consider it normal just because if not, after some use, you would have a leatherman with big play side to side. IMHO
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #3 on: June 10, 2019, 09:43:28 PM
That doesn’t sound right  :think:
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #4 on: June 10, 2019, 09:45:13 PM
I've put quite a bit of use into it and it's pretty strange behavior. I decided to give leatherman a call for the heck of it, expecting them to say it'll loosen with use, and they told me to send it in, also thinking it wasn't normal. So I'll send it in for a repair.

Thanks for the replies, I wanted to make sure I wasn't overthinking it lol.

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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #5 on: June 10, 2019, 09:49:25 PM
Hopefully they will send you a replacement  :tu:
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #6 on: June 10, 2019, 09:53:30 PM
Yup, I sure hope so. It has sentimental value because it's signed by leatherman so I'm checking off that option on the warranty claim, so I'm hoping they'll just replace the pliers. It's quite annoying that they never loosened up properly.

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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #7 on: June 10, 2019, 09:55:31 PM
That would be a shame to lose the signature from Tim  >:(
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #8 on: June 10, 2019, 09:59:06 PM
Yeah, so I've been reluctant to send it in. I definitely want to get it working nicely though so I'll actually put it to use. I don't just want to leave such a nice tool sitting on a shelf.

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Reply #9 on: June 10, 2019, 10:05:58 PM
Tools need to be used  :tu:
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #10 on: June 11, 2019, 07:09:13 AM
Quote from: masterjuggler on June 10, 2019, 09:59:06 PM
Yeah, so I've been reluctant to send it in. I definitely want to get it working nicely though so I'll actually put it to use. I don't just want to leave such a nice tool sitting on a shelf.

That's a tough call.  I guess it boils down to whether you would choose potentially a new working tool vs a semi-working tool with the signature.  Personally, I think I would choose later, since there is just no guarantee they will send back the tool with the original signature.
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #11 on: June 11, 2019, 11:46:46 AM
They will take care of it if it is marked and they see it is signed by Tim :salute: Sorry you had to send it in but that would be a very aggravating issue to deal with  :facepalm: :D Let us know how it goes though :cheers:
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Reply #12 on: June 11, 2019, 12:41:25 PM
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #13 on: June 11, 2019, 03:03:07 PM
Thanks guys, I'll definitely post back here when I get it back.

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Reply #14 on: June 11, 2019, 05:26:52 PM
Leatherman will definitely fix you up. :tu:


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Reply #15 on: June 11, 2019, 06:03:32 PM
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Reply #16 on: June 11, 2019, 07:22:01 PM
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #17 on: July 02, 2019, 06:37:32 AM
I finally got my charge back, looks like they replaced the plier head and the knife blade for some reason. Still an S30V, so I'm not complaining lol. Doesn't look like the whole tool was replaced judging from the bits of pocket lint still inside, and the titanium scales are still signed.

The pliers are definitely better than before. Interestingly enough they exhibit the same behavior of being able to be loosened by working and twisting, then stiffening up once they grip something tight. The old pair used to swing from gravity then lock up almost entirely, so this pair is worlds better. They should free up pretty well from being worked in front of the TV with some wd-40.

I'd love to cut one of these plier heads open one day and see exactly how they're made. I just don't understand why they'd stiffen up from gripping something.

I'm any case, I have my tool back, so I'm happy. I also got an SOG powerpint for EDC which I plan to deck out with new tools and might make a thread for in its subforum. Just finished PID controlling my little kiln and can heat treat steels really consistently. I've got some 1084, 52100, and 5160 I can play around with.

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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #18 on: July 02, 2019, 07:30:52 AM
Quote from: masterjuggler on July 02, 2019, 06:37:32 AM
I finally got my charge back, looks like they replaced the plier head and the knife blade for some reason. Still an S30V, so I'm not complaining lol. Doesn't look like the whole tool was replaced judging from the bits of pocket lint still inside, and the titanium scales are still signed.

The pliers are definitely better than before. Interestingly enough they exhibit the same behavior of being able to be loosened by working and twisting, then stiffening up once they grip something tight. The old pair used to swing from gravity then lock up almost entirely, so this pair is worlds better. They should free up pretty well from being worked in front of the TV with some wd-40.

I'd love to cut one of these plier heads open one day and see exactly how they're made. I just don't understand why they'd stiffen up from gripping something.

I'm any case, I have my tool back, so I'm happy. I also got an SOG powerpint for EDC which I plan to deck out with new tools and might make a thread for in its subforum. Just finished PID controlling my little kiln and can heat treat steels really consistently. I've got some 1084, 52100, and 5160 I can play around with.
That is awesome they got it sorted for you! :like:
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #19 on: July 02, 2019, 12:18:09 PM
Nice one glad you got it back again  :like: :tu:
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #20 on: July 02, 2019, 12:19:05 PM
Glad LM sorted you out on the issue :salute: :like:
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Re: Stiff Charge TTi Pliers
Reply #21 on: July 03, 2019, 01:34:29 AM
 :cheers:  Way to go  masterjuggler, I hope you get years of use from them.


Good ol leatherman strikes  again !!!!!

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