Sears 95212 multi tool

[CarbideCruzer]

Anyone here have any information about this Sears branded 95212 multi tool that I suppose may be considered to have a "Swiss" army design?  All this reads is Sears, the model number and USA.  While multiple companies were involved with Sears, I only know that Schrade, Kershaw, Bear and Son, Seber Tech re-branded their multi tools.





Pure speculation, yet perhaps the knife was made by Imperial?  Not sure if this scissor is missing the spring either. 

[Rapidray]

Interesting 

[CarbideCruzer]

Alloy Artifacts didn't have any information on this, so hopefully someone here may have some information on this tool.  My guess and it's just that, is this unit is either from the later part of the 1970's or early 1980's. 

[ChopperCharles]

That is 100% a Schrade DL-2 knife. It’s sized like the Victorinox SD, but has the best small size scissors of any of these mini keychain knives. It’s a backspring scissor, similar to Wenger, except the spring has its own backspring. So the scissors don’t bob when you cut, like Wenger scissors do. They’re extremely sharp and have very precise, pointy tips. These scissors blow away the Vic scissors of the same size. Between my dl2 and my minchamp, I’ll pick the DL2 every time if I need to trim my nails.

And yes, made in USA.

Charles.

[CarbideCruzer]

That is 100% a Schrade DL-2 knife. It’s sized like the Victorinox SD, but has the best small size scissors of any of these mini keychain knives. It’s a backspring scissor, similar to Wenger, except the spring has its own backspring. So the scissors don’t bob when you cut, like Wenger scissors do. They’re extremely sharp and have very precise, pointy tips. These scissors blow away the Vic scissors of the same size. Between my dl2 and my minchamp, I’ll pick the DL2 every time if I need to trim my nails.

And yes, made in USA.

Charles.

Thank you very much sir, I deeply appreciate that information.  Didn't know that Schrade used to make scissors though.  As for the back spring, I figured this unit was missing the spring as I haven't seen this design before. 

All the best.

[Rapidray]

That is some great information - thanks! 

[CarbideCruzer]

Turns out, the Schrade DL-2 is also named Captain as well.  Found some images of the original packaging of this unit that others may find useful.





This unit was veritably according to the package made in the United States of America.  Note that the handles were named "DuraLens".

Turns out I was right, either Schrade bought Imperial and or Imperial bought Schrade.

[ChopperCharles]

I thought Schrade and Imperial were synonymous. Like, I always thought Imperial was just a name for Schrade's line of knives. They also had the Schrade Century line of knives. Those were Victorinox tools assembled and finished in Germany. The Schrade DL-2 was fazed out in 1993 and replaced with the Schrade Century "Star" CN-21. There was also a CN-11 "Genesis" model, which had just the knife and file, with no scissors. Note that the second number in the CN-2X and CN-1X denotes the color of the Century knives.  1 is red, 2 is black, 5 is green, and there are white, and blue, and yellow as well, but those are more rare. No such model designation exists for the DL-2, to my knowledge.

FYI,  I EDC a Schrade Imperial IMP-22L, which is a large sodbuster, whenever my Case Sodbuster needs sharpening. I have a DL-2 on the key rings for three of my motorcycles. (The minichamp is on my car keyring). I also still have a DL-2 new in the packaging, and two with interesting branding: Texaco and Snap-On.

I have a couple of the 91mm Century Vic copies as well. They have far better tweezers than Victorinox, and the scales are different. (but interchangeable with Victorinox knives)  I have a few with branding on them as well.

Charles.

[CarbideCruzer]

Thank you for the amazing information you've provided.  From what I've gathered, until Schrade closed down their factory in 2004, most of their knives were made in USA (New York).  Yet some of the Imperial blades were USA made, while others were made in Ireland, Germany and most likely China no doubt with the economy lines long before Taylor bought the company.

Turns out with the Imperial Schrade Century Gemini CN71CP  in 1993 this unit was made in Germany, yet finished in the USA.  Such a claim does merit photographic evidence as listed below.







In case anyone is interested, I found some images of the Snap-On and Texaco red variations of the Schrade DL-2 item below.









Only the knife reads Schrade DL-2 USA, whereas the file reads Schrade.  There appears to be a + symbol as well.

[cody6268]

Given Camillus and Schrade made tons of knives for Sears Craftsman over the years, I'd be more surprised if a Sears version of the DL-2 didn't exist!  Very neat find! I didn't know this existed before.

[ChopperCharles]

There are more variants as well.

There’s a rose version, a US Senate version, and an Eagle Scout version on eBay right now. There is a black snap on version as well.

I’d post pics but I’m constantly frustrated by the 512kb limit when attempting to upload from my phone.

Charles.

[CarbideCruzer]

Apparently with the Eagle Scout variation, the scissor spring is much different and there is what appears to be a date of 2001.  Which is interesting as I thought based on what Chopper had mentioned, this was discontinued in 2001? 

First the Quality Grassing & Servicing Incorporated variant





Notice how the spring with the scissors is much different than the other Schrade DL-2 versions.






Yet this is in fact from Schrade based on the printing from Schrade. 

Also if anyone is interesting I found a source for what appears to be accurate historical data  about Schrade.  Schrade history

[ChopperCharles]

The century line started in 1993, and the dL-2 disappeared from catalogs and literature. However, some shenanigans must have been going on, because I’ve never seen a DL2 with a spring like that.

Now I’m curious about what went on with those Eagle Scout knives, and the DL2 line in general.

Also note that the knife was probably made long before the engraving took place. It appears the writing is on top of the scale, and it could have been added at any time. The DL2 has graphics under the scale, and then a highly polished clear plastic scale on top of the graphic, to give it a deep and rich 3D look. Schrade made the knife, but they didn’t print the info on it.

Charles.

[ChopperCharles]

Update. The Eagle Scout knife you’ve shown is made by schrade and is marked dl2, but identical knives with that same spring scissor were made by Cammilus. I wonder if schrade sold the tooling, and there was an interim period where cammilus used the leftover schrade blade blanks.

Charles.

[ChopperCharles]

This post: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/more-on-the-schrade-camillus-relationship.632975/

Confirms collaboration between schrade and Camillus during the time period the DL-2 was in production. Not proof of anything, but it’s a solid conjecture. 

Charles.

[CarbideCruzer]

Fantastic research, I didn't know there was any collaborations between Schrade and Camillus.  This isn't germane to Camillus, yet I did find a Schrade DL-2 that had the scales removed. 







So if another company made the scales/body, this isn't printed anywhere on the product.

Do you know the model number to the Camillus version or if there is separate model number?

[ChopperCharles]

The camillus Eagle Scout knife is model number 1995. I found a grainy pic of the original packaging.

 Charles.

[CarbideCruzer]

Thank you for that information.  Very helpful, yet I did find a Camillus 1995, yet the model number on the knife is 872.   To be clear this reads Camillus USA 872 and there is symbol on this knife blade.











Interesting that this unit has two model numbers.

[SteveC]

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[Rapidray]

Update. The Eagle Scout knife you’ve shown is made by schrade and is marked dl2, but identical knives with that same spring scissor were made by Cammilus. I wonder if schrade sold the tooling, and there was an interim period where cammilus used the leftover schrade blade blanks.

Charles.

That is a very nice Eagle Scout knife! 

[CarbideCruzer]

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You cannot visit ibb.co right now because the website uses HSTS. Network errors and attacks are usually temporary, so this page will probably work later.

That is an odd message, as I am using Brave and have not received this message. Site I am using ImgBB and this site claims the connection is secure. I'll try another image uploading service, as I certainly do want others to view these images. 

Anyway I found some more images and a much cleaner image of packaging for the Camillus 1955 packaging. 





Turns out the Camillus model number 1995 with 872 stamped on the blade has the same scissor design as the Schrade DL-2. 

There was several versions of the Camillus 872 including a Pearl version, "Marksman" branded version and one that had a "wood" finish.











I've also taken chance to archive the information about Schrade and Camillus relationship as well an cleaner image of 1995 Camillus packaging.

[Rapidray]

Nice collection! 

[CarbideCruzer]

Managed to find an image of the Schrade DL-2 Captain advertisement.  Apparently the DL-2 was from the Captain series. While the first advertisement is more challenging to see, I managed to find a second advertisement that you can see the text more clearly.





Just for good measure, I also archived this image as well.  Schrade DL-2 Captain advertisement.

Allegedly as reported on AllAboutPocketknives this was introduced in 1987, yet some claim this was discontinued in 1990.  While this advertisement might have been dated in 1986, my guess was this wasn't introduced until 1987.

[Huntsman]

Amazing info everyone especially from Chopper

The depth of knowledge never ceases to amaze me.

Sorry for the frustration over the pic size limit and thanks for persevering.

The size restriction is to limit the size of the MT.o (image) database and therefore save the site money - and also tech issues.
We do not archive images - So every year our hosting costs increase.

[ChopperCharles]

Amazing info everyone especially from Chopper

The depth of knowledge never ceases to amaze me.

Sorry for the frustration over the pic size limit and thanks for persevering.

The size restriction is to limit the size of the MT.o (image) database and therefore save the site money - and also tech issues.
We do not archive images - So every year our hosting costs increase.

I understand that, but a simple javascript image resize module would save a lot of frustration for mobile users especially. Hit post, the resize happens on the client user’s machine, and the smaller image is uploaded. On a pc I can resize easily, but on mobile I have to email it to myself and choose medium resolution, then re-download it. There is also no way to tell file sizes before uploading. So, please consider implementing something like that. There are plugins available for most forum software platforms. (I used to host cx500forum.com and tw200forum.com)

Charles.

[CarbideCruzer]

Had Chopper not mentioned the actual manufacturer (Schrade) or the model number (DL-2), let alone the fact Camillus had their variation with two model numbers, 1995 and 872, much of the information I managed to acquire likely wouldn't be posted right now.   Knowledgeable tool individuals are not as common as they used to be and finding this information has become much more challenging. 

Hopefully what I wasn't taken as hostility or seen as a vexed commentary.  Considering I am not paying for the hosting costs or a membership cost, I am merely glad to read and share information.  My personal hope is this thread with all the images and information helps others in the future.  Because this is merely a hobby for fun, I use "free" image uploading sites. 

Tool information is a hobby/interest of mine as I am sure this is the case with others.  While I do my best to be as accurate as possible, as Huntsman had said the depth of knowledge is amazing.  Gerber episodes made by a member named Chako has uncovered information I never heard of before and I deeply appreciate this. 

[Huntsman]

Thanks Chopper I'll ask the tech team (ie guy !!)

[SteveC]

I understand that, but a simple javascript image resize module would save a lot of frustration for mobile users especially. Hit post, the resize happens on the client user’s machine, and the smaller image is uploaded. On a pc I can resize easily, but on mobile I have to email it to myself and choose medium resolution, then re-download it. There is also no way to tell file sizes before uploading. So, please consider implementing something like that. There are plugins available for most forum software platforms. (I used to host cx500forum.com and tw200forum.com)

Charles.

There are some pretty slick apps for phones that will resize for you...google play store -  picture resizer


https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.simplemobilephotoresizer&hl=en_US

[CarbideCruzer]

So Chopper, what are your thoughts on the Camillus having two model numbers?  On the packaging reads 1995, whereas on the blades, the model number is 872.  Seems that spring design wasn't that common, as most have the Schrade DL-2 scissor design.

[ChopperCharles]

872 appears to be the number for the blade itself. A quick google search shows multiple knives of different configurations with the 872 blade. There’s a similar sized and scaled knife without scissors, and most interestingly a couple of money clips which are of a completely different design. 

Charles.