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Building a desktop system 611

Zombie Apprentice Posts: 13,811 Hidalgo, Castillo del Hook
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2019, 01:12:14 PM »
That's my plan ;) another reason I am not building from scratch and brand new :D I have had this sytem for almost 8 years and although it is showing it's age occasionally, it still runs very well for what I use it for :cheers: I just want to breathe a bit of new life in it for what it's worth :cheers:
Sounds reasonable.  :tu:
But if you can't find one:

$350 computer with a processor that's slightly faster than a i7 2600k.
(Alternative motherboard available with 2 extra RAM slots [so you can upgrade to 32gb easily], but you'll probably need a bigger case.)

16GB of ram.
Good quality motherboard, so it can take an awesome processor like this year's 8 core processors and a hefty video card, in the future, if needed.
The processor is the second cheapest available, and the integrated graphics are only a little short of a video card with 2gb of ram.
Nice wireless adapter included in the price.

Just add a case, power supply, monitor, mouse, etc, which you already have. :D

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[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/z9bmyX)

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [AMD Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RkJtt6/amd-ryzen-3-2200g-35ghz-quad-core-processor-yd2200c5fbbox) | $79.89 @ OutletPC
**Motherboard** | [MSI B450M GAMING PLUS Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9C97YJ/msi-b450m-gaming-plus-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b450m-gaming-plus) | $84.99 @ Amazon
**Memory** | [Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/MYH48d/corsair-memory-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15) | $79.99 @ Amazon
**Storage** | [Crucial MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ft8j4D/crucial-mx500-500gb-25-solid-state-drive-ct500mx500ssd1) | $64.99 @ Amazon
**Wireless Network Adapter** | [Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tTdqqs/gigabyte-wireless-network-card-gcwb867di) | $32.75 @ Amazon
 | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
 | **Total** | **$342.61**
 | Generated by [PCPartPicker](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2019-08-09 07:10 EDT-0400 |

EDIT: Forgot that a 500gb SSD is included! If you already have one, this is actually a $300 computer.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 01:20:19 PM by Don Pablo »

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

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Zombie Apprentice Posts: 13,811 Hidalgo, Castillo del Hook
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2019, 01:17:13 PM »
I see your pegatron motherboard has USB 1.
The one I linked has USB 3.1, so you can use very fast external drives and such with it. :cheers:

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2019, 01:33:01 PM »
I think I have usb 2.0 in the specs I have seen :think:
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2019, 01:33:52 PM »
Here is the system I have with the specs from HP themselves  :cheers:

https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c03012519/
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2019, 01:34:46 PM »
I will eventually build a new system but just fun to upgrade and see what I can get out of this old gal :D
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2019, 01:38:21 PM »
Since the system is getting older, I wonder what the biggest ssd drive I  could get for it would be :think: sata I know is an option but I also have some Pcie slots and wonder if any of those might be a better route ???

Anybody know :whistle: :D
« Last Edit: August 12, 2019, 08:27:45 PM by Poncho65 »
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 13,811 Hidalgo, Castillo del Hook
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2019, 01:43:44 PM »
I'm not sure that you can use anything besides a SATA SSD.... And said SATA SSD might be speed limited. :dunno:

The motherboard I linked has a slot for one of those tiny and superfast m.2 NVMe drive things, though.

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2019, 02:18:12 PM »
I will go with a SATA drive :salute: I was researching and SATA 3  is backwards compatible to SATA 2 :cheers: so it options my choices up a bit :like:

I know this system isn't going to be blazing fast ever again but I am from the age of dial up internet (you young whippersnappers won't know about that but the older ones know my pain) :pok: :D so I can deal with a bit of lag :rofl:
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2019, 02:20:58 PM »
Who knows though, I may kill my system with the new upgrades :oops: :facepalm: :ahhh :ahhh

Hopefully not but there is the possibility of giving it something similar to a heart attack  :ahhh :ahhh :ahhh

 :D
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 13,811 Hidalgo, Castillo del Hook
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2019, 02:24:12 PM »
I'm grateful that I never needed to use a telephone line modem...

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2019, 03:12:10 PM »
Sure kept my Solitaire game skills up whilst waiting on a web page to load  :facepalm: :rofl:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,327 Man of Multiple MultiTool Manufacturers
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2019, 03:42:06 PM »
Upgrading to the older i7 CPU, SSD, and video will not result in a sluggish PC at all. Sure, it won't be playing modern games at a billion FPS, but you will certainly notice how much faster it all runs normal multitasking/media/web usage. :)

Good job getting the larger powersupply too.  :tu:
Nothing can kill a decent PC quicker than a low output powersupply.  :facepalm:

IMO, the SSD will be the most notable improvement. SATA 2.0 is sufficient. Even early SATA blows the best PATA(what we PC-old timers used to call IDE) drives out of the water.

Does seem the old Intel vs. AMD debate is still raging though(like a SAK vs. MT debate). Back when I gave a smurf about that stuff, the Barton core named(single core) Athlon was the shizzle-fizzle for overclocking(as well as the Pentium 4 Northwood core[which I got mine to run 3GHz stable on air cooling] that I had before getting the 3.06GHz P4). Had a full acrylic tower and water cooling just to get the Barton to 3.2GHz. Had an amazing 2GB of DDR1 RAM too(what we pc-old timers used to call PC400).

Damn that's been a long time ago. :ahhh
Last two PCs I built(the AMD Phenom X4 BE and Intel Q6600) still run great after the SSD upgrades. :)

Pontificating particularly pious positions pertaining to polymorphic paraphernalia. G-Man.
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2019, 04:48:34 PM »
I am glad to hear this and I really hope that these upgrades last me for several more years :salute:

I was more in to computers back in the mid and late 90s :dd: now our smartphones are miles beyond those systems :D I would have killed for a good usb port and some flash drives back in those days :o

First computer for me was a Intel Pentium 166 with 32 mb of RAM and a 1.3 gb hdd :like: was just past the 486 days, couple my friends had 486s and one even a 386 still kicking  around :ahhh

We would deathmatch Doom over the phone lines :cheers:

Those were great times :dd: I also got my first taste of DOS on those same friends computers :salute:

« Last Edit: August 09, 2019, 04:54:47 PM by Poncho65 »
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 13,811 Hidalgo, Castillo del Hook
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2019, 04:58:11 PM »
What's DOS? (Not joking. :facepalm: )

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2019, 05:10:19 PM »
 :sa: :dwts:

Disk Operating System

Look it up, Pabs :pok:

 :D
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 10,327 Man of Multiple MultiTool Manufacturers
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2019, 07:07:16 PM »
 :like:
I actually have a small collection of 1980s portable computers. Like the Compaq Portable, Texas Instruments PPC, Kaypro, Osborne, and Commodore. Need to get those out of storage and make sure they still boot. :facepalm:

MFM drives and IRQ assigment for the win baby. :rofl:

Windows 2.03 is still my favorite.

Pontificating particularly pious positions pertaining to polymorphic paraphernalia. G-Man.
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2019, 08:19:21 PM »
Of the old Windows I think 3.11 is the best :cheers: but of the more modernish, Windows 98 and I guess Windows 10 is the best of the newest (well for me anyways :D )

If you get them out then we need to see pics of the portable computers :pok:

 :cheers:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 13,811 Hidalgo, Castillo del Hook
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2019, 08:28:26 PM »
Speaking as a '99 model human, Windows 98 is NOT modern. :D

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2019, 09:53:57 PM »
You are just a wee boy :whistle:

 :D
Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 6,573
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2019, 10:29:56 PM »
First computer for me was a Intel Pentium 166 with 32 mb of RAM and a 1.3 gb hdd :like: was just past the 486 days, couple my friends had 486s and one even a 386 still kicking  around :ahhh

We would deathmatch Doom over the phone lines :cheers:
Ha I was just thinking back to Doom when you mentioned computers of that vintage.
I just bought the 2016 reboot of Doom. I got it on disc cos I'm old skool but you still have to use Steam to download the game  :think:  and it's having trouble connecting.  :bnghd: :crash:

Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 6,573
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #50 on: August 09, 2019, 10:31:11 PM »
Windows 98 and I guess Windows 10 is the best of the newest (well for me anyways :D )
I liked Windows XP :dd:

Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #51 on: August 09, 2019, 11:14:28 PM »
Xp was one that I liked as well but I put it more with Windows 10 era and I rank it right there with 7 :salute: 8 and 2000/Me were just hot messes though :D

Windows 95 was right there with 98 to me as well :cheers:
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #52 on: August 09, 2019, 11:15:37 PM »
Ha I was just thinking back to Doom when you mentioned computers of that vintage.
I just bought the 2016 reboot of Doom. I got it on disc cos I'm old skool but you still have to use Steam to download the game  :think:  and it's having trouble connecting.  :bnghd: :crash:

Was thinking of trying the 2016 Doom with the new setup that I am going for :cheers: hope I can play it half way decent after this but who knows :ahhh

Thinking it probably won't now though :facepalm: :oops: :ahhh
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 17,809 Armed with camera and not afraid to use it.
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #53 on: August 10, 2019, 12:01:21 AM »
For a time, I was big into Amigas. I remember the horrors of trying to keep a SCSI chain alive and ticking.  :ahhh

A little Leatherman information.

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Absolutely No Life Club Posts: 6,573
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #54 on: August 10, 2019, 02:49:42 AM »
Was thinking of trying the 2016 Doom with the new setup that I am going for :cheers: hope I can play it half way decent after this but who knows :ahhh

Thinking it probably won't now though :facepalm: :oops: :ahhh

Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #55 on: August 10, 2019, 04:03:58 AM »
Graphics card will be what gets me :bnghd: :crash: :poh: :D
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #56 on: August 12, 2019, 10:46:16 PM »
I just realized that my email address is even a couple years older than Pabs :facepalm:

 :rofl:
Zombie Apprentice Posts: 13,811 Hidalgo, Castillo del Hook
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2019, 12:24:30 AM »

Hooked, like everyone else. ;)

All hail the hook!
Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2019, 01:10:14 AM »
 :dunno:

 :oops:

 :2tu:

 :rofl:

Global Moderator He Who Has The Most Nuts, Wins! Posts: 55,505
Re: Building a desktop system
« Reply #59 on: August 17, 2019, 09:52:59 PM »
Bought a few parts for my computer the past couple weeks and got the parts as reasonably as I could :cheers: I installed a new power supply, a used graphics card Geforce GT 530 and a new 500gb ssd :like:

I installed the parts this morning then reinstalled Windows on the new ssd and and so far so good :cheers: More on it later as I am leaving the house now :salute:

 

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