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Anyone on 3D printing?
on: January 26, 2020, 09:35:12 PM
Does anyone know anything on 3D printing and maybe how to get something done? I’ve found all sorts of plastic tools cheap but it’s not what I’m after, then I found something that is almost perfect but it’s steel, and for what I need it for I’d want a plastic of some sort, I just don’t know the first thing of this stuff, I’m old school, just take the piece of paper, open the top of the printer, line it up, close the lid, and hit print..

What I’m looking to make is a tool for my hobby, I do models, no not the ones where you take the pieces and glue each one to another, (don’t get me wrong ain’t nothing wrong with them :D ) I just suck at painting, the ones I do are metal and they come 2D, you have to shape them in order to connect them and form the 3D model, a lot of mind control, helps with my disability, yet the best part is you don’t paint them.. any way I’m after something to help with the curves and bends. Like I said I found something just would like it in a plastic and modified??
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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #1 on: January 26, 2020, 09:42:27 PM
Is there a makers group of some sort near you? Or a public library with a 3D printer? (Our library got one a few months ago)
You just need to find whats called an ".stl" file for the thing you want to make on a website like this:
https://www.thingiverse.com/

Is there a picture of your part anyway? It might help.
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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #2 on: January 26, 2020, 09:51:57 PM
There’s nothing around here that I know of,
The item I found is a unique auto body tool for working out shapes, thus the weight that I don’t need, here’s a pic of it, what I would want to do is first change the hammer head to a ball peen for the curves, and then that lower one rather then more flat more curve..
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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #3 on: January 26, 2020, 09:56:44 PM
If it's got a name, your best bet is to hit up the websites where the 3D print files are, and see if anyone's designed one...
Depending on how strong it has to be, the design may need modification for extra strength.
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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #4 on: January 26, 2020, 09:58:37 PM
Search Thingiverse or Yeggi.


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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #5 on: January 26, 2020, 10:05:13 PM
It’s called a small multi dolly, a few company’s make them, I don’t need it that strong it’s going to be bending very very paper thin metal that I do with my fingers, if bent too many times it breaks,
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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #6 on: January 26, 2020, 10:05:49 PM
Maybe you could make something out of wood ?


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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #7 on: January 26, 2020, 10:13:09 PM
Maybe you could make something out of wood ?
That was an idea, as to carve it, get it close and then sand it to perfection,
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Reply #8 on: January 26, 2020, 11:26:08 PM
A 3D printer can certainly do that. How strong it becomes depends on your chosen material and how much and what kind of infill you have. (Or just go massive?)

There are many online services that will send you a nice 3D print in your chosen material (various metals choices included) if you can send them a 3D model in a format they accept. Which is where I think this is headed - if you can you make a 3D model of what you want then you can just order it? (Say from i.materialize or Shapeways or whatever the cool kids use these days).

Edit: Looking at that model it can pretty much be described by a simple 2D profile from the side. If you make drawing with some angles and measurements I'll give it 5 minutes and turn into a 3d for you. (Any lacking measurements and I'll just have to guess - you likely don't want that  :D )
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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #9 on: January 26, 2020, 11:48:15 PM
I'm learning to be proficient with certain CAD software, but I haven't yet gotten to the bit where I learn how to make models in a format that 3d printers can read... :oops:
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Reply #10 on: January 26, 2020, 11:53:01 PM
I'm learning to be proficient with certain CAD software, but I haven't yet gotten to the bit where I learn how to make models in a format that 3d printers can read... :oops:

STL files are accepted by pretty much all slicing software. Just export or save as STL with some suitably detailed setting.
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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #11 on: January 27, 2020, 12:01:04 AM
A 3D printer can certainly do that. How strong it becomes depends on your chosen material and how much and what kind of infill you have. (Or just go massive?)

There are many online services that will send you a nice 3D print in your chosen material (various metals choices included) if you can send them a 3D model in a format they accept. Which is where I think this is headed - if you can you make a 3D model of what you want then you can just order it? (Say from i.materialize or Shapeways or whatever the cool kids use these days).

Edit: Looking at that model it can pretty much be described by a simple 2D profile from the side. If you make drawing with some angles and measurements I'll give it 5 minutes and turn into a 3d for you. (Any lacking measurements and I'll just have to guess - you likely don't want that  :D )
I don’t have any of my drafting equipment, I can attempt something?
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Reply #12 on: January 27, 2020, 12:18:01 AM
I don’t have any of my drafting equipment, I can attempt something?
JR

Napkin sketch? Photo or scan? Angle of that awl dolly, size of that ball, width and profile of that bottom thing, size of the finger hole - the key measurements should take it quite close.
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Re: Anyone on 3D printing?
Reply #13 on: January 27, 2020, 12:22:04 AM
Napkin sketch? Photo or scan? Angle of that awl dolly, size of that ball, width and profile of that bottom thing, size of the finger hole - the key measurements should take it quite close.
What do you need the measurements in? Inch, mm? I can try something,
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Reply #14 on: January 27, 2020, 12:28:56 AM
What do you need the measurements in? Inch, mm? I can try something,
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I prefer mm, but it doesn't really matter.
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Reply #15 on: January 27, 2020, 01:10:16 AM
How’s this for pretty much freehand?
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Reply #16 on: January 27, 2020, 01:15:14 AM
Fair enough  :D

I might thicken the ring and the backside of the thin end of that curved part - just to help reinforce the plastic a bit.

How big is that finger hole?
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Reply #17 on: January 27, 2020, 01:46:21 AM
About 25mm? Guess I missed that my bad..
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Reply #18 on: January 27, 2020, 01:48:22 AM
Ok, so these are the parts - the awl dolly and the ball is per measurement, the finger hole is 30mm, and the base is 40mm wide with a slowly variable curved bottom. (Ie not a fixed diameter but smoothly changing along the length).

If that looks okish I'll sew them together.
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Reply #19 on: January 27, 2020, 01:50:55 AM
Oh WOW, that’s amazing
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Reply #20 on: January 27, 2020, 01:53:26 AM
So it looks ok? The time for any changes is now.. (Sewing them together will likely be a bit of a mess to change afterwards).
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Reply #21 on: January 27, 2020, 02:01:28 AM
That looks beautiful, the only thing I would even change is the bottom dolly, the bottom edge, one side flat like shown but then the other with a curve,
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Reply #22 on: January 27, 2020, 02:17:07 AM
Not sure I understand what you mean? The entire thing seems to be curving on the underside? Maybe the front edge should curve? (See attachment). Or the back towards the ring should be flat? (Your drawing seemed curved everywhere on that part).
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Reply #23 on: January 27, 2020, 02:33:00 AM
The side of it, the more curves on it the better,
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Reply #24 on: January 27, 2020, 02:44:56 AM
Or even curved the corner, and then a half ball?
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Reply #25 on: January 27, 2020, 03:07:41 AM
Well, I've sewn them together. Those changes is just on the lower part though so I can add a few such thingies.

The STL file will be a few MB though. You have an email or anywhere for me where to drop it?
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Reply #26 on: January 27, 2020, 03:17:18 AM
Wow that’s freaking amazing! Yeah I’ll pm you, thank you so much,
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Reply #27 on: January 27, 2020, 03:19:28 AM
With some of your latest suggestions - if I'd know earlier I could have made it smoother still. Anyway, I'm off to bed. I'll check your PM.
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Reply #28 on: January 27, 2020, 03:21:19 AM
Oh sweet, that nice!
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Reply #29 on: January 27, 2020, 04:30:58 AM
Here a pic of that program,
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As I sit on my Crapper Throne in the Reading Room and explode on the Commode, thinking, how my flush beat John’s and Jerry’s pair? Jack’s had to run for the Water Closet yet ended up tripping on a Can bowing and hitting his Head on the Porcelain God! 🚽


 

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