thanks again... im still on the fence about it... i did see this while i was walking around target today http://www.target.com/Eddie-Bauer-Outdoor-Multi-Tool/dp/B0007LSDR4/sr=1-13/qid=1232385359/ref=sr_1_13/182-6629839-2037723?ie=UTF8&index=target&field-browse=1038576&rh=k%3Aeddie%20bauer%2Cn%3A1038604%2Cp%5F36%3A%240-%2424&page=1it seemed eddie bauer got a look-a-like for the cyber tool lite... the reviews say enough though!