Leatherman Signal Saw Liner Lock Issue

[in_sympathy]

Cheers So I really like my new Signal - it has way less issues than the one I initially bought This is a replacement one, but still it's not perfect - after spraying the tool with Ballistol the liner lock on the saw won't work at all. The knife is perfectly OK though and the saw surely did lock before applying the lube - trust me, I triple checked 

Below is the video example I just recoded. Anybody else experiencing similar problems? Any suggestions on fixing this?

Thanks in advance 

[SteveC]

Can you clean off the Ballistol and see if it still does it ?  Or maybe try and bend the liner lock over a bit for more positive lock. Otherwise I would return it for another if you can. It shouldn't have a problem like this .

[in_sympathy]

Can you clean off the Ballistol and see if it still does it ?  Or maybe try and bend the liner lock over a bit for more positive lock. Otherwise I would return it for another if you can. It shouldn't have a problem like this .

Seems like it's not that easy to remove the damn ballistol Nothing changes after washing with soap and warm water, so don't really know.

How exactly should I bend the lock? Is there any manual?

[in_sympathy]

Well after washing the spot with soap and hot water the issue is definitely appears less, like waaaay less, but still happens... Now I'm totally sure it's ballistol's fault 

[basilio]

I have almost the same issue with mine example, which I bought back when the Signal was first introduced.
The saw lock does engage in my model, but not like the main blade.
The liner lock is very close to the saw edge and I'm sure should I applied some oil, the saw will disengage.
Hope you could understand what I mean.
Will try to post a picture later to better explain

[Aloha]

It seems the liner lock is the fail point as it seems to disengage with little pressure.  I also wonder if the saws contact point is overly beveled so the liner lock slips?  Does that make sense? 

[in_sympathy]

First of all, thank you all for the replies, really appreciate it 

After washing the tools with soap and hot water I discovered, that the saw tends to lock a tad better, but the knife started acting up and it worked flawlessly.

Therefore I got really angry at this situation, disassembled the Signal, bent both liners way more and, after applying some blue loctite, assembled it back is it should have been done at the Leatherman factory. Just for the test I applied Ballistol again and no problem at all - works as it should now 

[in_sympathy]

I have almost the same issue with mine example, which I bought back when the Signal was first introduced.
The saw lock does engage in my model, but not like the main blade.
The liner lock is very close to the saw edge and I'm sure should I applied some oil, the saw will disengage.
Hope you could understand what I mean.
Will try to post a picture later to better explain

well It did fully engage in mine as well, but got blown out of the way as simple as I show on the video

[in_sympathy]

It seems the liner lock is the fail point as it seems to disengage with little pressure.  I also wonder if the saws contact point is overly beveled so the liner lock slips?  Does that make sense?

You are absolutely right 👍🏻 Btw I tried to install a different saw (I have a few backups) - it does have a more expressed bevel, yet it didn't solve the problem at all - only bending the liners did

[Aloha]

Happy you got it sorted out.   

[Happy Gilmore]

You are absolutely right 👍🏻 Btw I tried to install a different saw (I have a few backups) - it does have a more expressed bevel, yet it didn't solve the problem at all - only bending the liners did

Nice constructive solution! I'm with you, it shouldn't be an issue at all. I find the curve on the end of the lock mechanism of the saw to be bizarre. Why not a flatter shape to engage better.  baffling really...

[in_sympathy]

Happy you got it sorted out.   

Thanks, bud

[in_sympathy]

Nice constructive solution! I'm with you, it shouldn't be an issue at all. I find the curve on the end of the lock mechanism of the saw to be bizarre. Why not a flatter shape to engage better.  baffling really...

Exactly, it definitely has a room for improvement

[Happy Gilmore]

I feel like the golden tool on the signal is the hammer and 1/4 inch driver... I just wish they had thought of rentention so I didn't have to be clever about it. I just got the Havalon evolve coming this week to play with and maybe make into an EDC version of the signal..we see. I love this tool shape from the skeletool, style,mut, and signal

[in_sympathy]

I feel like the golden tool on the signal is the hammer and 1/4 inch driver... I just wish they had thought of rentention so I didn't have to be clever about it. I just got the Havalon evolve coming this week to play with and maybe make into an EDC version of the signal..we see. I love this tool shape from the skeletool, style,mut, and signal

Cool, mate, looking forward to your usage impressions of it

[in_sympathy]

Turns out it’s not just two Signals I tried...

[Raoul Octav]

my guess, since the file is thinner, the angle on which the file is cut has suffered some alteration in the manufacturing process. LMN shoul be made aware.

[zoidberg]

my guess, since the file is thinner, the angle on which the file is cut has suffered some alteration in the manufacturing process. LMN shoul be made aware.

Knife will pop with a spine wack too so it ain't about thick or thin.
Probably more about the liner lock thickness and also the fact it's a liner lock.
Treat folders like they will fold, boom.

[Raoul Octav]

My appologies, i spoke about the Saw.
The bottom end of all liner lock that got trough my hands have a / cut(shape) with a specific angle in order for the lock to stay put and not dissengage.
Yet on the saw, beeing thinner, the / is almost innexistent and stops on the screw to have max surface to lock on the thin saw