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Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
on: January 17, 2020, 03:02:00 AM
The Executive is wonderful but i wish it had a bottle opener  :-[
The 84mm SAK's are wonderful but I wish they still made models with scissors  :-[
I guess that's why they don't make the 1 perfect SAK so you will buy 20 of them to compensate lol  :dunno: :drink:

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #1 on: January 17, 2020, 04:11:57 AM
VERY GOOD QUESTION!!!!

As much as I love my executive, the one thing I have wished for strongly is, a combo tool in place of the orange peeler. A scaled down combo tool liken the bantam or waiter would be a great improvement.

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #2 on: January 17, 2020, 06:36:40 AM
A very good question.  74 mm is such a nice size, but the tool selection is just weak, intentionally so it seems.
I suppose it's because executives aren't supposed to actually make or fix anything, just write memos and attend meetings.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #3 on: January 17, 2020, 02:39:47 PM
Quote from: AndyTiedye on January 17, 2020, 06:36:40 AM
A very good question.  74 mm is such a nice size, but the tool selection is just weak, intentionally so it seems.
I suppose it's because executives aren't supposed to actually make or fix anything, just write memos and attend meetings.

And peel oranges, apparently. :)

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #4 on: January 17, 2020, 04:15:26 PM
As much as it is "a tool I could care less about", I wonder why not as well. Especially given how much pop in glass bottles I have bought as of late.  The Executive is a Gentleman's traditional pattern in my mind. My EKA, and a couple others in the same size and pattern do feature bottle openers, coupled with a screwdriver (in basically the same position as the pen blade). So, I guess they'd have to ditch the pen blade. And in my opinion, I wouldn't mind. If it had a decent screwdriver tip, I'd like it. The one at the end of the orange peeler is good, but not the best.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #5 on: January 17, 2020, 05:04:37 PM
Got that covered. :D

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #6 on: January 17, 2020, 05:14:04 PM
Quote from: crackout on January 17, 2020, 05:04:37 PM
Got that covered. :D

Those Wenger 65mm tools in a 74mm Victorinox frame are just lovely! I'm wondering, how much modification to the tools themselves was needed?
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #7 on: January 17, 2020, 11:01:04 PM
They have one guy at Ibach that only carries 74mm's.   Rumor has it he can only handle about 3/4 of a beer and then he passes out.   It was an HR decision...
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #8 on: January 17, 2020, 11:09:30 PM
Quote from: AndyTiedye on January 17, 2020, 06:36:40 AM
A very good question.  74 mm is such a nice size, but the tool selection is just weak, intentionally so it seems.
I suppose it's because executives aren't supposed to actually make or fix anything, just write memos and attend meetings.

And even then the Executive doesn't have a pen. :think:
I'd like 74mm models with pen scales.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #9 on: January 19, 2020, 11:47:10 AM
Quote from: cody6268 on January 17, 2020, 05:14:04 PM
Those Wenger 65mm tools in a 74mm Victorinox frame are just lovely! I'm wondering, how much modification to the tools themselves was needed?

There was no modification needed.
I just added a thin washer on one side.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #10 on: January 19, 2020, 03:50:56 PM
I too, would like to see just about anything on a 74mm, aside from what it currently has.

I've used the bottle opener on a LM micra for its intended purpose.  It works fine, but with much trepidation.  I'd worry that a similarly sized bottle opener on a 74mm SAK would be similar... just a backup. 

All this talk of the Executive as of late has got me thinking.  To me, the Executive is on the wrong side of the necessary/unnecessary implement ratio.

The trouble is... I don't know what I'd replace them with  :dunno:  I can't, for the life of me, think of what I would want on a 74mm form factor.

The file and the orange peeler just have to go. 
I think a combo tool of a bottle opener and Philips driver would make the most sense, despite previous comment. 
Perhaps a flat driver, with a file, again.., despite previous comment.

That silly cuticle pusher on the MiniChamp... let's call it a pharmacist spatula... I wonder if that could come in handy.  Some traditional knives have it, so its probably useful.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #11 on: January 19, 2020, 07:22:57 PM
I have used the bottle opener on the 58mm series many times, it works.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #12 on: January 20, 2020, 03:29:24 AM
Quote from: ElevenBlade on January 19, 2020, 03:50:56 PM
I too, would like to see just about anything on a 74mm, aside from what it currently has.

I've used the bottle opener on a LM micra for its intended purpose.  It works fine, but with much trepidation.  I'd worry that a similarly sized bottle opener on a 74mm SAK would be similar... just a backup. 

All this talk of the Executive as of late has got me thinking.  To me, the Executive is on the wrong side of the necessary/unnecessary implement ratio.

The trouble is... I don't know what I'd replace them with  :dunno:  I can't, for the life of me, think of what I would want on a 74mm form factor.

The file and the orange peeler just have to go. 
I think a combo tool of a bottle opener and Philips driver would make the most sense, despite previous comment. 
Perhaps a flat driver, with a file, again.., despite previous comment.

That silly cuticle pusher on the MiniChamp... let's call it a pharmacist spatula... I wonder if that could come in handy.  Some traditional knives have it, so its probably useful.

I think I just described the Rambler. 

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #13 on: January 20, 2020, 04:20:50 AM
PROBLEM SOLVED! Just added my KnifeGuys Brewbead to my lanyard.  :drink:

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #14 on: January 20, 2020, 06:19:55 AM
 
Quote from: TXSAK on January 20, 2020, 04:20:50 AM
PROBLEM SOLVED! Just added my KnifeGuys Brewbead to my lanyard.  :drink:(Image removed from quote.)
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #15 on: January 20, 2020, 11:46:20 AM
Because there's no need for a bottle opener for gentlemen. They drink wine instead.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #16 on: January 20, 2020, 01:53:28 PM
Quote from: TXSAK on January 20, 2020, 04:20:50 AM
PROBLEM SOLVED! Just added my KnifeGuys Brewbead to my lanyard.  :drink:(Image removed from quote.)
A bottle cap opener - now that is kinda neat!  :tu:
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #17 on: January 20, 2020, 02:27:35 PM
Quote from: ElevenBlade on January 19, 2020, 03:50:56 PM
I too, would like to see just about anything on a 74mm, aside from what it currently has.

I've used the bottle opener on a LM micra for its intended purpose.  It works fine, but with much trepidation.  I'd worry that a similarly sized bottle opener on a 74mm SAK would be similar... just a backup. 

All this talk of the Executive as of late has got me thinking.  To me, the Executive is on the wrong side of the necessary/unnecessary implement ratio.

The trouble is... I don't know what I'd replace them with  :dunno:  I can't, for the life of me, think of what I would want on a 74mm form factor.

The file and the orange peeler just have to go. 
I think a combo tool of a bottle opener and Philips driver would make the most sense, despite previous comment. 
Perhaps a flat driver, with a file, again.., despite previous comment.

That silly cuticle pusher on the MiniChamp... let's call it a pharmacist spatula... I wonder if that could come in handy.  Some traditional knives have it, so its probably useful.

I use the cuticle pusher as a light-duty pry tool and as a knife pick. My Opinel got stiff from disuse and humidity, and had to use the cuticle pusher to get it open. The fingernail curve to it really helps.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #18 on: January 20, 2020, 03:14:15 PM
Quote from: cody6268 on January 20, 2020, 02:27:35 PM
I use the cuticle pusher as a light-duty pry tool and as a knife pick. My Opinel got stiff from disuse and humidity, and had to use the cuticle pusher to get it open. The fingernail curve to it really helps.

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #19 on: January 23, 2020, 11:10:49 PM
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Quote from: ulzhan on January 20, 2020, 11:46:20 AM
Because there's no need for a bottle opener for gentlemen. They drink wine instead.

I stopped drinking grape juice when I was young  ;)

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #20 on: January 24, 2020, 12:43:08 AM
Quote from: ulzhan on January 20, 2020, 11:46:20 AM
Because there's no need for a bottle opener for gentlemen. They drink wine instead.
No corkscrew on the Executive... Guess gentleman drink water?  ;)

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #21 on: January 24, 2020, 12:57:38 AM
Quote from: TXSAK on January 24, 2020, 12:43:08 AM
No corkscrew on the Executive... Guess gentleman drink water?  ;)

with orange... peel?
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #22 on: January 24, 2020, 02:26:39 AM
Quote from: ElevenBlade on January 24, 2020, 12:57:38 AM
with orange... peel?
Yes I guess they drink an Old Fashioned!  :hatsoff:

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #23 on: January 24, 2020, 02:28:21 AM
Quote from: TXSAK on January 24, 2020, 12:43:08 AM
No corkscrew on the Executive... Guess gentleman drink water?  ;)

Scotch, bourbon, have twist off caps.

When executives go for that bottle in the desk drawer to celebrate a closed deal, its usually a nice single malt scotch. Unless they are Texas oilmen, then its a good high end bourbon.  :cheers:
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #24 on: January 24, 2020, 02:37:12 AM
Quote from: TXSAK on January 24, 2020, 02:26:39 AM
Yes I guess they drink an Old Fashioned!  :hatsoff:

 :cheers: :hatsoff:
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #25 on: January 24, 2020, 12:22:02 PM
Ok, we have a week old thread on 74mm SAKs and still no post from Reinier? :ahhh Someone send a search party. :ahhh

:D

As for the orange peeler, it's actually a great tool and I'd miss it if it was gone. Mainly as a scraper and most importantly, clamb shell package opener, it rocks at that task and saves your main blades. I just wish Vic would ahve added the bottle opener to the middle of it where the belly is, one similar to the wenger one, there's enough space for it I think. :think:
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #26 on: January 24, 2020, 11:31:16 PM
Corkscrew on an Executive or scissors on a Waiter...

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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #27 on: January 25, 2020, 12:43:44 AM
Quote from: JK on January 24, 2020, 11:31:16 PM
Corkscrew on an Executive or scissors on a Waiter...

Waiter + scissors = Compact   :think:
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #28 on: January 25, 2020, 09:00:10 AM
Quote from: enki_ck on January 24, 2020, 12:22:02 PM
Ok, we have a week old thread on 74mm SAKs and still no post from Reinier? :ahhh Someone send a search party. :ahhh

:D

Reminds me of this: https://forum.multitool.org/index.php/topic,5287.msg273352.html#msg273352
You should seriously visit vicfan.com. All the hoopy froods are doing it.
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Re: Why no 74mm with a bottle opener?
Reply #29 on: January 25, 2020, 10:58:56 AM
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Quote from: ElevenBlade on January 25, 2020, 12:43:44 AM
Waiter + scissors = Compact   :think:

But that gets you to 91mm...

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