Gerber dual force

Juan el Boricua · **Reply #120 on:** February 26, 2023, 02:48:02 PM

The Dual Force is now available in black oxide for those interested: [ You are not allowed to view this attachment ]

Dtrain · **Reply #121 on:** April 16, 2023, 03:03:02 PM

Black is Neat but bieng a Truck Driver...Shiny is better if I drop it in the Muck and Mud

colt 1911 · **Reply #122 on:** April 16, 2023, 08:52:59 PM

Quote from: ChopperCharles on January 18, 2023, 12:41:08 AM

I really do like this tool. When I have tasks that require the super heavy duty bulkiness it performs admirably. However as a day-to-day tool it's overly heavy and... I miss the one-hand opening pliers way more than I thought I would. It's why I would never really seriously carry a leatherman long term. As much as I like the feel of the surge and wave, I need pliers far more often than I need blades. I like Gerbers and SOGs because they can be opened with the flick of a wrist, and closed just as easily.

When it comes to heavy-duty tasks though, nothing quite works like this. I'm impressed.

Charles.

Try the leatherman p2 or p4 they are one hand open. I’m with you I like pliers that open one handed

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Chako · **Reply #123 on:** May 24, 2023, 03:26:15 AM

After having a hard time getting Canadian Tire to order me one, I now find them hanging on one of their display walls ready for sale. I had to get another one.

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20230220_175503A by Chako, on Flickr

SteveC · **Reply #124 on:** August 29, 2023, 05:46:50 AM

I have a BO on the way bought from Gerbers Half price end of summer sale

Juan el Boricua · **Reply #125 on:** August 29, 2023, 01:06:17 PM

Congrats pal; be sure to post pictures when it arrives!

Alan K. · **Reply #126 on:** August 29, 2023, 11:39:40 PM

Quote from: SteveC on August 29, 2023, 05:46:50 AM

I have a BO on the way bought from Gerbers Half price end of summer sale

Thanks to Steve, I now have one on the way too, but I went with the two tone version.

Barry Rowland · **Reply #127 on:** August 29, 2023, 11:49:57 PM

I'm really interested in this tool. Those pliers look like they can grip!

Alan K. · **Reply #128 on:** August 30, 2023, 12:49:11 AM

Barry, I've been thinking the same thing since these came out but I didn't want to buy another tool over $100 just for giggles. 50% off for the end of summer sale (with free shipping too) just made it too good to pass up and I wouldn't even have known about the sale if Steve hadn't mentioned it.

Poncho65 · **Reply #129 on:** August 31, 2023, 03:24:34 AM

Well, mine arrived today

I got the BO version

I got it in the sale as well

I have been wanting one of these since they came out and it just never worked out but I am glad that it didn't now

SteveC · **Reply #130 on:** August 31, 2023, 03:34:30 AM

I'm still waiting on shipping confirmation. Did you get anything?

Poncho65 · **Reply #131 on:** August 31, 2023, 04:02:40 AM

It just showed up

I wasn't expecting it until at least Saturday

No kind of confirmation at all, except an email to say the order went through

Poncho65 · **Reply #132 on:** August 31, 2023, 04:02:49 AM

Barry Rowland · **Reply #133 on:** August 31, 2023, 04:15:13 PM

Looking good!!

Poncho65 · **Reply #134 on:** August 31, 2023, 04:18:35 PM

Thanks Barry

Alan K. · **Reply #135 on:** September 01, 2023, 02:07:23 AM

If the pictures on Gerber's site had been as good as yours, Poncho, I might have gone with the black oxide myself.

BPRoberts · **Reply #136 on:** September 01, 2023, 03:38:57 PM

My BO arrived yesterday (even though I put on deodorant). No use yet, but it's not as unwieldy as I expected. It's actually a smidge shorter than the Center Drive, and while it's heaver, it's "boxy" in a way that makes it feel ok. It'll probably come live in the camper, where I wanted a broader pair of pliers anyway. I did notice a fatal flaw, however. It's a multitool WITHOUT A BOTTLE OPENER!

SteveC · **Reply #137 on:** September 01, 2023, 05:42:30 PM

Mine is Out for Delivery

Alan K. · **Reply #138 on:** September 01, 2023, 08:10:32 PM

Just got the notification that mine has shipped.

SteveC · **Reply #139 on:** September 01, 2023, 09:32:46 PM

Just got mine and first impressions. First the good , lockup on the tools is solid. The screwdriver is pretty nice and so is the knife . Nice even grinds and sharp. The Saw is pretty thick and reminds me of the tooth design on SOG's tools. Leatherman's design is much better. Now the Bad, the file is worthless. I don't think it will even remove material on soft wood on the fine side. The teeth are unevenly stamped into the file and are almost nonexistent on the fine side. The rough side is marginally better. The chisel tip is good though. Next the pliers, they are very loose and the handles have a bit of play.

It's too bad about the file and maybe I got a bad one. I'm curious what other people's impression of the file is ?

powernoodle · **Reply #140 on:** September 01, 2023, 11:39:23 PM

I ordered one from the sale on the website, sir, and will report back in due course. Btw, the Dual Force went from 50% off to 40% off today - after I ordered.

I recall one Youtube reviewer - I cannot recall which one - who gave the Dual Force some longer term, harder usage. He found that the teeth on the plier seemed softish, and rounded over with time making it less grippy. Something to watch for. Of course, I'm not a diesel mechanic so none of my MTs really receive hard use.

But I am happy to be getting one and look forward to it.

Fine looking pics, Commander Poncho. I went with the other coloration, but they both look pretty dang good.

Poncho65 · **Reply #141 on:** September 04, 2023, 04:25:41 PM

Thanks Alan and powernoodle

I had also noticed that the tool went from 50% to 40% off now

still a great deal but glad I got mine when I did

Steve, I had mostly been focusing on the pliers (sad to hear they may be a softer metal pn

) but since you said that about the file, I checked mine

The single cut side is fine and seems like it will work as it should

but the double cut side (having the pattern cut in fine

) is not aggressive at all $:-\$ it doesn't seem like it would cut much

I did try it on my fingernails and it did work on those, so maybe soft material on mine but the pattern is very shallow as you said

I do also agree about the saw, seems like a SOG or Bear and Son's file instead of a Gerber

but SOGs saws are thinner and the Bear and Son is as thick but has more aggressive teeth

so perhaps a mix of both

Poncho65 · **Reply #142 on:** September 04, 2023, 04:32:28 PM

A few close ups I had already made of the plier head

mfarkas · **Reply #143 on:** September 05, 2023, 02:30:21 PM

I got my dual force last week. Quick impression, I like it, but I'm not in love with it. I have not used it for any task yet. & The file does not inspire confidence in me.

Alan K. · **Reply #144 on:** September 06, 2023, 09:56:30 PM

Just in!

powernoodle · **Reply #145 on:** September 07, 2023, 07:44:41 PM

Initial impressions -

She's a big girl, who never missed a meal. Build quality is standard Gerber, which means Chinese flavor that is passable - in line with current SOG production - but far below Leatherman and light years below Victorinox. Still, Gerber MTs have always worked for me over the years and I have no complaint in that regard.

The teeth on the plier seem slickish to the touch, but I have not cranked down on anything yet. I suspect that they are adequately grippy, but not like a pit bull on a squishy toy. When using the plier, the handles swing back and forth freely. I like this, as you don't have to push the handles apart with your fingers.

The in-line driver is pretty cool, and looks like a more ergonomic experience than what you will find from any other maker. While the slip jaw plier is supposed to be the star of the show, for me its the center-drive screwdriver. It is truly innovative, though it does add bulk to the MT when stowed away. It has a tiny raised portion that provides friction retention with the frame in the closed position.

The main blade seems pretty sharp. As I test it for flex or lateral movement, the whole MT creaks and bends just a little, like the deck of a pirate ship on rough seas.

The saw is thick and stout, with sharp teeth that cut on the draw.

The file is also beefy, with a broad, sharp chisel. The cross-cut side I give about a 4/10 for bite, and the single cut side gets a 0/10. It leaves my thumb nail unmolested, and is not really a file at all. It is beyond my understanding how Gerber can design something like this when they know full well it doesn't work. [Same with current SOGs. I had one SOG with an absolutely smooth "file"]. Detention with Professor Snape for that one, Gerber.

The fold-out bit holders are a little hokey, and I would be fine if they weren't there. The 3/16" flat bit is a little too small, IMO, though the magnetic retention is nice. It comes with #1 and #2 phillips.

The sheath is about a 5/10, also Chinese made. Not the quality of a similar Leatherman sheath. It is passable, and looks like it might last several months for a workin' man. The Dual Force in its sheath may be too big and heavy for most folks to carry daily.

Now all of this is just me sitting here playing with it, without using it to tear down a jet engine or cut my way through Fangorn Forest. Given everything, I'm good with the 50% off on Gerber's website making it $55. That's about right for the Dual Force. Had I paid $99.99 on Amazon Prime, or the MSRP of $109.99, I would feel that Gerber picked my pocket just a little. But as somewhat of a Gerber fanboy despite its deficiencies, I'm happy to add this one to the arsenal.

Alan K. · **Reply #146 on:** September 07, 2023, 11:41:16 PM

I'm wearing my Dual-Force and I don't like the sheath. In typical Gerber fashion they made the sheath so it can be worn vertical or horizontal but in so doing they made it so that it rides higher than it would if it was just for vertical carry. Therefore, the top of the sheath is poking me in my back fat when I sit down. If the horizontal loops weren't there the sheath could sit about an inch lower and wouldn't be poking and rubbing on my back fat. Don't want to try horizontal carry as it would take up too much real estate on my belt. Also, I tried the saw on a palm frond and it had a hard time cutting. Might work better after some of the coating wears off.

SteveC · **Reply #147 on:** September 08, 2023, 12:52:48 AM

I just sent them an email inquiring about a return for mine. I use a file a lot and I'm pretty disgusted by the quality of it. I'm also not impressed with the overall tool design. I'm not sure it would hold up to hard use .